you're now cnbc contributor and former clinton white house aide keith boykin and heather higgins and r brooks, former deputy assista assistantant and now a member of the heritage foundation. heather in, terms of national security requests, what michael haden told us yesterday, former nsa head, they had 300 last year, 300. part of kagill iion collections >> what snowden first did when he spoke about this, made it sound like they were listening in on phone calls, they weren't. they were looking at meta data, the same data deciding and sorting out what ads you're going to receive. all of the aspects of this have that have been legal and publicly discussed for years that have survived aclu challenges in courts, et cetera. >> right. >> and contrasting the decision, for example, of cambridge not to turn on the surveillance cameras and so not look at the bits of data that really are public information. people forget that this information, this is not a private phone call that they are having in terms of the fact of they are having it. >> they don't even -- the nsa part doesn't even go after