heather macdonald is the author of a book called "the war on cops" which states cold, hard facts aboutrime in america. o again, the protesters did not want to hear what she had to say.ab she joins us now. so you did give your speech to pretty much an empty room. because these protesters were physically blocking students from getting in in to see you, is that correct? >> right. they stood outside the windows. it was a very big window,, banging on the window during my talk. there were people like police officers inside. they were not watching me. they were riveted by what was happening outside, so i had to talk over black lives matter and racism and the pounding. >> bill: there is no crowd control on the campus at claremont mckenna. they cannot push them back at a decent place so you could give your talk and people could listen to it? >> they had police officers there, but apparently when students demanded to just go through the police presence, p they took over, and i think this is a reflection. j >> bill: they didn't stop them. were they campus police or town police? >> a combination o

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liz: heather macdonald. did any academics step up to support you? >> everybody uses hyperbole.his is sort of caricature. i'm not going to object to it. but it's preposterous. none of these kids have had a driveby shooting in their family. and if they did they would call the police. and the second thing they would say is why was that thug still on the streets and not in prison. but there were no faculty. the head of the institute that invited me a day before my speech did say he expected civility and he tried to his credit to give a neutral description of my views. liz: you had a problem with ucla and berkeley and nyu. >> this an ideology much victimology. students are being taught they are victims in an oppressive society. give me a break. this is the most privileged position. it results in the ideology that they have a right to shut down speech that they believe is literally violence against them. they couldn't care less what the content is. think your large cap equity fund has exposure to energy infrastructure mlps? think again. it's time to shake up your lineup. the alerian

heather macdonald. speech because she is pro police andpe they blocked the entrances and no one on the right or left should accept this. we have to stand up. lou: the institutions certainly shouldn't. let's turn to united's ceo, carlos munoz. on "good morning america." he's getting his apologies a little more sincere. by next tuesday he will have that down. what a mess he made of this. mollie: it couldn't happen to a nicer airline. this. it resonated with many people the indignity of airline travel. they should have hand this very easily by upping how much they were willing to compensateey people for getting additionalsi seats on the plane. they could have offered them more money. plane. instead it will cost them sold much more in how it hit their stock price and how much theyt r will have to pay out to this man and other people on the plane. mike: the federal government regulates how much they can pay out. mollie: they regulate the floor if you are involuntarily bumped. i think it's a poorly writtene l

heather macdonald.use she is pro police and they blocked the entrances and no one on the right or left should accept this. we have to stand up. lou: the institutions certainly shouldn't. let's turn to united's ceo, carlos munoz. on "good morning america." he's getting his apologies a little more sincere. by next tuesday he will have that down. what a mess he made of this. mollie: it couldn't happen to a nicer airline. it resonated with many people the indignity of airline travel. they should have hand this very easily by upping how much they were willing to compensate people for getting additional seats on the plane. they could have offered them more money. instead it will cost them so much more in how it hit their stock price and how much will have to pay out to this man and other people on the plane. mike: the federal government regulates how much they can pay out. mollie: they regulate the floor if you are involuntarily bumped. i think it's a poorly written regulation. if you want to voluntarily get

heather macdonald, manhattan institute.

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the effort to shut down speakers like heather macdonald, talking about blue lives matter.tuation which is fascinating and that if you actually have to opt in and have to argue to have the american flag present at student senate meetings. and their argument is that everyone's view of what the united states is is different. and here's i think with the problem is, we've got a dynamic now, we've got young people who are going to college, who are effectively not having to pay for it, who view america as an oppressor state. this is a statement that they view obviously america as the problem. they don't want to be associated with it, and i can guarantee you that these are individuals who also have federal loans, federai student loans, were probably on state grants and perhaps even on alumni grants as well. if the nation is so offensive to them, which they argue effectively it is, then perhaps they shouldn't enjoy federal loans paid for with american tax dollars. so we're looking, i think, at a group, a generation if you will, at the stage now, certainly thet millennials, that hav

they called me the white supremacist, racist, fascist heather macdonald.hey surround dollars the building where i was supposed to speak. prevented any students from entering of the real issue is not only are they shutting me down but they are using bruit force to prevent other people from hearing a point of view that is basically not allowed on campuses. clayton: what was your point of view? what was so outrageous that they shut you down? >> my outrageous point of view is that there is no government agency more dedicated to the proposition that black lives matter than the police. and that the police have saved tens of thousands of minority males over the last two decades thanks to constitutional proactive policing. pete: that sounds like a very -- fascist. >> white pressroom cyst nationalist. pete: cops protect people white or black doesn't matter did. have you a chance to interact with any protesters? what would you say to them if did you? >> i would say go to the inner city and talk to the law abiding residents there who are desperate for police protecti