host: joining us from toledo, ohio is heather mcdonald. she is here to talk about the effects of policing after civil unrest and rioting in ferguson and other incidents and the state of the criminal justice system. thanks for being with us. guest: thank you so much for having me. in a we saw your article national review, welcome to post ferguson policing, that you wrote back in august. the term has come into more usage in the past week or two. when you hear the term, when you wrote about it, what did you mean? guest: i meant the fact that police are backing off from proactive policing. the type of discretionary policing that fbi director rightly identified as the key to the historic crime drop that this nation has enjoyed over the last 20 years. these are the type of discretionary stops going up as director, he said 1:00 a.m. on a drug corner, somebody seems to be hitting up a gun and getting out of your car and asking if you questions. police are not backing off of mandatory responses to 911 calls. do theircontinuing to duty, but the type

joining us from toledo, ohio is heather mcdonald. host: here to talk to us this morning about the effects of policing after civil unrest and rioting in ferguson and other incidents, police-related incidents. and the state of the criminal justice system. thanks for being with us. guest: thank you so much for having me. in a we saw your article national review, welcome to post ferguson policing, that you wrote back in august. the term has come into more usage in the past week or two. when you hear the term, when you wrote about it, what did you mean? guest: i meant the fact that police are backing off from proactive policing. the type of discretionary policing that fbi director rightly identified as the key to the historic crime drop that this nation has enjoyed over the last 20 years. these are the type of discretionary stops going up as director, he said 1:00 a.m. on a drug corner, somebody seems to be hitting up a gun and getting out of your car and asking if you questions. police are not backing off of mandatory responses to 911 ca

heather mcdonald fellow manhattan institute. officers will till. they think there is more guns on the street. >> mcdonald contend more gns coincide with he this end of stop and frisk. commissioner bratton says that is not true. i don't see that. that we are seeing with he this fire stops, with the fewer summons that we are stopping the >> thand was our are zachary reporting. p mean type, a pedestrian was killed, three others injured wean car flipped over to a sidewalk. this is flatbush brokering even along flatbush avenue. the vehicle appeared to have north carolinad over a tree then left ehine a trail of debris there. police still investigating the cause of that crash. >> all right. a bomb brought down a jetliner packed with metro tourist. that metrojet killed 224 people. , sha since depended flights in egypt. investigators now look mooing the possibility that a pom was smuggled onboard by a airport momentee with ties to isis. >> the president of the university of missouri and the head of the flagship campus resigned today after several racially ch

other incidents, police related incidents and also the state of the criminal justice system, heather mcdonald, thank you for being with us. >> thank you so much for having me. i appreciate it. >> we saw your article on the national review and we welcome you. the issue has come into more usage in the past week or two after some comments from the fbi director. when you hear that term and when you wrote about it, what did you mean? >> i missed the fact that police are backing off from proactive policing. the type of discretionary policing that the gentleman identified as the key to the historic crime drop this nation has enjoyed over the past 20 years. these are the type of discretionary stocks and someone seems to be hitting up the gun, getting out of your car and asking if you've westerns, police are not backing off of mandatory responses to 9/11 calls and they are continuing to do their duty. but the type of proactive policing that has been the target of a lot of police protests over the last year, officers are backing away from that. >> james conley picked up on that term as well and comment

on the next "washington journal," heather mcdonald looks at whether law enforcement has become more difficult since the riots in ferguson and baltimore. becky pringle talks about standardized testing. tom scully discusses the increase in the number of retirees. as always, we take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> all persons having his this before the honorable the supreme court are admonished to draw near and give their attention. >> this week on c-span's "landmark cases," we will discuss the historic case of schenck versus the notice states. in 1917, the united states entered world war i, patriotism was high, and some forms of criticism of the federal government were a federal offense. schenck handed out flyers against the draft. of this wereies produced and the point was to encourage men reliable for the draft not to register. the language is particularly fiery. he equates conscription with slavery and calls on every citizen in the note states to resist -- in the united states to resist conscription laws. he was arrested and convicted under the espion

esteemed senators, my name is heather mcdonald. i'm a fellow at the manhattan institute, a think tank in new york city. i'm honored to address you. for the last year, the nation has been convulsed by an organization known as black lives matter. the greatest threat facing young men today and that the criminal justice system is racially biased. cops are now routinely called racists and murderers. policing dangerous areas have been become dangerously fraught. president obama has done little for the black lives matter movement. indeed, he's amplified them over the last year. speaking in new york city this may, for example, the president claimed, quote, young black men experienced being treated differently by law enforcement, in stops and in arrests, and in charges and incarcerations, end quote. in fact, there is no government agency more dedicated to the proposition that black lives matter than the police. tens of thousands of black lives have been saved, thanks to the data-driven policing revolution that began in the 1990s in new york

earlier in terms of the ferguson effect, wesley told me the first person who used that term is heather mcdonalde a person who's known for her racist reactionary writings and provide nounsmen-- pronouncements. creating a myth that people are afraid of to promote social repressive policies. >> you have to understand there's been proof and data that you can reduce incarceration rates and also reduce crime at the same time. one does not relate to the other. you don't have to have mass incarceration to reduce crime. in new jersey that's happened. in california that's happened. in many states in america crime has reduced and incarceration levels has reduced at the same time. there's opportunity to do that through jobs, through social programs, and everything. >> the president even said in that same address he was saying that you have to make sure that young people have a set of possibilities in front of them. stick with us, we have so much more to get to. more voices at the table to bring in, including the confrontation of black lives matter activists and hillary clinton. >>> but after the break, i'm

tomorrow on the program, heather mcdonald from the manhattan institute will be on.olicing in the u.s., post ferguson, will be the topic. we have rebecca shabad coming up next from cbs news. she will talk to us about the house and senate passing this billion budget deal. it also raises the debt ceiling. people think as deep as we can dig as deep as we can. openshe third exchange out. we will get to perspective on the affordable care act, and an overall update on the log. be right back. ♪ >> being ladylike does not require silence. why should my husband's job, or from beingent us ourselves? i do not believe that being first lady should prevent me from expressing my ideas. [applause] >> betty ford spoke her mind, was pro-choice, and a supporter of the equal rights movement. for much of her family's public life, she struggled with drug and alcohol dependency, confronting her addiction to find her post white house years. c-span'sd, tonight on original series, "first ladies: influence and image." from martha washington to michelle obama. tonight at 8:00 eastern on america

mcdonald, we'll begin with you. >> esteemed senators my name is heather mcdonald.m a fellow at the manhattan institute, a think tank in new york city. i'm honored to address you. for the last year, the nation has been convulsed by an organization known as black lives matter. the greatest threat facing young men today and that the criminal justice system is racially biased. cops are now routinely called racists and murderers. policing dangerous areas have been become dangerously fraught. president obama has done little for the black lives matter movement. indeed, he's amplified them over the last year. speaking in new york city this may, for example, the president claimed, quote, young black men experienced being treated differently by law enforcement, in stops and in arrests, and in charges and incarcerations, end quote. in fact, there is no government agency more dedicated to the proposition that black lives matter than the police. tens of thousands of black lives have been saved, thanks to the data-driven policing revolution that began in the 1990s in new york ci

heather mcdonald who is the thomohomas w smith fw at the manhattan institute and contributing editor of "city journal." a graduate of yale, cambridge and stanford university law school. ms. mcdonald's writings on policing, profiling, criminal justice reform and race relations have appeared in a wide variety of respected publications over the years. sherrilin ifill is director of the naacp educational fund. a graduate of vassar college and the nyu school of law. she's also worked for the aclu, served as a professor at the maryland school of law and published a book on the legacy of lynching in the 21st century. mr. john p. walters is the chief operating officer at the hudson institute, a graduate of michigan state and the university of toronto, mr. walters served for seven years in the george w. bush administration as a cabinet member and the director of the white house office of national drug control policy. before that he worked in the department of education during the reagan administration. dr. cedric alexander, currently serving as the chief of police for dekalb county, georgia.

heather hegedus shows us how he saved a life in a mcdonald's bathroom. >> that good samaritan just happened to be going through the mcdonald's drive through and it happens he just received narcan training, he bought his own dose, and had it on him and because of that, that young woman is alive. >> i have checked the pulse, i checked her neck, her wrist, i gave her -- to the chest and top of the lips to see if there's any movement. there wasn't. >> he was in the right place at the right time. and had been trained in something that's relatively simple to use but that up until recently, only first responders had. >> and i'm keeping this as a reminder, you know, it works. >> alfred riviera is talking about the overdose reversing drug narcan. you might wonder why a library maintenance worker and grandfather carries it around. he tells me, he's seen people overdose right on the street. >> we have an epidemic of opiate in fitchburg and everywhere else. narcan training program that's open to the public. he then bought a dose with his own money. less than 48 hours later, he happened to be at this fi

. >> mark: new at 5:30 p.m., heather hegedus spoke with that man and joins us live at the mcdonald's where it happened and you also spoke with experts about how more hand more people are being trained to use these drugs. >> the reporter: true statement, mark. this woman was in the bathroom at the mcdonald's and was fortunate because this worker cuss -- training in the overdose drug. fitchburg library maintenance worker alfred riviera carries narcan in his pocket every day. >> i always carry it with me because he an epidemic of opiate in fitchburg and everywhere else. >> alfred recently seen people overdose right on the street. last wednesday, he took the initiative to go to a free training program at the community health connector, teaching how to administer narcan. he then bought a dose of the overdose reversing drug, with his own money. less than 40 hate hours later, he was using it. -- 48 hours later, he was using it. he was at this fitchburg mcdonald's when a woman was discovered on the bathroom floor unconsciousism e. there was 10 to 13 people inside, no one knew how to use it.

heather: the family of a man killed in a freak accident in natick will gather for thanksgiving tomorrow in his memory. 73-year-old ken mcdonald was the to his wife for 43 years. the vietnam vet was rundown when a car lost control in the parking lot of a shopping center. witnesses say the car hit a curb, went airborne then hit three men walking out of a tool store. two pedestrians who survived suffered critical injuries. >> it is tough to see people die. heather: two pedestrians who survived suffered critical injuries. the 88-year-old framingham woman behind the wheel was also injured. heather: the search is on for a hit-and-run driver who struck a police officer in worcester. sky 5 over the scene midmorning on grafton street. the officer was working a detail when he was hit. he was taken to the hospital with a minor injury and released. ed: accuse of selling cower fit and stolen items. the two moment gres are the first arrest under a new law targeting organized retailed crime. the owner would actually request certain items be stolen from so you could resell them in her store. >> this has been a history of shoplift who have be

introducing mcdonald's new all once, you changed how you it's time to start ed: it is a place many homeless veterans turn to for much-needed services. heather: as kathy curran tells us, some veterans believe that the center is leaving our soldiers behind the -- behind. what you will find some of the most vulnerable men and women who served our country' s taking shelter at the new england center for homeless veterans. where they promise them a safe, warm place to stay. >> none of that has come through. >> bedbug infestation. >> we took a look at city records from the past 2.5 years. boston police for reports including illegal drugs, assault, and illegal firearms. more than 400 emergency medical calls last year. other records show the center is infested with bedbugs. there are roaches in the kitchen, rats in the basement, and mice. steve kelly is an army veteran who has been renting a room here for four years. >> many veterans really need help and do not go there because the conditions are so bad. the general condition of our living areas, certainly not luxurious. they are not palatial, but they meet standards of sanitation. of the center tha

mcdonald. mat finn live for us in chicago at the cook county courthouse. matt, what do we expect to happen today? reporter: heatherthe 14 year police veteran, jason van dyke will be in court second time after first turning himself in last week. the judge will decide if he can be released on bail. what is interesting here, the judge is factoring in the shocking dash-cam video shows van dyke shooting 17-year-old laquan mcdonald 16 times last year. that was not available when van dyke was first charged with murder. van dyke maintains his client is innocent. fraternal order of police organize ad bail fund for van dyke. considering he is charged on first-degree murder, that bail figure if set could be very high, heather. heather: matt, there have been a lot of protests in chicago last week. are you seeing any there today? reporter: heather, no protesters in sight so far although it is fairly early and cold. there is heightened sense of security. there are signs in the courthouse saying every bag will be checked and there are squad cars all over. heather? heather: matt finn live in chicago. thank you. bill: the city of