incredible group of computer graphic specialists that george lucas had assembled at lucasfilm that heanted to sell. and so i went up there and saw what they were doing and i met the leader of this group, group, and ed told me about his dream which was to make the firstomputer animated feature film some day. and showed me what this team was working on. and i was blown away. i spent a lot of time in computer graphics with the macintosh and laser writer buthis was way beyond anything i've seen. and so i bought into that dream both spiritually if you will and financially. and we bought the computer division from george. and incorporated it as pixar. john was there from the very start. was there and we were joined by other people along the way. and it took us ten years to do it. >> what was so hard? >> oh, there were-- good question, huh. >> yeah, it is a good question. it took us a long time to build the technical foundation to dohis stuff. we were pioneering every step of the way, pixar invented all of this stuff, but as john says we don't view our ef i as a technology company, our product is

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