general hayden led the briefing. >> mike hayden is particularly good at coming in and explaining things in a way that, shall we say, neophytes in the business could understand it. and you really wanted to believe what mike had to say and absorb it and digest it rather than question it. >> he has very facile command of the facts. he's also very good at eliding past the parts that he doesn't think you want to hear, and using very careful language to avoid saying things he doesn't want to say while also avoiding any outright falsehood. >> our purpose in this was to get the other political branch involved in this program. and so we would be defeating our own purposes, working against our own goals, if we weren't full monty to these folks. >> narrator: but as open as hayden says he was, he and the vice president's office created strict conditions for the briefing. >> you have the individual senator or member of congress who is brought in and read into a program. they're not allowed to bring any staff with them. they're not necessarily allowed to communicate any of what they've heard to their

that he was calling him, but also that he got hayden on the line. >> i read him, like, two paragraphs of the draft of the story. >> "months after the september 11 attacks, president bush secretly authorized the national security agency to eavesdrop on americans and others..." >> and you could hear, like, a sharp intake of breath, like... (gasps) you know, it was almost like he was... he didn't want to say it, but he was like, "i can't believe you got that story." >> i think this is a very bad thing. there is a reason we keep intelligence sources and methods secret. it's the same reason journalists try to keep their sources and methods secret. you know, you can't survive unless you keep them secret. >> i'd caught him off guard, and he had started to confirm it, and then realized what he was doing, and hung up. >> narrator: hayden sounded the alarm: the new york times was preparing to expose the existence of "the program" in

advisors: condoleezza rice, general hayden, alberto gonzales and others, who insisted to keller that revealing the existence of the program would endanger national security. >> i had a consensus of everybody that we had contact with in the administration that this would be an extremely dangerous thing to do. these were serious people, a consensus across the board of those who talked to us that it was going to be dangerous, a level of stridency that was quite impressive. and after much discussion, decided that we weren't ready to go with it. >> narrator: keller spiked the story. the white house had prevailed. the program would remain a well-kept secret. >> the president has ordered a major shake-up of america's spy operations... >> the nuts and bolts of intelligence will fall to lieutenant general michael hayden, who now heads up the once super secret...

system of liberties to protect ourselves from, and hayden keep -- general hayden keeps asking for facts in 2009, the global new york service characterized the threat of terrorism this way, quote, undoubtedly more american citizens died overseas from traffic accidents or intel until illnesses than terrorism. harvard, march 2011, the number of americans who died in terrorist attacks last year, eight. the minimum number two died after being struck by lightning, 29. terrorism is a role threat. it is not anything to make light of. but there are all sorts of threats that we guard against and keep ourselves safe from, not by dismantling our fundmental liberty like the right to privacy and the limitation on the government's ability know what we're saying but by balancing them and affirming the values we're trying to protect in the first place. thank you. [applause]

general hayden, let me ask you. you were there at september 11. if these programs were in place back then, what we have now, could you have stopped that attack? could you prevented it from happening? i think it's a big litmus test on a lot of people's minds. >> first albany borne out, and i appreciate the question on terrorism. this isn't just about terrorism. this is about legitimate activity on the part of free people to keep themselves safe every. terrorism is big deal but we do this for lots of good legitimate reasons. to answer your question, if this program committee we talk about the metadata program which is about terrorism because the only reason you couldn' could use the metadata is to stop terrorism. no other purpose. if we had this in place we would've known two of them also guys on the pentagon flight, the plane that hit the pentagon, the american airplane, we would've detected they were in san diego. they have gone from meeting and kuala lumpur. nsa actually intercepted their phone calls from san diego where they were staying back to

wondered, "would general hayden go out on a legal limb and continue the program?" >> david addington calls me and says, "are you willing to do this without the signature of the attorney general? with the signature of white house counsel al gonzales and authorization from the president?" and i thought and i said, "yes." >> narrator: hayden and gonzales say their willingness was informed by something that happened just before the addington call. (explosions) >> in madrid this morning, more than 190 people were killed... >> after at least ten simultaneous bomb blasts... >> narrator: it was one of the worst terrorist attacks since september 11. >> series of bomb attacks at three train stations during... >> given that starkness of the al qaeda threat and given the ambiguity of the situation, i thought the correct operational, legal and ethical decision was, "all right, we'll do this one more time on a somewhat different framework." >> so that was a point where he

general, ladies and gentlemen, michael hayden. [applause] now one great team of debaters deserves another and we have not let you down tonight. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, serial technology entrepreneur, the cofounder of the global social news phenomenon reddit, and best-selling author alexis ohanian. alexis. [applause] alexis' partner is a person who has been at the very center of this global debate since edward snowden stunned the world last june with his unprecedented leak, his exposure of america's most intimate cyberespionage programs. in the ensuing year our presenter has become in the word of the financial times of london, the most famous journalist of his generation, ladies and gentlemen, first look media's glenn greenwald. [applause] >> okay. before we call on our debaters for their opening statements i need the help of everyone in this hall and those watching at home, with three simple tasks. first, don't often say this and a gracious concert all like this, power up your smart phones. we have a open wi-fi netwo

>> narrator: now general hayden wanted the sign-off of his top lawyer, robert deitz. >> i think he was concerned and wanted my view of whether this program was lawful. i spent a kind of sleepless night pondering the legality of it. this was a very hard call. it was a very hard call. >> the nsa has a general counsel and about 100 lawyers. and they were told, "the president has signed it, it's been certified as lawful, and once all the signatures are there, that's it, we salute. we say, 'okay, it's lawful, we're going to go ahead.'" >> in the intel world, if a president says to you, "i need this in order to keep the american people safe," you need to try to figure out where that line is constitutionally and march right up to it. >> narrator: two other nsa lawyers would also sign off

. >> narrator: general hayden was sent to the secret fisa court to convince a judge to restart it. >> could we get a court order

. >> narrator: but the white house wondered, "would general hayden go out on a legal limb and

iq so much for coming in, general hayden. -- thank you so much for coming in.ato rejects the assertion, crimea is still part of ukraine, but it sounds futile when you look at what was happening on the ground. >> i think that's true. i don't want to be in the business of validating what the russians have done, but as a practical matter i don't think we see crimea changed hands again anytime in the foreseeable future. we will put those footnotes and all of our maps that say we do not recognize this change in borders, but for practical purposes, crimea is now russian. >> has president putin got what he wants and will stop there? >> he should be satisfied with this, i mean this really. he was humiliated by what happened in kiev, in a prison of his own making, the sochi olympics. he comes back, the one thing he has provided the russian people beyond anything else is a restoration of pride, the restoration of the store grievances. what happened in kiev humiliate simples up he looks for something to regain his mojo, so to speak, he retakes crimea. he's got it. all the

. >> narrator: once again, it would be left to general hayden to brief the press. he too minimized the scale of "the program."

. >> hayden personally meets with judge kotelly of the fisa court on two saturdays to make the pitch, to explain how they are going to do this. and kotelly eventually rules that this is legal: that the nsa can indeed collect all of the internet metadata going to and from the united states. and they used this authority that previously was used to trace numbers going to and from a single telephone... for everybody. >> narrator: kollar-kotelly's secret ruling relied on a controversial interpretation of

." >> narrator: for cheney, addington, gonzales, hayden and others, the personal stakes at this moment were extremely high. >> it was a felony to conduct this kind of surveillance in the united states. and everyone was relying on the shield that they were trying to create of having the president order it explicitly and have the attorney general sign off and say, "it's lawful." and as soon as the justice department starts to say, "we're not so sure this is lawful," there is a great deal of concern and anxiety. >> five separate car bombs blew up in a span of 45 minutes... >> a bomb last night set portions of the old city ablaze... >> narrator: at the justice department, they prepared for conflict with the white house.

far beyond even what hayden imagined. >> then a bombshell.k times published an article in december 2005 revealing nsa activities. >> they are eavesdropping on thousands of people without any warrants and they were keeping it secret from the fisa. it's a very big story. >> so big that by 2007, the nsa officially ended the warrantless surveillance approach, the surveillance program would effectively continue but with the approval of the fisa court. as that story was unfolding, thomas drake decided he would take his case public. >> i made a decision in early 2006 to go to a reporter. >> he gave information on classified information he contends to a reporter from the baltimore sun and knew it was, at the at least, a violation of policy. >> i knew by going to a reporter, i could be accused of worse. >> the fbi, investigating a number of nsa leaks, raided drake's home in november 2007. >> you're served with a warrant, big loud knock on the door and a dozen agents. your house is tossed. they dpo through everything. >> as the feds continued their inv

i sat down for long interviews with generals keith alexander and michael hayden, the two leaders of the nsa in the post-9/11 era, a time when its motives have been questioned. i also talked to critics, people who think the nsa and its representatives have gone overboard, even committed crimes. but first, we begin with a location that few people without security clearance have ever seen. we go inside the nsa itself. this is the national security operation center. it is a place where recently retired nsa director general keith alexander got his briefings. it is a top secret place in a private building in a very privet agency. >> this is where nsa learns so much about terrorism. it gives us the insights to see what's coming into our country. connect the dots, stop the next 9/11. >> suicide bombers and gunmen attack the independent election commission as well as an attack on the afghan army recruitment center. >> alexander is briefed on the latest terrorist threats which his people will interpret and distribute to top officials and military leadership. one of the analysts is roger whose job

can do to protect ukraine. >> general hayden, thanks for joining us. a closed door briefing last night about ukraine. afterward senator kelly ayotte, republican of new hampshire, came out and said that in terms of russian forces in eastern ukraine, quote, this is clearly an invasion. has russia invaded ukraine? >> look, might depend on your meaning of the word, jake. look, we have high-grade, high-density infiltration by russian special forces probably fsb forces into eastern and ought earn ukraine. it may be a difference without much distinction. >> what do we need to do. >> first thing is establish true governance in the ukraine. we actually have to help the government in kiev be a government, responsive, responsible, functioning. they hadn't had that in ukraine for several years. that's the first step. i also think we need to, well, perhaps, increase the cost and the calculus the russians are making. remarkable article yesterday in politico by one of the deans of american strategy, actually calling for the united states to arm the ukrainians with we

hayden pierce our character, our hero, chasing down this guy. hayden is also a hacker.ss to the entire grid in chicago so just by using his cell phone he can activate stop lights an all kinds of systems within the city to use it as part of his weaponry. >> so basically what we're watching is a real life version of a video game. >> that's right. and doesn't by none other than devin supertramp. >> oh. >> he's getting out of the hey, we're having fun out of the way video and getting into much more cinematic experiences all shot in the higher definition of high definition these days. >> does so many of the outdoors videos he never gets to do something scripted. >> he's going to be an oscar winning director eventually. ♪ ♪ >> lots of cool parkour moves just like in the video game. if you like the way this video looks check out the actual video game that comes out may 27th. >>> we're all getting ready for summer, here are three delicious summer desserts you can make on the grill. a strawberry shortcake kabob. the churro. the smores stuffed banana boat. >> look at that. your b

i sat down for lengthy interviews with keith alexander and michael hayden the two leaderses of the nsa at a time when a mission has been redirected and motives have been questioned. i talked to critics they have gone over board even committed crimes. first we begin with a location that few people without security clearance have ever seen. we go inside the nsa itself. >> the national security operation center it is a place where recently retired nsa director general keith alexander got his briefings. it is a top secret place in a private building in a private agency. >> this is where nsa learns so much about terrorism and what's coming into our country, connect the dots and stop the next 9-11 bombers. >> the headquarters as well as an attack on afghan army improvement center. >> on one of the final days at the postal zander is briefed on the latest terrorist threats which his people will interpret and distribute top military leaders. claiming responsibility for that effect. >> one is roger whose job is to decipher secret messages. >> it has a lot of complex mathematics advanced computin

listen to general michael hayden put things into perspective. >> let me parse out what the president just said. before i leave office, i'm going to make afghanistan look like iraq. you know, going to zero in iraq, did not lead to a happy outcome and now he's committed to doing the same thing in afghanistan. i think it's fairly dangerous. >> ifd attention to that sound bite, general hayden is saying we're going to end up with another iraq if we do what president obama is suggesting. >> what was he suggesting that we stay in iraq for 20 more years? >> finish the job. >> finish the job? they finished the job supposedly. we shouldn't have been in there in the first place. now what happens? it's fallen apart? >> it's fallen apart because we don't have soldiers -- [ multiple people speaking ] >> to interrupt flows of to prevent a civil war there. to give confidence to the maliki government. to make sure they don't shoot each other. so fallujah doesn't go to al qaeda. >> there are generals across the spectrum of news programs today saying that's what's going on in iraq is that al qaeda has

yesterday i spoke to former cia director former national security agency michael hayden. he gave a warning about the u.s. a takes a stance against boko haram. though he agreed with it is, this is what he said. >> those al qaeda guys are already committed towards the far enemy. you and me. boko haram is not. it's local. we are making a choice. i think it's right but it carries consequences. we are putting an american face on opposition to boko haram. an organization that doesn't target americans yet and we may accelerate that process because of what we've done. >> that seems in some ways a compelling argument, congressman. >> i respect michael hayden. he knows a great deal about it. we were looking at it from the perspective of trying to identify where in fact al qaeda had been met taft stizing. of course, it wasn't just the blowing up of the -- of the u.n. facility. the attack on the schoolgirls, i mean, of the churches, the christmas day attack of the sunday mass around the holiday, in my mind, was an eye opener. we also saw a greater sophistication in the way this group

. >> cia director, former nsa zrektser retired director michael hayden.eneral hayden, good to sigh this morning. >> good morning. >> 9800 troops end of '15, 4900, by the end of 2016, we'll be out of afghanistan for all intents and purposes a couple weeks before president obama leaves office. this is the right move? >> it's probably on the low end of acceptable numbers. but i totally agree with richard. this is a timetable, and it's not based upon conditions on the ground. we lose all leverage and negotiations with the new afghan president. and finally, let me parse out what the president just said, before i leave office, i'm going to make afghanistan look like a rock. you know, going to zero in iraq did not lead to a happy outcome. now he's committed to doing the same thing in afghanistan. i think it's fairly dangerous. >> leaving 10,000 troops in iraq, would that have made a difference in this circumstance? >> i actually do. >> do you really? >> yes, i do. because without american forces in iraq, two dynamics begin to take place, joe. number one, the dif

doesn't hayden have a point, aren't we likely to leave behind a real mess?an we've spent the last many years building up the afghan security forces and helping afghans take responsibility for their own security. we think it's very important to be clear with them what's expected of them and when it's expected and that's why the president was deliberate in making clear the timetable for drawing down our forces because as we do that, they have to take full responsibility. second, the president made very clear that combat operations by american and international forces will end at the end of this year. it makes no sense to keep tens of thousands of american forces in afghanistan if they're not engaged in combat operations, they'll just be sitting there as target. we've designed a deliberate draw-down that allows us to continue and finish the job of building up capacity of the afghan forces while pulling our forces out anding able to redirect those resources and that focus to other parts of the world where the threat has become more acute. >> tony blinken, thank

. >> reporter: as the mystery of flight 370 lingers, hayden says officials could have had the answersng. >> we would know where the aircraft has gone, with it is and we would have information on what happened in the meantime. >> reporter: and, christine, it's worth noteing realtime tracking with the same recommendation made after the air france flight 447 disaster in 2009. but nothing has changed since. >> all right, lori siegel, thanks for that report. finally, comedienne luchlt ck known for his rifts on men, women, bodily pungss, getting fat. >> i don't stop eating when i'm number t. meal is not over when i'm number. the meal is over when i hate myself. that's when i stop. >> but this week, he rantd on education policy, something that's usually not very funny h. etook to twitter railing against new common core standards and the tests and the homework that goes with it. he says his kids used to love math. now it makes them cry. he tweeted pictures of his daughter's homework questions and mocked their confusing wording. as you know from watching this show week after week, she is hardl

and the former director of the cia, retired general michael hayden. so joe, a great group this morning. >> and you have a great weekend mother's day for you. your mother's coming up to spend time with you. i know you're excited. >> worried. >> a little scared, but excited. >> actually we have a piece on her galore of the forest. >> does she bring the chain saw everywhere she goes? >> you will see her with it. it's scary. we have an incredible panel to talk about this. ukraine is voicing concern this morning one day after pro-russian militants defied a crest by vladimir putin. the anniversary today nazi germany's surrender to russia. they intend in crimea a victory lap. he was out in moscow's parade this morning. crimean flags were on display. final preps are underway in eastern ukraine for this weekend's vote on independence. despite putin's calls for dialogue between the countries, there are still strong signs they have a long way to go. oversaw a series of exercises including rocket launches, military vehicles. pro-russian militants are continuing t

here's hayden getting his high school diploma two weeks ago. where is my graduation photo? oh, check out the hair. yikes. i'm gretchen. here's shep. >> there are new accusations that iranian hackers created fake social media account soyuz that could spy on u.s. military leaders and ambassadors and lawmaker and many others. fake profiles on facebook. youtube, linked in, twitter, an enormous scam, years in the makings. nigeria's president calls for the group that kidnapped hundreds of girls. >>> photo shopping yearbook photos because teenagers shoulder's showing? guess the state. ahead, the teens themselves on why they're upset and school officials on why they did it. let's get to it. >>> good thursday afternoon to you and yours. the white house says the president believes the head of the veterans affairs puts his heart and soul into this job, even as more lawmakers call for the secretary, eric shinseki's head to roll, and even after the damning review of phoenix, investigates cop farm what many who isle blowers already told us, that many americans who serve our nation had to

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hospital, carl hayden v.a. hospital is not the only scandal out there.appear before congressional hearings in his capacity. i also believe that the suspension of the people in charge of the phoenix v.a. is entirely appropriate. they still have the right of innocence until proven guilty. but it is terribly disturbing. gretchen, i have handled my -- my staff alone has handled over 2,000 cases in the last year and a half. and it gets worse. >> we've interviewed a lot of people from other states. i'm hearing about their stories on facebook and twitter. hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this. senator, always great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you, gretchen. >>> a dad demands answers at a school board meeting about sexually explicit required reading given to his high school daughter. and he ends up in handcuffs. really? >> i'm shocked. i've never been arrested. we had no notice of it whatsoever. i've never been arrested. we had no notice of it, nothing. it reads like a triple j porno movie. ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the

it started with senator mark udall and then senator kay hayden denounced shinseki at 2:00.you could add others to the chorus. five called for him to step down. and, by the way, the five up up for reelection in 2014. there are other candidates, like michelle nunn, rick weland in south dakota, and some democrats been getting pressure in their own districts to do something. >> senator jean shaheen can but she's done nothing, putting her loyalty to the party and the president ahead of americans. >> as we said yesterday, senator shaheen changed his position but senator mark pryor has not and he's getting hit on the air as well as. >> mark pryor's response to the silence? dram droo company three official himself been called to testify for its 7:30 meet bug the committee members spent most of the time venting, not really listening for answer. >> ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, veterans died. get us the answers, please! >> i understand that, mr. chairman, and i will look -- >> that's what you said three months al. >> i just come away from this hearing tonight and i get the feeling that no one

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mike hayden as well, i've not seen people doing what they say they're doing. so i don't see that, and every review group that's looked at it has not seen that. >> woodruff: but you know what's been going on at the agency. they're saying the encryption went away and it was possible to not only collect but listen in on data of american citizens and their phone calls. >> let's delve into that. it's metadata on the 215 program. it has nothing to do -- >> woodruff: without using the word "215". >> okay, so the metadata program only has the two phone numbers, the date and time of the call. you can encrypt it but there's no other information other than the number and n.s.a. doesn't know who the number is. >> woodruff: seems to me you talked to people in the agency and out. there's this fundamental divide between those who say what's going on, what you just described, this non-personal sweep of collection of so-called metadata. >> right. >> woodruff: and on the other hand there are those who say, yes, they do that and they listen, they have the ability to listen in on

they were not letting them run anything and one of them said i got mad when tom hayden got off the planend handed me his dirty laundry and said, clean it. and so we've had this back and forth for a long time. >> before we take questions i do want to ask you a very card question that may not seem important but i think it does get at something interesting in the culture. sheryl sandberg a facebook has launched this campaign with a girl scout had to ban the word bossy as an adjective for girls. i'm really curious what you think this is an orwellian attack on language or ball z. -- ball z.? [laughter] >> i should think we should embrace bossy. i think we need to reevaluate but i think it was a social media stumble, not orwellian. orwellian. >> how about you, any opinions of? >> how does tina fey weigh in on this? >> bossy pants. >> we will get on the. maybe we should tweet at her and asked her. >> good idea. >> unbelievably come it's not unbelievable, anything is believable but the words, i'm just beginning to shape this up for speech i have to give on sexism in politics, and the twisting of

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michael hayden, thank you very much. the formal director of the cia. host for this hour is leo hindery. he is the managing partner of intermedia partners. he speaks on media. we will get to that shortly. i want to start with ukraine. as --e will be remembered of the postwar era. with i disagree with the general. if the ukraine starts to pretend or act like a nato nation, you're going to jim -- you are going to do the eastern and southern parts of ukraine. had a popularly elected president, by every president, a , we andd fair election the eu encouraged his overthrow. morsi in egypt. the minute that happened, crimea had to go to russia. if the ukraine begins to act like a nato nation, tipping west end of the ooh, then russia has to act. what we needed to do was instantly reach out to prove in and figure out where his activism would stop. would it stop at crimea. public.did was went we said this offends us, more later. >> would republicans have done better? >> i think john mccain's -- 150 pockets troops that we put on the order of ukraine and poland, thi

the destruction and disappearance of an alternate or interim waitlist with regards to the carl t hayden veterans affairs medical center located in phoenix arizona, in which secretary should seki, robert , mr.l and thomas lynch will gone, general counsel, or any other representative of the , dr.e of general counsel ron mauer, can -- chairman of the congressional house leader. reference too a said e-mail or other written correspondence. >> members, you have for the motion. do i hear a second? >> motion has been moved and properly seconded. i will open the floor for the ranking member to make a statement. i would ask whether any other members would have a statement, be very brief, because everybody has a very tight schedule this morning. i understood -- the ranking member is recognized. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i think we can all agree that safe, accessible health care has always been a priority of this committee. i believe it is not changed today. over the past years, we have asked the v.a. for information that has not been forthcoming. frustrations remain high among committe

hayden veterans affairs medical center located in phoenix arizona in which secretary shinseki dr. robert petzel undersecretary for health dr. tom lynch undersecretary for health for clinical operations and management mr. will gunn general counsel or any other representative of the office of general counsel ms. joan mooney assistant secretary for congressional legislative affairs dr. von mauer director of the liaison service the congressional relations officer or michael huff congressional relations officer parties to our reference in such e-mails and written correspondence. >> members you heard the motion. do i hear a second? the motion has been moved improperly seconded. i will open the floor for the ranking member to make a statement and would ask if any other members have a statement that it be very very brief because everybody has a very tight schedule this morning. i understand. the ranking members recognize. >> thank you. >> thank you very much mr. chairman. i think we all can agree that quality safe accessible health care has always a priority of this committee and i believ