peralta haynes? >> i would say a few years ago when she was a legislative aide here at the board of supervisors and maybe before then. >> and when did she join your campaign for sheriff? >> about five weeks before the election. >> and can you describe your wife's relationship with lynette peralta haynes? 2011. >> i would say friendly, social. >> did you introduce them? >> i believe they just met themselves but since ms. peralta haynes worked on our campaign, that must have been one of the ways that they met. they could have met even before. >> have you referred to ms. peralta haynes in the past as a domestic violence advocate? >> me personally? >> yes. >> no. >> is your relationship with ms. paulettea haynes in the professional capacity as a political consultant or a domestic violence advocate? >> it's always been on a political/social level. >> sheriff, exhibit 82, which is an exhibit that's in the record is at&t phone records. that exhibit shows the 11:18 a.m. on january 4, your wife and lynette pe

you are saying this -- miss haynes told you she said that to miss madison? >> that is what i recall. >> ended -- did miss haynes express an opinion of what she thought about miss madison calling the police? >> no, except she thought it looked like she was trying to hurt eliana, she did not know what was going on. >> did miss peralta haynes expressed concern about the impact on you of a police investigation? >> yes. >> what did she say? >> to be aware that this is happening. she did not really have to say anything, just myself i knew it would have impact. >> sheriff, is domestic violence a laughing matter? >> of course not. >> when people joke about domestic violence, they devalue victims. >> i think so. >> when people joke about domestic violence, they make light of the serious crime. >> objection. >> overruling. >> rephrase, please. >> when people joke about domestic violence, then make light of something that is a serious crime. >> yes. >> you made a joke about domestic violence at your inauguration. >> assumes facts not in evidence. >> i do not joke about

peralta haynes that way. >> i don't believe so i had. i believe i knew that was in her background, but that was not her relationship with me. >> ok. now this text message from ms. peralta haynes at 3:53 p.m. says, i need to talk to you to protect you. call me. >> do domestic violence advocates usually protect the frarptse or victims of the violence? >> objection. >> objection sustained. there's no foundation. >> so sheriff you are aware of the portrayal of ms. linnette peralta haynes as a domestic violence advocate. >> i have heard of the references. >> but to you she's a political consultant. >> i think you've established that fact. >> now sheriff, if we look further in exhibit 3, -- in exhibit 83. if you look on page three. we see a text message from your wife to you at 4:18 p.m. in the afternoon. stating call me, it is an emergency. do you see that? >> i do. >> do you recall receiving that text message from your wife? >> yes. >> and when did you -- what did you do in response to that text message from your wife? >> i believe we spoke.

haynes. is there anybody else who know with certainty we were -- will hear live? >> i don't think so. chairperson hur: what witness, -- >> both of our experts are available on the 29th. chairperson hur: is acceptable to defense counsel? >> i have thought so but an issue just came up. i need a moment. that is fine although i should state our objection to the sheriff testifying before the mayor's witnesses. chairperson hur: my understanding is that the mayor tent -- intends to call the sheriff. you want to make an objection to that.

haynes. is there anybody else who know with certainty we were -- will hear live? >> i don't think so. chairperson hur: what witness, -- >> both of our experts are available on the 29th. chairperson hur: is acceptable to defense counsel? >> i have thought so but an issue just came up. i need a moment. that is fine although i should state our objection to the sheriff testifying before the mayor's witnesses. chairperson hur: my understanding is that the mayor tent -- intends to call the sheriff. you want to make an objection to that. >> he should be ready and available. chairperson hur: great. i understand that the mayor based on our previous conversations is available on the 29th? >> that is correct. chairperson hur: we had discussed the possibility of experts testifying out of order, having been testifying on the 29th. it sounds like they agree that will be ok. do i have that correct? >> there may be no need to take them out of order. chairperson hur: but you still want haynes. >> i do not know about the other witness. we are still deciding. i do not know about the

haynes? chairperson hur: it sounds like she is saying she is not available until july. we should discuss scheduling as well as soon as we're done with this. we should address when she is going to be able to testify. the objections to the sheriff's declaration. is there anything else to consider? mr. kopp, will you be addressing this? >> perhaps i missed something that i did not see objections to his specific a state -- specific statements. >> the sheriff had filed his declaration late so we filed our deck -- objections. chairperson hur: the first objection. >> i do not think this is an opinion. it is a statement of fact. i feel he can offer in this testimony. >> the charges were dismissed as part of a global plea-bargain. that is different from charge is being dropped. -- charges being dropped. i think what happens at the sentencing speaks for itself and this in jackson and needed ambiguity. 0-- injects unneeded ambiguity. chairperson hur: that objection is overruled. the second objection. >> in terms of the mayor not telling sheriff mirkarimi why he suspended him, we t

. >> this is a text message you sent to linnette peralta haynes? >> yes. >> in this text message, you say this is a political witch hunt. what did you mean when you said a loud drumbeat needs to vibe? >> overruled. >> that our messaging needs to get out. concerns exchanged between miss haynes and myself was that we had been quiet. >> in the message that was sent out, this was all political. >> it appeared, yes. >> i am asking you, what message did you intend to send out on january 12? what message did you say you wanted to send out on january 12? >> in response, what i said. the vibe that needs to vibe that this is a witch hunt. >> you wanted this to be the media strategy. >> objection. >> i think it has been answered. sustained. >> ok. >> sheriff, he knew at the time is as message that he had injured your wife on december 31. >> objection. >> i think it is foundational. overruled. >> yes. >> you knew you had committed a crime? >> yes. >> whose political witch hunt was it? >> objection. >> who was behind it? >> could you withdraw the question and s

chairperson hur: but you still want haynes. >> i do not know about the other witness. we are still deciding. i do not know about the availability of their expert witness. >> i do not have an answer on the former sheriff. i need an indication as to whether they intend to cross- examine them. >> we agreed to do that on thursday. chairperson hur: i think we need to hear from any experts we have on the 29th. i thought that is what we had discussed and i thought we were also going to get an indication they were available. yours are. >> i can find out in short order. again, i still have not had a chance to digest or read the expert witness declarations submitted. depending on if we have objections, we may not require them to appear. chairperson hur: on the 28, we will deal with objections to any experts, for their objections to miss madison, in an potentially the testimony of the sheriff. on the 28. an exhibit for, the video. i assume it is no problem for the sheriff to testify on the 29 to for some reason we run out of time. >> getting our experts on the 29th without knowin

haynes's unavailability as well, or her counsel. chairperson hur: in light of that, i think we should withhold issuing a subpoena for ms. madison, as of now. unless there are dissenting views, i do not feel particularly strongly about it. does that address all of the objections to the mayor's fact witness list? i am sorry. we did not address ms. williams. i think, with ms. williams, because the issues are similar -- it is a shirker declaration. we could go through it, if the parties wanted to. or if you think it would be helpful to meet and confer, so you can reach whatever stipulations' you may be able to reach with ms. williams that result from your discussions of the other witnesses. we might be happy to hear that, too. >> i could offer that i would be willing to prepare my objections and submit them at the same time as the other objections to the merchants and madison declarations. >> you submitted objections to williams already. >> thank you for reminding me. if they needed to be expanded upon, if we needed to meet and confer,

haynes here one of those days. >> no. >> should we lockdown the 24th if we can, just in case? chairperson hur: 24, mr. kopp may be in trial. i am reluctant to schedule it. certainly, if your case resolve's shortly, it might be helpful to have that available, but as of now, i do not think we should. >> i will see if i can figure that out. chairperson hur: ok. exhibit list. do you all exchange exhibit lists today? >> we prepared it. we had some technical difficulties filing. it will still be filed. chairperson hur: ok. you all will get copies of your respective a the lists. we have made rulings today that affect a number of the exhibits. do you want to resubmit exhibit lists tomorrow in light of our rulings today? >> may be just the same exhibit list with a notation of what the ruling was would make sense. for the record of what we have. >> we would like that have until wednesday. we are in the process of filing the exhibit list based in part on the response of the receipt of declarations from mr. mertens and miss madison. chairperson hur: who would be the sponsoring witness? >>

. >> o'brien: according to heather haynes, there's another controversial aspect to how aspen does business. the more work employees convince customers to do, the more money they make. >> they want us to sell the cadillac of all dentures, and that's how we would try and sell. we would sell the biggest, best product, and if that didn't work, then we'd downsell. >> o'brien: if you succeeded and did well, could you make a lot of money? >> you could. >> o'brien: bonuses? >> yes. bonuses were given on a monthly basis. >> o'brien: so how do you incentivize your people and the dentists along the way here in order to keep the money flowing? >> well, the incentive for everybody is, let's do the right things for the patients. >> o'brien: but they have to meet certain goals in order to derive income. there's a bonus system, right? >> when you say "they," who's "they"? >> o'brien: well, office managers, for example. >> so the office managers are rewarded based on controlling expenses and making sure that they reach a certain patient satisfaction score. the doctors don't have any budget to reach. they'r

linnette peralta haynes, your wife, and others. let me ask you very directly. at any time did you dissuade anyone from any law enforcement investigation? >> never. >> at any time, did you ever ask anyone to destroy any evidence? >> never. >> thank you. we have also heard testimony about your weapons that were turned over to law enforcement. let me ask you first, how did you store those weapons? >> the two semiautomatic, at the six and the beretta, they are -- their slide chambers were completely setback. they were neutralized by a lot of tape. there was never ammunition in the weapons themselves at all. and it were completely immobilized from being of any use, and they were stored in a cabin vent -- cabinet in a storage room that would take both the padlock and a bald what, two keys, in order to gain entry. on at the smith, it was an open a cylinder, no ammunition, a taped so that the cylinder would not be -- so that the cylinder cannot be engaged, so that, again, they would be rendered neutralized. >> thank you. at any time after your address in january -- arr

haynes that day that would tend to show what role ms. haines was taking monday. it is proved, more or less, that she was intending to protect the sheriff, based on what was coming out of this incident. chairperson hur: you have conversations suggesting the sheriff had talked to ms. haines about providing pressure? >> we expect to get something out of this testimony, at least about contact regarding this incident, and also their relationship and ms. haines statement of their purpose. the kelly williams statement is first offered to show state of mind with regard to reporting this incident. less so, what happened on the 31st. the second reason the statement is relevant for a non-hearsay purpose is that there are substantial similarities between the account that ms. lopez gives to ms. williams and gave to ms. madison on the first. that tends to defeat the claim,, a claim of fabrication are in accuracy. it essentially gives greater weight to their testimony, in that they independently say that ms. lopez was relating to them the same basic facts about what happened. i

it appears to communicate peralta haynes' belief that she did not have to do anything for herself. she was satisfied miss lopez was not in danger. i do not think she is trying to say this is an empirical fact. this is on her -- her own perception. >> mr. keith? >> if this is only offered to show why her state of mind and why she decided to do whatever she did, we do not have an objection for that purpose. we have an objection to it being an assessment about whether she was actually in danger. chairperson hur: i would be inclined to overrule this objection. i do not think this is being offered as an expert. it is being offered as her opinion. what value that has, there is some, -- >> we were not given on -- any of the facts on which she relied. we get none of the information. of course whatever she relied on would be here say. -- hearsay. chairperson hur: i would be inclined to allow it. questions from the commissioners? the objection is overruled. mr. kopp, do want to address the second objections? >> yes, in the third paragraph, and leave the portion objected to was the italian si

haynes that lasted about 39 minutes? >> yes, i have since become aware of it. yes. >> she was your campaign manager. >> yes. >> she had many responsibilities. >> yes. >> she had responsibility for the budget of your campaign? >> not exactly. there were other people involved in the budget of the campaign. she was a principal partner to it. >> she was the principal partner in helping to crofter public message during the campaign? >> not exactly. i had a consultant for that. >> did she do logistics for your campaign? >> yes. i would define it more like outreach and organizing the field, in campaign terms. >> when you have a person organizing in the field, problems arise in the field, and they help address them. >> objection. testifying. chairperson hur: wrap it up quickly. overruled. >> as it pertains to precincts and organizing in an election, correct. >> was she loyal to you? >> i would like to believe so. >> do you trust her? >> yes. >> do you value loyalty? >> yes. >> do you value her? >> yes. >> have you communicated with her before the morning of january for

melissa harris-perry, host of "melissa harris-perry" and chris haynes host of "up with chris haynes."thank you very joining me tonight. >> always a pleasure. >> chris, let me start with you. the choice to me seems clear. how can republicans justify putting politics ahead of people? >> well, i think it's -- melissa can probably speak to the historical resonances of a senator from louisiana saying essentially urging essentially that governors in the states nullify a federal law. essentially refuse to implement it. to me what's been so crystal clear about this week is at the end of the day, there are two political coalitions. an interest in covering people with health insurance and one who does not. those are the stark facts. there is one political coalition ja that does not -- explicitly they say themselves does not care about that as an objective. that's a stark difference. >> melissa, people talking about dr. king's famous i have a dream speech. in it he talks about governors whose lips drip with the words of nullification. opposing their will, nullifying federal law. we just had the

. >> o'brien: according to a former aspen office manager, heather haynes, what we saw at aspen was a typical attempt to encourage a customer to finance expensive treatment. >> o'brien: was there pressure to get them signed this first day? >> yes, yes, it was. >> that first day. >> yes. >> why? >> if you... because it's just like anything else. you walk out that door, you probably won't see him again. >> o'brien: it seems like there's a lot of effort here to put people on the hook, so to speak. >> yes. i felt, though, that if they couldn't afford it, why should i sell them that product? i have grandparents who are on a monthly budget. i would think about that all the time. i'd just think, "wow, those are my grandparents sitting in front of me, and i'm telling them to pay for something that they can't afford." >> o'brien: the credit cards aspen offers are backed by major corporations like g.e. and are used widely by dentists. according to moody's investors service, one key to aspen's business model is that it gets paid by the credit card companies in advance for the patient's entire tr

this was yesterday, right at haynes haynes point. send your photos to weather@nbcwashington.com. the reason we're having the high water, we're having some abnormal high tides due to a persistent onshore flow. but this will be diminishing as we get into today. we just had high tide about an hour ago at haines point. >> a blue sky, puffy clouds beginning to develop now. 75 at reagan national. perfect, dew point a comfortably dry 53. a light wind coming in out of the north. elsewhere we are into the 70s now from west virginia, the shenandoah valley, western maryland, all across virginia and maryland, around the bay, eastern shore and absolutely delightful day. here's the view from space over the last 12 hours. we've had just a few clouds beginning to pop up. but overall, lots of sunshine pouring down on a satin blue sky. going forward into the afternoon hours, these areas of green are zones of potential showers and maybe a passing thundershower by mid to late afternoon. then this evening, things should settle down. by late evening, any shower activity threat is over. and then by mid

. >> -- chair hur: ok, so it sounds like from your list, lopez and haynes -- ok, why do we not do this. why do we not do this by the 13th? and are the parties, and i will ask the commissioners, too, are the parties an agreement that the chair can actually -- does the chair need to sign a subpoena? the commission? >> no. chair hur: ok, good. so if the parties would agree to delegate authority to the chair to approve subpoenas being issued, then i think we can get that out very soon thereafter. is that acceptable? >> yes. >> yes. chair hur: ok, so by the 13th, you will tell us who you want to subpoena, and we will notice them. ok. anything else? >> no. chair hur: mr. keith? >> mr. waggoner had made a request for a bill of particulars. we would file charges that look more like counts for him to deal with that, the amended set of charges, count one, count two, count three. we can do that shortly, is essentially, provide them with the notice that they are complaining that they do not have. chair hur: ok. when can you do that by? >> by the end of this week. chair hur: is that acceptable, mr.

kids were in a sailboat near haynes point when ape gust of wind tipped them over. they were in the water for several minutes before samaritans came along and helped them right the sailboat. the kids were wearing life vests checked by the coast guard and said to be okay. >> a huge crowd in leesburg, virginia to debate what may be the single biggest decision in decades for loudon county whether to extend the metro rail to dulles airport and beyond. jackie benson reports on the passionate testimony. >> reporter: in anticipation of a july 4th deadline for a vote, more than 100 people showed up to have their voices heard in a matter that could forever change the face of loudon county. an extension of metro rail known as the silver line. loudon would be responsible for $200 million in construction costs and $11 million a year to support operating costs. opponents fear a crippling tax increase. >> i would urge you to opt out of this decision. the power to tax is the power to destroy. that's what chief justice john marshall said in murdoch v maryland years ago. >> reporter

>> it was in response to the message i received previously from linnette peralta haynes, and i had repeated the term that was in her previous message, yes. >> i guess my question would be then, in terms of domestic violence advocates and the kind of protests that certainly have been prevalent in the city of san francisco and with our very progressive record on how we deal with domestic violence in this city, do you consider all of those of vehement protests or anger about domestic violence a political witch hunt in every case? >> no, but in this particular case what i was informed of is that people who were part of that protest were also well- connected to my opponent's campaign for sheriff, and at the time of limited information, that is what people were speculating. >> and if others were speculating, so did you agree with this speculation? was that your conclusion as well? i mean, does the fact that they may have been connected to political opponents in the race automatically make it a political witch hunt? >> not at all, no, but at that particular time we're taking in information and pro

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representative haynes that was the chair of this committee, yes. >> so there is another representative, republican mike shirky who told wlix yesterday that, quote, this is nothing. this, meaning abortion is nothing short of infantiiniofinicide until we completely defund planned parenthood, we have work to do. so this is to affect specifically planned parenthood? >> i think -- i think representative shirky revealed the real intent of this, to limit abortion access in the state of michigan with specific emphasis on making sure that planned parenthood can't continue in our good work. i think that's really what we need to focus on. it doesn't have anything to do with safety. >> according to the gudmaker institute there were more than 80 laws. how is planned parenthood mobilizing to fight back given how much of this we are seeing across the country? >> well as you can imagine, it's been a tough time to be part of planned parenthood. the thing that warms my heart is the amount of grassroots organizing in a short period of time. others that have come up we can make appropriate calls and gener

laura haynes who sits behind me gave me a note. i just want to refer to it briefly here. the question goes back to jurisdictions. i show this to senator barrasso. it's very short so i just want to mention this before you all are excused. i believe that some folks are confused about the subcommittee's jurisdiction. and we want to be clear and state very briefly what we think it is. this is a quote. nonmilitary environmental regulation and control of nuclear energy. it's nonmilitary environmental regulation and control of nuclear energy. that's verbatim. our friends in the energy committee, whom we love, have jurisdiction over the, and this is verbatim, quote, nonmilitary development of nuclear energy. that's the nonmilitary development of nuclear energy. and since we're talking about the control of nuclear waste, spent fuel, we believe this clearly lies if this subcommittee's jurisdiction. in fact, several nuclear waste bills have already been reported to our subcommittee, to our committee over recent years. and i am sure, given the affection we have for our friends in the

if there are any poster children for shame, and this is a map of shame, i know that pastor freddy haynes would join me and say that texas is certainly fighting for the prize. and florida is right in the mix. the map of shame, somebody wanted to call out another state, of course is the voter i.d. if you will note, more than 75% of america is trying to do voter i.d. i call this the 21st century poll tax. and when you talk to your congregation, even though that sounds like we're talking baby boomer, young people understand that as well. so i want to just say these points. the point is that you just had an irs meeting. having policy discussions about getting rid of this is not lobbying. having it outside of the realm of the church house, having it somewhere where you are leading it is okay. and if there ever is a 21st century civil rights movement, it is the voter i.d., for it does nothing other than say you are trying to show up as this pastor right here. it has nothing to do. so we do have a place for twitter and e-mail, but we have a place for prayer vigils, marches, standing on the stree

of left leaning products and they have found this frankly kind of ingenious way to support richard haynes a conservative agenda and you get a lot of young baloney olds who ordinarily would support left wing causes to walk around acting as billboards for mitt romney and the way they did that is they put out this line of t. shirts that they you know they aren't exactly campaign slogans they have these sort of ironic funny. you know slogans on them they see things like to the git to mitt you know it's this drove back retro cool funny old ironic way of of advertising for mitt romney so they get a bunch of young kids to buy these thinking that they're just funny and ironic and serious and they just end up being tools for mitt romney basically and they don't realize the political agenda behind the guy who owns that story as are the people who bought who are buying and actually think that this is kind of ironic and funny i think another one i think i can say this that mitt is that it says on the teacher it's pretty funny. but it is a i think that a lot of people who are buying these perhaps as a

. >> at times that we -- >> reporter: moments later judge haynes handed down the sentence. >> the possibilityparol after each murder. >> reporter: at one point ramos smirked. >> four years we waited so you can imagine today is a good day. it's a blessing day. >> the judge imposed the sentence. he will serve the rest of his life in prison. >> justice is served as the police ever looked for the real shooter. >> reporter: crying by members of the bolognia family influenced the jury, the judge refused to -- >> the defense says it will appeal in the hopes of getting a new trial. in san francisco, rob roth, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> the los angeles kings won hockey's stanley cup tonight in a game seven victory over the new jersey devils. it's taken the kings 45 years to win the championship. los angeles police are on tactical alert at this hour in case fans get out of hand but so far things are peaceful around the staple center in downtown l. a. ktvu's sports director mark ibanez has the whole story in sports. >>> when the sun goes down in the city, party buses roll out on the town. but some people

. >> at times that we -- >> reporter: moments later judge haynes handed down the sentence. >> the possibilityparol after each murder. >> reporter: at one point ramos smirked. >> four years we waited so you can imagine today is a good day. it's a blessing day. >> the judge imposed the sentence. he will serve the rest of his life in prison. >> justice is served as the police ever looked for the real shooter. >> reporter: crying by members of the bolognia family influenced the jury, the judge refused to -- >> the defense says it will appeal in the hopes of getting a new trial. in san francisco, rob roth, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> the los angeles kings won hockey's stanley cup tonight in a game seven victory over the new jersey devils. it's taken the kings 45 years to win the championship. los angeles police are on tactical alert at this hour in case fans get out of hand but so far things are peaceful around the staple center in downtown l. a. ktvu's sports director mark ibanez has the whole story in sports. >>> when the sun goes down in the city, party buses roll out on the town. but some people

haynes are open outside of the beltway but we are starting to is he i delay forming as you make yourast 50 and 123. that's a check of your fox 5 on-time traffic. >>> a new poll finds romney and the president are even. the new poll from the associated press shows republican challenger mitt romney is virtually tied with president obama. it comes after three months of declining job creation. 47% of those surveyed say they will vote for the president and 44% say for romney. with the election five months away, the economy remains the president's top liability. >>> both of the candidates are getting ready to speak to an influential group of latino lawmakers. mitt romney pitched his economic message to hispanic leaders in florida this afternoon. he is speaking to a group called the national association of latino elected and appointed officials. president obama is scheduled to speak to them tomorrow. >>> still ahead, stressed out about the competent. it appears many americans with found a solution, a roommate. -- still ahead, stressed out about the economy? >>> another live look outside on t