hayon. speaker: it's helpful to me to hear the expert and learn a comment interest those interested parties that has something to add. i liked the letters we received. they were interested and helpful and enlightening and i'd like to hear from the people who are here at least even if we aren't ready to make a decision in these matters. speaker: mr. keane, would that be saepable. speaker: with the chair is saying, i would like to propose a sort of -- split the baby type situation that we're going to look at this as something that's going to be something -- that we go ahead with what we have. and put it on for the next meeting as well for anything further that might be added and also for final decisions. i think that would -- that should take care of the concerns that are raised about having people here now. be able to speak to it which i respect. speaker: okay. any -- speaker: i would like to hear from the people who are here. their comments on it and at the conclusion, we decide whether to d

. >> commissioner hayon. >> under prop b the contractor ban no public benefit. >> that's correct under city law. >> why did it supercede prop j. >> that's the expressed pregs progression of the property e we're going to take away everything this of the prop j and replace that with this narrow focused limits i wasn't there there were probably folks here that can explain it better it was true that the time prop j and the language that was infected that language was destined by the oaks project that lunge made it's way into maybe a half-dozen city laws there was a challenge down in southern california for some of the language part of it was declared unconstitutional i don't know for a fact but i imagine proposition e superseding statute was enacted in part to that court case and some of the constitutional concerns that came up in southern california we look at himself. >> this a one an additional effort to broaden out prop a and to broaden it. >> to go right so right now the contracts radio covered and again, this will canned it to the issues of permits that are not covered right now yeah

meeting of san francisco ethics commission february 23, 2015, calling the roll arrest commissioner hayon commissioner keane commissioner andrews and chair commissioner hur has been excused item 2 on the agenda public comment on matters powering or not appearing on the agenda within the jurisdiction of the ethics commission anyone have my public comments before we move to the next item hearing none i'll turn to the third item a presentation by san francisco stanford university students regarding their campaign finance project for the 2014 election and welcome and look forward to our presentation. >> thank you. >> you can come up. >> yeah. >> steven macy the technical officer want to take a moment to welcome christopher's and jeffrey they've been interning from the b matters of admission project at stanford university and look at the laws of the data we collect and data and visiontion software we use in the office in the past two months able to produce data visualization on the november 2014 election i don't want to take away if from their presentation but the work they've been able to do

hayon. speaker: here. speaker: ken. speaker: here. keane. speaker: here. speaker: first is agenda -- speaker: i attended a task force meeting on august 6. at that meeting, a very unpre-possessing young man played a tape recording of your ethics commission meeting. featured in that audio recording was primarily your commission keane praising this young man because according to keane, hundreds he has prosecuted an ethics complaint and according to mr. keane, quote, hundreds of people in the same situation would have given up. really? or the obstacles to a successful commission complaint so high that a fraction of 1% can expect success? does mr. keane tell his business associates, and his neighbors, i'm on the ethics commission. it's dysfunctional for, you know, less all -- less than 1% of the population, i'm in charge. a very strange thing to be proud of. don't we want to live in a society where access to an ethics commission complaint is the lowest, not the highest. that raises two questions. first of all, how do all these people supposed to feel knowing th

meeting of san francisco ethics commission february 23, 2015, calling the roll arrest commissioner hayonmissioner keane commissioner andrews and chair

speaker: commissioner hayon. speaker: when do we need to get it to the board? speaker: i'm not sure there's a clear answer to whether if we get it to the board the next day, it will definitely be in place for the election, but why don't i afford the city staff on recommended timing. speaker: it might be helpful to think about the timing issue right now. whenever the commission approves the final version of what is comfortable with. have you to add a minimum of two months for the board of supervisors process. that's assuming the board of supervisors have no further amendments. if -- it can tact on another month or two. there's a few procedural things to make it a significant timeline. the ethics commission meets once a month, in the past, ethics commission has met, sort of on a special meeting basis to deal with legislative changes like that, but to the order of two to four months is realistic. as to what would be necessary for the people out there that needs to compile with this stuff, it would need to be in place by early august, but it will be better to have