first of all, what is the heartland institute?> the heart and as it is libertarian think tank based in chicago, illinois recovered domestic policy and our mission is to discover, promote and send out to the public free-market solutions to social and economic problems and we been doing that for 28 years. >> who founded you click >> we were founded by james h. patton who is a big week at the cato institute and a giant in the free-market movement. and president of the institute has been just a pass since 1984. >> you also published book and i want to ask you about a couple. let's begin with this in my herber walberg, school choice the finest. >> one of the issues the heartland institute's push for decades now is the idea of having many faulty parents and having would not have been student achievement does rise. and so, herber walberg, whenever senior fellows is very interested in this topic and is very knowledgeable. he's also a fellow at the hoover dictation and has written two books on school choice we can get the public and politi

first of all, what is the heartland institute. >> the heartland institute is a premarket think tank based chicago, illinois recovered domestic policy in her mission is to discover, promote and say no to the public free-market solutions to social and economic problems and we've been doing that for 28 years. >> who founded you quick >> were funded by chief h. patton who is a bigwig at the cato institute and really giant in the free-market movement. and our president of the heartland institute has been just as bad since 1984. >> you also publish books. i want to ask you a couple. let's begin by herbert walker, school choice paintings. >> one of the issues at the heartland institute has pushed for decades now his school choice in having many followed the parents and having when that happens the student achievement does rise. so her blog colliver senior fellows and board members is very anxious it in this topic and is very knowledgeable. he's also a fellow at the hoover institution has written two books on school choice and we can get the public and politicians the fact about why and how schoo

akerson why gm funds the heartland institute. a group that tries to push climate change into our public schools. is this funding consistent with the company's message and marketing of the chevy volt? >> i am glad you asked me that. i wasn't aware of this until the last day or so. a couple of things in terms of good governance. i cannot sit on the foundation's board or steer anything. >> you are saying it was the foundation that gave the money to the institute? >> yes, not the company. let me say another fact. the first time i was interviewed by the press. the guy said do you believe in global warming. i said i do. executives said you don't say that in public. this may surprise you, my underwear doesn't have gm stamped on it. i am an individual. i have my own convictions. sometimes they agree and sometimes they don't. i think it's actually healthy to have different perspectives around the table. let's talk about -- i always say actions matter more than words. just last week, the apa named us the star energy provider because of the

i also think the heartland institute, i'm told, does other things. and i find this interesting. i won't go any further. i'm going to take another look at it when i get back to detroit. i'll leave it at that. >> we've had a lot of conversation, is there a price on carbon some day. you're going to pass on carbon very low. australia recently put in a carbon tax. china is moving in that direction wlchlt do you think there will be a price on carbon and enough and how that will effect your planning for general motors selling cars around the world? >> i always -- you know, whether i was a midshipman in the naval academy, we were taught yes, sir, no, sir and we'll find out, sir. i don't know. >> no one does. lots of people have metrics and scenarios? >> all i got to say is -- i try to be very pragmatic. and we have to allow for all possibilities. and we have significant -- we were an active participant and willing participant in cafe standards this year. we're going to do our level best to be a responsible corporate citizen and if the wisdom of our political leadership is to put in a ca

>> a new book out by the heartland institute. roosters of the apocalypse. >> one of my favorite titles i must tell you. roosters that the apocalypse is about environmental policy and really the chicken little syndrome when it comes to global warming alarmists on. there are the chicken little is in the people that examined the science. and understand the climate of courses changing but probably not catastrophic and man's impact is not nearly as bad as a lot of people think. this is by ray isaac. her first book with a good that is brand-new and will be coming out. >> jim lakely is the director of the heartland institute. your website? >> heartland.org. .. democrats. which, to me, means they are dissatisfied with the system and dissatisfied with the two-party. i've been covering politics for a long time, and i wanted to address this. i wanted to get at what are these voters looking for? who are these voters? what do they care about? what to do what? how can we fix things? because i don't think anyone could say that we -- our system

vehicle owners are following on the company's stop funding and supporting the heartland institute the now infamous think tank that wants to make global warming denying a part of school curriculum since two thousand and ten g.m. has contributed thirty thousand dollars to heartland and reaction to the petition by customers g.m.'s director of policy greg martin said that the hard way is this institute gives careful and considerate thought to complex policy issues yeah right now it's nice to see how more and more americans are becoming aware of the problems of corporate greed in our society and our government g.m. could be one corporation it decides to listen to the customer and not the bottom line. so bad the t.s.a. it was another rough p.r. week for the t.s.a. on wednesday t.s.a. agents said louis airport in hawaii forced a woman to prove that her breast pump was real by making her use it in the women's restroom after publicly humiliating the woman the t.s.a. apologized for what they called a big misunderstanding and then on saturday t.s.a. officials at j.f.k. airport in new york a lot

i also think the heartland institute, until, does other things. and i find this interesting. i will go any further but i'm going to take another look at it when i get back to detroit. i will leave it at that. [laughter] >> we had a lot of conversation sure, a lot of companies think you but will there be a price on carbon someday. a lot of markets around the world in europe, your global conference, europe has a price on carbon very low. australia went on carbon tax. china is moving in that direction. when you think there'll be a price on carbon and how will that affect your planning for general motors selling cars around the world? >> you know, when i was a midshipman in the naval academy we are told yes or no, sir, i will find out, sir. [laughter] so i don't know. i actually think, i don't know. >> lots of people have metrics and scenarios. >> all i got to say is, i try to be very pragmatic. we have to allow for all possibilities, and we have, we were an active participant in willing participants in cafÉ standards this year. we are going to do our level best to be a corporate

institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> i am overwhelmed by the number of folks here. this is just awesome. it is great to be here in southern illinois where the heartland really begins here in the state of illinois. thank you very much for coming out. thank you. what are we going to do on tuesday? are we going to have a big win on tuesday? what do you think? [cheers and applause] >> thank you so so much for being here. i appreciate the hospitality of the company making this -- we need to get closer. is that better? ok. just let me know what i need to do. beat obama something you guys are saying? well, let me tell you, the best chance to beat barack obama is to nominate somebody who can actually take it to barack obama on his horrible record as president of the united states and the best way to do that is to make sure we don't have someone who agrees with that horrible record as president of the united states. that's why i decided to get into this race. karen and i, she's not here with me, i know. i know you getting the short end of the stick here getting me not my wife. but karen and i have been married 21 years, we have seven children, we are very ble