heather mcdonald was just silence. she was censored by google.oined us next. ♪ >> tucker: the richest people in the world, america's tech oligarchs are effectively working for the joe biden for president campaign. they are doing their part by censoring anything that counters the official line, anything that might help biden. that is why youtube, google hazard the topic of policing headed by heather mcdonald. >> the idea that police are wantonly killing black men is a creation of a politicized press and an elite establishment dedicated to the idea that racism is america's defining trait. >> tucker: they fear heather mac donald because heather mac donald knows the numbers because she rode a terrific book on it called "the war on cops." tell us how you were censored and how you think you were censored, if you would. heather, i'm not -- i don't know if heather mac donald can hear us. >> i can hear you. >> tucker: oh, great. tell us how you were censored by google and why you think they censored you. >> in 1860, frederick douglass said free speech was

guest: we have a number of scholars who work on policing and criminal justice issues including heather mcdonaldrafael, jim copeland, among others. we have journalists who work on this set of issues as well, so there is, as you might expect, a range of opinions. we always want to encourage our scholars to go where their ideas take them, provided they are confident, with our deep belief in the central importance of public safety, and i say, when you are looking at this moment and looking to the future, it is very important to keep in mind that effective policing is vitally important. you can change society in any number of different ways, but effective policing, that sense of public safety is a foundation for economic growth or a flourishing civil society and everything else we care about. so then the question is what are the policies that will deliver more effective policing over time? there are many thoughtful people who offer different perspectives on that set of issues but one thing i am personally very concerned about right now is that there is a sense in which we are demanding more from pol

wall street journal" that mcdonald's former head of human resources is now emerging as a focus of the investigation. joining us now for more is the author of that report, heather hadden from "wall street journal. thank you for joining us this saga is unbelievable. it is unusually public getting pretty heated between the former ceo and the company what is your reaction to the company airing this dirty laundry? >> it's unusual for the issues to come out so publicly off a board of a major company will handle these kind of matters quietly. mcdonald's has taken this strong stance to claw back severance that they paid to steve easterbrook, the former ceo after he first stepped down from the company in november. so they this lawsuit with a number of allegations against him including sexual relationships he had in the company. now that investigation is on going. the company tells us the and so it's also looking to allegations that mr. easterbrook covered up other improprieties of employees it's looking into the hr department for the company more broadly. and meanwhile, this lawsuit is playing out. so mr. easterbrook's attorney responded about two weeks ago saying that