host: heather mcghee? guest: great. did want to address the anti-asian resentment -- resentment against asian-american wealth. the statistic is true. i will say the asian community is a bunch of different communities and there are big disparities within the asian-american community. we do not have time for me to go all the way into the history of immigration laws and how in the 1960's the first wave it had to d educated. that has shaped the immigration patterns. it is also true that there are systems of community support and community finance that are often tied to home countries for asian immigrants that are not as robust in african and latin american countries. that said, the main point of the most recent caller from new york is sometimes all of the best intentions don't work. i think that really progressives and good government people have been very focused on this question of how do you design a programs and initiatives so that the dollar does go to the last. so that people who need the things the most are actually

host: heather mcghee? guest: great. did want to address the anti-asian resentment -- resentment against asian-american wealth. the statistic is true. i will say the asian community is a bunch of different communities and there are big disparities within the asian-american community. we do not have time for me to go all the way into the history of immigration laws and how in the 1960's the first wave it had to d educated. that has shaped the immigration patterns. it is also true that there are systems of community support and community finance that are often tied to home countries for asian immigrants that are not as robust in african and latin american countries. that said, the main point of the most recent caller from new york is sometimes all of the best intentions don't work. i think that really progressives and good government people have been very focused on this question of how do you design a programs and initiatives so that the dollar does go to the last. so that people who need the things the most are actually

and head of color of change heather mcghee. she is also the author of the sum of us.when i saw the huffington post reported, your whole book is about this racialized suspicion that someone somewhere is going to get away with something or get some of them and if it. it ends up costing us the dream full of politics. and in this case it just seems so apparent. the think that joe manchin is worried about. and this is not public. privately telling other lawmakers that someone somewhere is going to buy drugs or fake sickness so no one can have them. >> that's right. even though we know that their benefits to everyone. there are benefits that are still over consequence. beyond the affected families. as you said, 92% of the families in west virginia, a vast majority of them, wide and this is a benefit particularly for the child tax credit that goes way off the incomes scale. this is a recognition that is extensive to raise a child. and in every one of our peer industrialized nations do much more in terms of helping families do well and thrive. and the thing is, this is not ov

the former president heather mcghee examines the cost of racism for all americans. and she's interviewed by khalil gibran muhammad. >> i'm so excited to be here today with heather mcghee, someone of whom i'm a huge fan. i got to know her when she was the president of demos and everything she's done there and since i've been incredibly inspired by. i think she's a one of the fiercest thinkers and doers in our countries now and i'm so delighted to have the opportunity to sit down with her and talk about the fabulous new book she's written. this book, what racism costs everyone and how we can prosper together. thank you, heather for doing this work and for being who you are in the world. >> thank you so much for saying all that. and i'm a huge fan, with so much respect, and with so much of my thinking. >> this is exciting conversation for me. >> it's an incredible moment and i have a question later on about covid writing because i think you must have done a fair amount of it, but we'll get to that. i think the first thing that would be really great for the viewers is t

heather mcghee examines the cost of racism for all americans in her book, "the sum of us.""the code breaker," biographer walter isaacson looks at the inverdict of a dnc -- inventernv of a dna technology. and malcolm gladwell looks at the development of precision bombing during world war ii. and in how i saved the world, fox news commentator jesse watters provides a critique of left-wing activists and their policies. and wrapping up our look at some of the best selling books of 2021, it's "the washington post"'s bob woodward and robert costa's report on the report of the transition between the trump and biden administration. their book which came out this fall was called "peril." all of these authors have appeared on booktv. you can watch their programs anytime atnd our web site, booktv.org. and that's this week's publishing news and the latest nonfiction books. thanks for joining us on "about books." "about books" is available as a podcast at c-span now, which is our new app, or wherever you get your podcasts. happy holiday season to you. we'll be back in january with anoth

the former president heather mcghee examines the cost of racism for all americans. and she's interviewed by khalil gibran muhammad. >> i'm so excited to be here today with heather mcghee, someone of whom i'm a huge fan. i got to know her when she was the president of demos and everything she's done there and since i've been incredibly inspired by. i think she's a one of the fiercest thinkers and doers in our countries now and i'm so delighted to have the opportunity to sit down with her and talk about the fabulous new book she's written. this book, what racism costs everyone and how we can prosper together. thank you, heather for doing this work and for being

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