if they are logging onto healt healthca healthca healthcare.gov this is the next point.t exorbitant cost, they are paying for services that they are not going to need and it doesn't make sense for them to engage. >> doesn't this program only work if they sign up? in other words if they pay in the money to help pay for the money? >> the larger pool is having larger pools to offset the people that do need the coverage at that moment. i mean that is the idea of having a larger pool. young people are the most interested in signing up. even though there are campaigns to prevent them from signing up it is some that many need today. if they are pregnant, these are things that they do need today. >> that is a small faction. i'm considering you part of this group. for the most part you are healthy. if you were given the choice, would you sign up? >> absolutely. people see what the options that are there. that is a lot of what they are seeing. a lot of people are going into see the options that are there. for most, they are going to end up being less than $100 a month. you believe

healthca at its best day should never be something administered on a federal level.be cities and states. that way we as individual voters choosour bliss how much or how little hlthcare we want from government. most of us would probably choose very little because we value it. >> waste and fraud and staggering incompetence, rick. >> you know, it's hard to know where to begin. apparently johdoesn't like the veterans administration which is the only healthcare program run by the government. but guys, this is so transparent. it's yet another way to attack a law you don't like. you're maligning pple, calling them organizs. these aren't organizers. these are people who wen and got trained becausthey get paid to do this job. they get paid to provide -- >> rich, is that true? didn't the message go out to usual suspects here? >> who are the usual suspects? >> just google ceedeco and look at thehistory of fraud in the organization. they won four contracts in four states to be the nav gator -- navigator for obamacare. you have seen this before, right? >> t i.r.s. is overseeing t

. >> i am as frustrated as anyone with the launch of healthca re.gov. let me say to these americans, you deserve better. i apologize. earning yourd to confidence back by fixing the site. we are working day and night and will continue until it is fixed. sebelius also faced questions over an internal thernment memo obtained by associated press which shows officials concerns about a high security risk on the site due to's -- insufficient testing. waslius said the website secure and expressed confidence it would be optimally functional by november 30, two months after its launch. president obama defended the health care rollout wednesday during an appearance in boston, but he was disrupted by protesters urging him to disrupt the construction of the keystone xl pipeline. >> [chanting] >> ok. we are talking about health care today. no, that is ok. that is the wrong rally. [laughter] we have the climate change rally in the summer. this is the health care rally. >> president obama cited problems faced in the rollout of the massachusetts health reform law signed

the president is now acknowledging the problems with healthca healthcare.gov are more serious than he first let on. >> the website has had way more glitches than i think are acceptable. >> reporter: it was a different president obama two weeks ago when he tried to compare the health care rollout to the launch of the new iphone. >> they found a glitch and so they fixed it. i don't remember anybody suggesting apple should stop accepting iphones or ipads. >> reporter: even robert gibbs someone says someone should be fired. they're calling on kathleen sebelius to go. sebelius isn't talking at least not since her interview on "the daily show" last week went viral as she fumbled her way through it. >> how many have enrolled thus far? >> fully enrolled? i can't tell you because i don't know. >> reporter: the failures are well documented, the success stories are not. they refuse to release numbers on how many people have been able to enroll. jay carney for the first time managed to identify a few. a woman in illinois, a couple in mississippi and a family in utah. remember seven million people

the end of november healthca healthcare healthcare.gov will work smoothly for the vast majority of usershead of the economic council from gene sperling. r. sperling talked about the obama administration's economic agenda today as congress gets begin its budget negotiations this coming week. the house and senate have named to a budget conference that was part of the deal to reopen the government. hosted by m an event business forward. it ran about 50 minutes. doyle and i'm the president of business forward. those who are new to us we were four years ago with the mission making it easier for usiness leaders across america to tell washington had you to create jobs and accelerate the economic recovery. help of 50 of the biggest countries in the world cities.ctive in 100 we have briefed more than 400 mayors, members, governors and members of congress and administration officials. we are honored to welcome gene sperling the president's top to discuss how budget negotiations can move forward and what is ahead on the agenda.nt's economic he is director of the national economic council and assist