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joining me now are michelle goldberg, "the new york times" opinion columnist, and heather mcgee, author of the color of us. and michelle, i'm so eager to talk about what's happening here. michelle, let me start with you. we spent the last segment of show talking about the fear this community is living in because of it lies trump and vance have been spreading. what's so stunning is the degree to which they're completely detaching themselves from the truth and openly embracing the great replacement theory that black and brown people are here to destroy the country and take it away from you. >> it's appalling but not stunning. i think it's been part of trump's strategy from the time he came down that elevator. and what's interesting is even the republicans in springfield, the mayor is republican. there's a republican governor. there's -- there was a story about a trump supporter who at first accused haitians of stealing her cat, then she found her cat, which was like in the basement and used a google translator to go next door and apologize to them. so there's a level of decency even among

joining me now is michelle goldburg and heather mcgee, author of the sum of us and the chair of the boardnge. michelle and heather. i'm so eager to talk to you about what exactly is happening here. michelle i want to start with you. we spent the last segment on the show talking about a person on the ground in springfield because of with the lies that trump and vance have been spreading. what's stunning to me is how they've been openly embracing the replacement period that black and brown people are here to destroy the country and take it away from you. >> it's appalling but not stunning. it's been part of the trump strategy since he came down that elevator. and what's interesting is that even the republicans in springfield, you know the mayor is a republican. there's a republican governor. there was a story about a trump supporter who at first accused haitians of stealing her cat. then she found her cat which was like in the basement. and used a google translator to go next door and apologize to them. so there's a level of decency even among some of the maga types in that area that you ar