jones. david, i'm coming to you. >> okay. >> can you explain that? >> you know -- >> heather nauert and d-day? >> i'll give her a break. >> once or twice in your illustrious career. i used to work with heather and do tv spots with her and she's very nice. i don't see her as having the foundation that you usually want in a u.n. ambassador. you think about samantha power, susan rice, daniel patrick moynihan. >> madeleine albright. >> these are people who know foreign policy, they know history, and to think of her sitting down with the russians or the chinese in a situation like susan rice had to do when they were trying to get u.n. approval for humanitarian intervention in libya and deal with them, i don't see her having the foundation to do that. then again, you know, i assume she will be taking her marching orders from john bolton who used to be ambassador to the u.n. and mouthing whatever he says. it may make it very hard for her to be in the sessions when she has to keep running out to call john bolton to figure out what to say next. >> and to make matters worse, if you will, it's no longer -- it's being downgraded f