we'd like to especially thank ama rosa, an hbcu alumna who understands the important of hbcus and this underscores, this underscores the importance of diversity from the top all the way down in the executive office and corporate suites in america, in the military, and across the board. had she not been in the community, what they can do to drive president trump's agenda. thank you. i'd like to have someone come. >> my name is leonard haynes iii. former executive director of the white house initiative on black colleges you should president george w. bush. today marks a historic day because this initiative now becomes more real and possible in terms of helping the black colleges increase and expand that you are participation in the fellow programs in the united states of america. african-americans pay taxes like everybody else but never received our fair share from the federal government. these institutions here responsible for the creation of the black middle class. there's no question about it. the african-american museum would not be where it was today if it were not for black college

she wants do right by hbcus.he could do right -- >> you'll be watching that. >> yes. >> paris, go ahead. >> i think it's important that president wilson does bring up the budget. history is important. why is this community so concerned about the budget, in particularly president trump's first budget? it's because president obama's first budget there was a cut. president bush put in over $77 million dollars that went to hbcus. when president obama came into office, he cut it. what we're looking to this administration, mr. president, no significant massive cuts to hbcus. >> that's factually incorrect. factually incorrect. >> it's true. >> we're almost done here. i'll give you the last word. go ahead. >> paris, president obama did not cut it. he just did not renew it and then when it was brought to his attention -- >> semantics. >> oh he nudity for ten years instead of the two years that president bush had it in for. basically we're not talking about a cut. the issue is when this administration, the trump administra

i'm a product of an hbcu family. -- >> that's great, don. >> there are more important things than hbcus, and you keep pointing to one of them when i've gone down a list of things that are really important. and when i'm telling you i would rather eat than -- or some people, the priority for them is to eat rather than where they're going to go to college. >> all i'm saying, don, is that on the graphic that you put up, you showed that where there were cuts, and i was pointing out to your audience that there might have been a 13.5% cut to the department of education, but within that cut as it relates to african-americans, no cuts to hbcus, no cuts to pale. when you look at other department things such as charter schools, there was an increase to charter school funding, which african-americans overwhelmingly support. when you look at things like building the wall and enforcement and things that are going to directly impact jobs, there are monies going into dhs which are going to lead to more jobs. i.c.e. officers and immi

runs hbcus?t be running the department of education under any circumstances given her background and her unwillingness to even learn the issues herself and learn the history behind the issues. this is really troubling on a number of fronts. first of all, many of the presidents who were there and who were invited are indicating that they were led to believe that some of these discussions that would take place at the meeting would be far more substantive. as an example, a lot of hbcus would like to see year-round pell grants being offered and that was something that has not come up. that's something that would help hbcus because many of the students rely on pell grants. we know republicans actually want to cut pell grant funding. a lot of these presidents went into this meeting thinking it was going to be one thing and came out with something completely different, which is donald trump's usual slight of hand, smoke and hemirrors. as far as betsy devos is concerned, to go back to that and your earli

we just know, we just know that there are great things to come for our hbcus. >> what are the significant investment that you look for? >> no questions, thank you. >> what is the significant investment? there is no money in the executive order. thank you very much. >>> after this event, clair mccaskill kale to talk about the creation of historically black colleges and universities and their importance and contributions and also addressed what current education secretary betsy devos had to say about hbcus and what she said is their contribution to school choice. >> mr. president. >> senator. >> i asked quorum call be set aside. >> we're not in a quorum call. senator's recognized. >> thank you. i want to begin my remarks by paying tribute a strong civil rights leader, ina boone who passed away a few days ago. she was 90 years old and she really was the strength and heart of so much of the civil rights work that went on in the st. louis area. began working for the ncaa. she was an extraordinary woman and i think it's important to put a tribute to her in the united states senate and because o

champion for hbcus. >> i am a champion.sturbed when president obama cut funding from his budget. this president did not make one cut to that funding or pell moneying. >> wh-- what did he do with pel? >> hbcus are important but lot of people watching tonight going, i got to eat, live somewhere. would love to send my kid to a college, any college. maybe hbcu, but why rambling on about that when talking about urban development, other education, health and human >> i will caution you by saying to the 300,000 students. >> i said there are more important issues. don't put words in my mouth. did you hear what i said. i said there are more important issues. >> when you put up the graphic with all the cuts. >> my entire family went to hbcu. i know what they are. >> i'm glad. >> i have an hbcu family. there are more important things than that and you keep pointing to one of them when i have gone down a list of things that are important and when i amming you i would rather eat or the priority for them is to eat rather than where they

hbcus are real pioneers when it comes to school choice." choice. it was pointed out by numerous gobsmacked lawmakers and just citizens who've read a history book that hbcus were actually created because there was no other choice under jim crow betsy devos started to backtrack telling hbcus that "your history was born not out of mere choice but out of necessity in the face of racism and the aftermath of civil war." and tweeted out "providing an alternative option to students denied the right to attend a quality school is the legacy of hbcu. but your history was born not out of mere choice but out of necessity and the aftermath of the civil war." not clear that the people who run hbcus need to be told their own history though i think the secretary of education could probably use a bit of a brushup on the topic. for lower back pain sufferers, the search for relief often leads here. today there's drug-free aleve direct therapy. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. al

dealing with hbcu's and with trio. dealing with these programs like gear up, pell grant as, jobs and job training, college work study -- grants, jobs and job training, college work study. i want to invite one of our colleagues up, one of our leaders, representative jim clyburn from the state of south carolina. one of the demographics that often go overlooked in this debate is the polite of rural african-american -- plight of rural african-american students. representative clyburn, not only does he understand the polite of the urban african-american student, -- plight of the urban african-american student as, but he understands the -- students, but he understands the rural african-american students. and the ticket out of their hometown, to be able to go experience something different. many of these kids, representative clyburn will tell you, they've never had the opportunity to get far outside of their hometown in rural america. these programs give them the opportunity to do so. so i want to invite our assistant leader

hbcus have been really pillars of the african-american community for more than 150 years. amazing job. >> now social media was already preoccupied with this photo of white house adviser kellyanne conway with her feet on the oval office couch during the hbcu meeting. but for me and many others, the bigger story came in a written statement by education secretary betsy devos, when she released this hours after the monday listening session with those same educators, calling hbcus "pioneers" when it comes to school choice. critics were quick to point out that hbcus were a direct response to segregation and by no means a choice. is this yet another instance of conservatives exploiting black history for political cover? joining me now is michael lomax, president and ceo of the united negro college fund, who was at the white house for the signing, and stanley nelson, award-winning filmmaker whose latest work is "tell them we are rising: the story of historically black colleges and university." let me go to you first, dr. lomax. you were in the meeting with the president when he si

one twitter user wrote -- "betsy devos said hbcu's were about school choice. as if white/colored water fountains were about beverage options." another user joked that it was as if devos had said -- "rosa parks is a real pioneer when it comes to seat choice." the backlash against devos' comments come as white house counselor kellyanne conway has responded to criticism over a series of photos showing her kneeling on a couch in the oval office with her shoes on in the middle of president trump's listening session with the presidents and chancellors of the hbcu's. in her response, she repeatedly used the wrong acronym to refer to the hbcu's. >> a certain angle and always doing that. i'm in a disrespect. i did not meet at my feet on a couch. i want people to focus on the bduat work of the h presidents. amy: in india, crowds of people protested against donald trump at the funeral of 32-year-old srinivas kuchibhotla, an aviation engineer who was shot and killed by a white man in kansas last week. navy veteran adam purinton reportedly yelled "get out of my country" be

to the hbcus, i the thing that i told the presidents of the hbcus when i'm with them, to ask him abouthe money. because hbcus need money. like you said, they never asked. so i asked. with regard to voter suppression, he seemed to get it. they seemed to understand that you cannot have research done on voting in the united states without dealing with voter suppression. i gave him a letter that we will give to you all, two letters, that we have sent to vice president pence and to the president about that issue and it lays it all out. what was the other issue? we didn't get to the cbo. me, buthe agreed with you cannot -- scarlet: you have been listening to an impromptu news conference with elijah cummings and peter hospital -- and the president of johns hopkins hospital. they gave drug pricing bill to president trump. joe: after that initial republican bill the other night, trump said there would be two or three more phases of health care reform. we will also do stuff on state lines and, obviously, the administration has more to come on the front. scarlet: so the process has begun. trump,

and i am a graduate of hbcu, hbc wisdom i know you are.eart tendon by this moveo but i have to say the real person not the person up here ii have to think you just neverever know what president trump isntmi going to do. >> absolutely. >> you just never know where he's going to fall on an issue.a ill think that's wh oy an lot f people, you know, like this lik president.esid >> we talked about thisut ts yesterday. you know, people are saying, tot his credit he has taken on thiss issue.issu i know that april lion was oneao of the first who asked him about that one white house press briefing for this to become an issue maybe more funding for hbcu' as lot of them who are in financial perils.ncpe >> yes. >> they can definitely use it.di that's something they didn't ses the previous administration. >> exactly. >> fair is fair. call it out where you see>> it n both sides.ides clear example of that. that. >> that might be surprising tobe know the first african-ame sricn president wasn't necessarily a huge supporter of our hbcu's and this president

so i look forward to working with you directly regarding your specific hbcu. senator van hollen: we have a particular challenge and issue with one of our hbcu 1890 so thank you. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you, mr. chairman and welcome, governor. nice to see you again. my colleagues don't know but during the secretary designee's time in the air force, governor rdue spent time at lock burn base in ohio and you will put ohio second ahead of georgia. senator van hollen had a couple of points that i wanted to re-emphasize. one is the importance of the chesapeake bay. senator brown: a lot of those apply to the great lakes initiative. the president has cut it almost 100% which is just ludicrous. senator portman and i and senator stabenow, all of us on the great lakes states, the irony it was a great lakes states that really won him the election. i am old enough to remember senator stabenow's not old enough but i am old enough to remember what the great lakes looked like when i was a kid and it's one of the great accomplishments of government and communities an

but since we are talking about hbcus, did you hear the comments that hbcus were the pioneers in schoolhoice. schools that were started 150 years ago because african americans wanted a choice of what college they wanted to go to. that's the equivalent of saying george wallace was a greeter as integration was happening. [applause] since i am probably on the borderline of the law as you -- on the wall, i should probably just keep going. [laughter] but if somebody can talk to bannon, and tell him he should get a stronger moves so -- moves so his hair can stay down because every time he goes , to a meeting i know where he's bentbeen because when he takes his hood off, the hair comes off. since i'm there i might as well -- [laughter] [no audio] are really good friends, we were lucky we came in together and played in the baseball game together, our families got to know each other. tim has so much in common with donald, that i am not sure if our relationship can survive. i am sure he is sitting there saying, i do not have anything in common with him, just name one. to start with, neither one o

shortly after trump signed the exec order for hbcus, >> it's a very hostile environment right now. >> reporter: there was even more concern after the president met with betsy devos. many students say they felt blindsided by the meeting and are calling for more transparency. even on charter day, the students protested inside the ceremony. >> disappointing that students close to do that during his occasion. you know, i would charge students to do some research and, you know, explore the unique relationship that howard has with the federal government. >> reporter: the university says they have and will continue to listen to the opinions and needs of students, but protests and allowing voices to be heard is also something many believe embodies the spirit of howard university. >> for what the students are doing today is in a long tradition of student protests. no, it in' and, yes, sometimes there's overreach. >> houfrd'sward's alumni includ long list of people. >>> first lady melania trump celebrates dr. seuss's birthday today by reading the children. >> you have brains in your heads, you

secretary devos later clarify in a series of tweets posting, hbcus remain at the forefront of openingen previously been closed to so many. providing an alternative option to students denied the right to attend a quality school is the legacy of hbcus. >>> then president-elect trump called nato obsolete. but last night he took a new position. >> our foreign policy calls for direct, robust and meaningful engagement with the world. we strongly support nato, an appliance that forges the bond of two world wars, that have grown in fascism, and the cold war, and defeated communism. but our departments must meet their financial obligations. and now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that. in fact, i can tell you, the money is pouring in. very nice. we expt our partners, whether in nato, the middle east or in the pacific to take a direct and meaningful road in both strategic and military operations, and pay their fair share of the costs. >> joining us onset, cal perry. does it sound like there's a 180 going on here and what does it say to our allies?

and issue with one of our hbcu 1890. so thank you. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thausnk you, mr. chairman. welcome, governor. nice to see you again. my colleagues don't know, but during the secretary designee's time in the air force, governor perdue spent time in columbus, ohio. glad you will always put ohio second right after georgia. senator van hollen had a couple points i want to reemphasize. one, the importance of the chesapeake bay. a lot of those same exact issues apply to the great lakes initiative. the president has cut it almost 100% which is just ludicrous. senator portman and senator stabenow, it really won him the election. i'm old enough to remember what the great lakes looked like when i was a kid, and it is one of the great accomplishments of government and communities and the federal government especially to clean this up. we can't see us backside. i would emphasize the importance. chesapeake bay is pretty important. but the great lakes are the largest collection of fresh water in the world. chesapeake ba

they hope to discussed occasions, hbcu. criminal justice reform and infrastr >> president trump is warning house returns that are waivering on gop healthcare bill their jobs would be on the line in next year's election. tomorrow law makers in expectsed to vote on legislation that will undo much of provided healthcare coverage to 20 million americans. president trump has met with gop lawmakers on the fence and other gop lawmakers have made changes to the bill. >> day two of supreme court nominee neil gorsuch is in the books. gorsuch faces hours of questions from senators on wednesday. he appeared to grow testy after four hours of questioning before the senate judiciary committee and stating there's a lot he regrets about the confirmation processen including putting his family in that ordeal. >> u.s. marshall will be helping a happened it's part of their public initiative. >> marshalls will escort kids through crosswalks and the program began last year as a way to reaffirm their commit thement to public service. >>> let's get

the issue of hbcu came up, and it was said who will be heading hbcu and the president did not have a response. will this be the case? >> i assume you're referring to the executive order, and we don't have anything to announce at this time. >> evdoes the president still believe he can work with the freedom caucus on future pieces of legislation? >> i think it's going to depend on what legislation. >> so not necessarily? >> again, it's not a question of we're going to work with anybody who wants to work with us on achieving the goals that the president set out. we're not taking anyone and saying, we're not going to work with you again. as he mentioned, he learned a lot in this process about loyalty. it's not just a bloc, it's certain individuals. i think the president learned a lot through this process, but i'm not naming names. one of the things that's interesting is when you look back -- and i know there's bayne lot -- been a lot to make of this, the president learned whe to walk away. it's not just making a deal, it's knowing when to walk away from deals or when a bad deal is a bad

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i know you worked with georgia's hbcus as a governor. thoughts, if you would give us briefly because we are running out of time and a vote is coming, what are the next steps you plan to take in support of those units -- universities. >> again, i was pleased to hear the president and welcome them. we know the work they do as a land grant university and unique niche programs in the state. they have a value to serve and i look forward to helping them with the research, providing and asking them for particular research projects with usda that have the opportunity do that. give them an opportunity to compete in those areas and to listen and learn from them as well as they can provide good information were us in areas in which they operate. >> i appreciate your sensitivity to historically black colleges unlike your soon to be colleague in the cabinet who said they were about choice when it came to black statements. senator donnelly mentioned opioids. my state has more opioid deaths than any other state in the country. if they repeal the afford

. >> our goal is to create a robust pipeline and bring in next summer other hbu -- hbcus to participate. >> this is new for google. the closest thing they had prior to today was code next where they help and find and teach hispanic high school students in technology but that is in oakland, not on the peninsula. jessica castro, abc 7 news. >> thank you for sharing that with us. >>> we're celebrating a special day here at abc 7. national puppy day. and hosting a day long adoption event. >> we kicked things off on abc 7 mornings and now we have new puppies. mike has the task. he's upstairs with all of the puppies from two of our perfect pet partners. hey, mike. >> i know you are so jealous. and hopefully you could come back up here and enjoy the puppies once again. this buffy and beauty from the peninsula humane society. how are you? >> i'm doing great. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. thanks for being here. tell us about what beauty and what puppies on 7 or what it means to the peninsula humane society. >> well beauty is an adorable -- >> she's being a puppy. >> she is. she's been he

. >> you heard chris mention hbcu. there was a group of presidents in the white house the other day, and it goes to think white house advisor kellyanne conway apologizing after social media had a field day with the photo that spread like wild fire. it showed her with her feet up in the couch in the oval office which was snapped as he met with leaders. some people say the posture was disrespectful, she responded to the controversy during an appearance on fox business saying i was asked to take a certain angle and was doing exactly that. i meant no disrespect. i didn't mean to have my feet on the couch. however, president trump's office coming saying he encouraged her to take angles from different angles >> there were different angles, she said she didn't want to step on the field. it's the oval office and she should have had a certain level of respect. i think >> if you watched last night. shawn and i poked a little fun. here's the reality. the media spent a lot of time dissecting that picture. in the grand scheme of th

devos said hbcu's are real pioneers in real choice. they are afforded greater access and equality.eith ellison tweeted it's not choice, it's segregation and jim crow. >> and kellyanne conway has given an explanation for criticism online. crouching on the oval office. she said she was actually just asked to take a photo from a certain angle and she was just doing exactly that. >> he was getting out of the way. our other major story is the deadly weather that's rolled through the middle of the country overnight. multiple tornados leaving behind widespread destruction. at least one person was killed in an uprooted tree 85 miles west of chicago. baseball sized hail reported in that area, a nursing home and factory were among the buildings damaged there. >>> another tornado spun across an open field. there were no reports of damage or injuries there. >> authorities say a suspected tornado picked up at least 15 cars and threw them into the air. one struck an occupied car killing the driver. other vehicles were also blown right off the road. that is random and horrific. that car flying ou

trump signed an executive order moving the federal initiative on hbcus from the education department to the white house. it's intended to strengthen the finances of historically black colleges and universities, but it doesn't specify any new federal funding. >>> just a day after several jewish schools received bomb threats, two islamic sites in montgomery county are on high alert. both received threatening letters. one of those sites is a mosque. the other a community center. news4's shomari stone is live in silver spring with that story. shomar shomari. >> reporter: good evening. police confirmed the center and the mosque received hateful notes. some muslim americans we talked to, tell me they're concerned for their safety. >> i personally feel really disappointed. >> reporter: tonight, he's upset at the islamic education society of maryland. they say someone mailed a hateful note yesterday to the mosque that reads, quote, i will pay $100 to charity for every muslim slaughtered. >> the letter is sent, you know, obvly fear. i don't feel any of that. i just feel really disappointed. >

and maybe subconsciously thinking well, we don't have the establishment of hbcus or the need for that comes amid we're not as racist because we don't have that history. >> did you say, what, they don't have it in britain? repeat the question, i'm sorry. the echo is a little hard to -- >> i'm asking if british students, maybe they're doing subconsciously a comparison to institutional oppression and racism in britain comparatively to the u.s. because they don't have that history may be of like the necessities to establish lichen hbcu because up until sometime in the '60s both institutions didn't even accept black people. do you think maybe they are thinking to themselves we don't have that same problem here so we don't have, it's not overtly racist in britain? >> absolute. i mean, the u.s. looms large in britain as it does in many countries, and there is this idea that the u.s. as a race oriented society but we don't have race, we have class. the railed is the split racial inequality in britain and display of class inequality in the united states. we know like there's data that shows th

. >> we know last month for black history month hbcu president went to the white house to meet with him for a very uncomfortable picture not just because kellyanne conray was in the middle of it but also -- >> they weren't very happy about the meeting. >>> there were several who were fine with it, and there were several who thought he didn't meet the standard. but in the middle of black history month, when he does sound genuine, he is talk about what terra is saying. when he is not reading from the propertier he's talking about -- but the point is this is someone who doesn't come across your point is genuine at all when he's reading the prompter. >> you mentioned april ryan and also we'll -- >>> they're making fun of me for the other night when i -- >> you made fun of yourself. >> bad andre to bad hombre. i'm back with my panel now. so terra, the first lady melania trump gave the first keynote speech today p/e women encourage awards. and she said in her speech this. >> we must continue to work towards gender empowerment and respect for people from all backgrounds and ethnicities. rememb

today he had an opportunity to finally reach people who didn't vote for him with the hbcu historicallylack college and universities executive order. if you read that order there's no new money, no new funding. he had, if you saw the photos from that -- >> let me push back on that a little bit. there was a photo op. >> exactly. if you talk to the people who were there after looking at the executive order there's nothing will, no new money, there's nothing will. >> that and 2.75 will get you on the subway. >> exactly. >> and the thing with chicago if he really had a commitment to black citizens in all these places he wants to lift because he just found out about them, it's like what about jobs programs, forwardable housing, you're talking about coal miners and industry that's have been dead for 30 years why not think of substantive jobs in cities. cities get ignored when we talk about jobs programs and we move out to the rural areas but what about sub ststantive education. >> to your point a lot of details came on the law enforcement side so will be more border agents but not a lot of de

that range from drug prices to infrastructure investment and education, hbcus. there will be a range. i think that's part of it. there is no set agenda to say we must talk about these things. honestly i think health care is going to come up, too. the president wants to get their idea, before april jumps out of her seat we'll give her -- >> thank you for giving me a follow up. i want to follow up on the cbc and i have another question on another subject. so, with the cbc, since you are saying you went through all of this prior to the fact that he became president that there was an effort to reach out to the cbc. with all of this understanding that they are an important group to deal with in handling some of the issues, the urban issues or issues that pertain to their community haas how does the president plan to move forward in working with them, particularly some who don't see eye to eye with him? >> part of this is he continues to have a dialogue, april. it's simply sitting down with people, talking about issues, talking about common ground. i think if you look

we know last month for black history month hbcu presidents went to the white house to meet with him foromfortable picture not because kelly anne conway was kneeling in the middle of it but because there were a gazillion presidents and it looked crazy. >> they weren't very happy about the meeting. >> there were several who were fine with it but several didn't think he hit the standards. that was the end of black history month and here we are at the end of women's history month him not sounding genuine, reading from a prompter. when he is not reading from prompter he is asking april ryan when she's going to set up meeting with cbc. >> i'm not going to high five you right now. the point is this is someone who doesn't come across. the point doesn't sound genuine when he is reading the prompter. >> you mentioned april ryan and we're going to talk about the first lady as well speaking about women's empowerment. we'll be right back. is there an elk in your bed? with sleep number, there's an adjustment for that. tilt your tormentor and put those snores to sleep. does your bed do that? right now

it was more interesting that the hbcu college presidents who met with president trump actually were kindf unsatisfied with the results of the meeting and disappointed at sort of his lack of support for education. that to me was a story. instead, everyone talked about kellyanne kneeling on the couch for two days. i thought it was stupid, and i thought congressman richmond was obnoxious for making a joke about it. >> we didn't do the story on this particular program because a picture of the photo you see there was taken out of context. he was trying to get a picture of the people, and maybe she was, you know, sitting back down, looking at our camera, whatever. we didn't actually see it was a story. there she is. she's taking a picture. what has become the story now is really the response to this picture. so, bakari, a few minutes before that comment, the senator said has anyone seen the controversy around kellyanne conway. come on, people. you remember the '90s. that couch has had a whole lot of worse things. come on now. you say both men crossed the line. >> i think it was inappropriate.

it is a nothing burgh they are is actually no new money to help out hbcus, so that is what it has been looking like, either you have executive orders that are just like press releases, thisser glorified press releases or pretty divisive and dark. >> woodruff: well, bring us all together mark and david you have 22nds to do it. >> yes. okay. david is right about attacks of 1986, bill bradley, architect -- it took five years. but if you are just talking about a corporate tax cut, that will sail through, but if you are really getting into personal and getting rid of loopholes, then you are back and forth and it is not going to be an easy thing. >> he has been leaking -- air since the inauguration and lose support he will have reversed that and get a boost in the polls, a lot of people think, okay he seems normal, seems good, so he stopped the slide that he has had since the immigration -- >> woodruff: thus spoke david brooks. thank you all for staying here all night and that concludes our special live coverage president trump's address to congress and the nation and the democrats' response

this is the same administration where the socket of education is saying that hbcu's historically blackes represent school choice. there was slavery and segregation. there are immense challenges with this administration and that is what we should be holding their feet to the fire on. >> we have very little time. i'm going to ask you this. >> sure. >> given that he can pivot, have liberals found an effective way to oppose him? >> to your point. when you have to reduce the standard of what it means to be presidential on whether or not someone is using their inside voice we've got a problem on our hands. i used to not have an inside voice in the library at school. we're not using that standard. we're talking about the leader of the free world. that's serious business, not an inside voice. >> it's like a silent movie, sound down, don't listen to donald trump but watch what he does. >> come back and visit. >> thank you for having me here. >> thank you very much. >> we'll be back with more news after a short break. why is my son having trouble in school? [beep] finding lowest airfare to istan

really it was more interesting that the hbcu college presidents who met with president trump were kindhe results of the meeting and disappointed at his lack of support for the education. that to me was the story. instead everyone talked about kellyanne kneeling on the couch. i thought it was stupid and congressman was obnoxious make the joke about it. >> didn't do the story here. picture there was taken out of context. trying to get a picture of the people. maybe sitting back down looking at camera, we didn't think it was story. there she is taking picture. what has become the story is the response to the picture. bakari a few minutes before the comment and at same event senator tim scott jokingly said, anybody seen the controversy. come on people, you remember the '90s, that couch has had a lot worse things. come on now. you say both men crossed line from comedy to -- >> regard ms of what you think of kellyanne conway or or lack of affinity for the truth or propensity to tell falsehoods, i think disrespectful and crossed line for both. i will say to their faces, i'm friends with them

and she called hbcus pioneers of school choice. that they were started by the fact too many students in the u.s. did not have equal access to education and critics slaimd she did not go far enough she was white washing hbcu or historically black schools were created because they didn't have choices to go to white clems and university. i well tell you a few weeks ago betsy devos in first visit to a clem cam puts was here at howardnd some students said that the university here should no longer accept federal funding as long as donald trump is president and that he should never be invited to viz the campus. clearly friction and ought rage to some degree at howard university vis-a-vis the trump administration guys. >> 7:1 if you had internet trouble you're not alone. one will tell you who is responsible. >> uber ceo after caught on camera fighting with an uber driver. what were they fighting about. >> uber? >> 7:13. passion pass passion pass >> w tv. >> breeze yeah out there. >> we're on tv folks. >> sure is. >> winds out of the south

of issues that get discussed that range from drug prices to infrastructure investment, education, hbcus, there will be a range, that's part of it, there's no set agenda, and obviously i think health care is going to come up too. the president wants to -- before april jumps out of her seat. >>> thank you, with the cbc, you say you went through all of this prior to reach out to the cbc, so with all of this understanding that they are a important group to deal with handling some of the urban issues or issues that pertain to their community, how does the president plan to move forward in working with them particularly those who just don't see eye to eye with him? >> i think part of it continues to have a dialogue, april, it's simply sitting down with people talking about issues, talking about common ground if you look at the conversation and with congressman eli i can congressman -- elijah comumming maybe there's 15 or 20% of the issues they agree on, maybe there's one bill they can work on but there's a willingness to sit down and talk and i think that's fist step in the propces, and the p

lose, the cuts in the community development block grants, the cuts in pell grants, level funding, hbcusting a lot of grants that they would otherwise be able to use. there a lot of areas in where african-americans are losing in this trump administration budget. but we also have an opportunity to point out and remind the president that a lot of his comments are offensive. they're offensive to all americans and particularly to the african-american community, his comments about president obama, the way that he characterizes the african-american community as if all of us live in poverty and inner cities. >> how did the president respond to that when you directly sort of said to him, this is offensive. what did he say? did he apologize? >> no, he listened. he didn't apologize. whether or not he understood, whether or not he'll change course that's yet to be seen. but we didn't really dwell on those issues. we thought in order to have a candid conversation we needed to put that on the table but then we quickly turned to some substantive issues where we think that the president working with th

today he had an opportunity to finally reach people who didn't vote for him with the hbcu historicallyack colleges and universities executive order. if you read that order it is a nothing burger. there is nothing in there. there is no new money. there is no new funding. but he had -- he had -- if you saw the photos from today -- >> corrine, let me push back. there was a photoon. >> exactly. but if you talk to the people who were there after looking at the executive order, there isn't anything there. there is no new money. >> right. that and 275 will get you on the subway. >> exactly. >> and the thing is, with chicago, if he actually really had a commitment to black citizens in chicago and bumgarner and new orleans and all these other places that he wants to list because he just found out about them, what about jobs programs? what about affordable housing. you are talking about coal miners and industries that have been dead for 30 years, why don't you think of substantive jobs that are in cities. cities get ignored when we talk about jobs programs and we move out to the rural areas. wha

but then if you look at that in the context of this is after education secretary devos said hbcus were -- >> school choice. >> -- pioneers of school choice? i mean, it seems like a pattern here of racial gaffes, to say the least, but also where there's not serious -- probably the sessions meeting was the first time we've even seen them meet with the leaders of the black community that were critical of them and that was not just there for a photo op. >> really i think what we see in the trump administration is a cast of characters that has a very troublesome relationship with people of color, including even those who are people of color. in tomorrow's "the new york times," i can say that i'm writing a story about alex acosta, who had a lot of issues when he was running the department of justice civil rights division. he wrote a letter to a federal judge saying that vote caging, which was people, private citizens challenging the voting rights of african-americans, people of color, that that was something that was part of the balance of voting rights in general. so, this idea is that you

place and will that money be reallocated to other departments like the department of education or hbcu's? >> well, i would say that the president finds it unacceptable that some localities and counties and potentially some states have prioritized a political agenda over the safety of their people by flattering our nation's immigration laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities. the failure to follow federal law can have tragic consequences for all of our citizens and all of our country. it's particularly concerning in a place like chicago and other cities like yours in philadelphia where there's been increased violence. immigrants, both legal and illegal are free to roam the streets, and the attorney general reminds all states and local jurisdictions of responsibilities to comply with federal laws. with respect to the budget piece, you know, i think we've got an ongoing budget process and we'll have to see how many states comply and where if any potential savings are there and how we reallocate them. the president's budget, fy 17 contingency budget for funding beyo the continuing resoluti

work, and you know that the hbcus have been facing increased challenges including maintenance funds, and i know that you have worked this and i would like to have your commitment to follow up on strengthening those 18 or 19 h bshgs krshbcus. >> and we have them in georgia as well, and i was glad to see the president welcome them as well. so i look forward to regarding your specific hcbu. >> and we have a particular can challenge and issue with one of the hcbu 1890, so thank you. mr. chairman. >> mr. chairman, thank you. and governor, welcome. nice to see you again, and my colleagues don't know but during the secretary the's designee's time he spent time in lockburn and so i am always happy to know that you will put iowa behind us [ laughter ] and some of the great lakes apply to the inish initiative and the president has cut it almost 100%, and that is loud crouse, and senator portman and i are on the great lake states, and the irony is that it won him the election, and i'm old enough to remember senator stabenow is not old enough, but i remember what they looked like as a kid, and i

and will that money be reallocated to other departments like investigation or hbcu? >> well, i would say the president finds it unacceptable that some localities and counties potentially some states have prioritized a political agenda over the safety of their people by flaunting our nation's immigrations law, becoming so-called sanctuary cities. the failure to follow federal claw have tragic consequences for all of our citizens in our country. it's particularly concerning in a place like chicago and other cities like yours in philadelphia where there's been increased violence. imgrants, both legal and illegal, are not safe from criminals who commit acts that are free to roam the streets. the attorney general issued a public notice reminding aut states and local jurisdictions to comply with federal law. with respect to the budget piece, you know, i think we've got an on going budget process and we'll have to see how many states comply and where, if any, potential savings are there, and how we reallocate them. the president's budget, fy '17 contingency budget for fundi

one president wrote this down saying that we are looking for a plan from you to invest in hbcus and we will execute it when we get it. and so they're looking for full funding for title 3 pell grant full funding, fall, spring and one-time $25 billion investment. what does this white house think about this plan that they're trying to give back to this white house, especially at a time when you are looking at cutting domestic spending. >> when they were here, we were pleased to roll out the executive order that talked about making historically black colleges and universities a priority in this administration. moving that sort of point person into the white house so that we can coordinate with a whole of government opportunities for -- we talked about this. looking at the different educational opportunities that expand government. whether it's health or investment in sciences or even stuff like rotc programs that are some of these that span out of the department of defense. we've got to look at how we're providing government assistance in a whole host of ways to historically black colleges

because they don't have that history maybe of like necessity to establish like an hbcu because up in the 60s most of the institutions didn't accept black people. so do you think that maybe they're thinking to themselves -- well we don't have that same problem here. so we don't have -- it is not overtly racist in britain potential >> yeah. absolutely. i mean, u.s. moves large in britain as it does in many countries and -- about there's definitely this idea that the u.s. is a race oriented society but we don't have race here. we have class. but until reality is that there's plenty of racial inequality in britain and plane of the class equality in the united states and we know there's a data that shows that. but there's a lack of kind of narrative about racial inequality that's slowly changing in the last few years. has been -- a little bit more talk. there's a report i remember when i was this in early years of this research i found that this table on oxford admission website showed that admission statistics by race, and for black british black -- there was i think there was one studen

about investment in these colleges, and one president wrote this down "we looking for you to invest in hbcue less and we will execute it when we get it" here they are looking for a full funding for tidal trainees, pell grants full funding, fall, spring, summer and a one-time $25 million investment. what does this white house think about this planned that they are trying to get back to the white house especially at a time when you're looking at cutting budget spending? >> press secretary spicer: when they were here, we were pleased to roll out the executive order that talked about making historically black colleges and universities a priority in this administration, moving that point person into the white house so that we could coordinate you whole of government opportunities, we talked about this prayer looking at different educational opportunities to expand in government whether it is health, investment in scientist, even stuff like rotc programs that span out of the department of defense, but we have to look at how we are providing government assistance and a hose doing my in a whole hos