and hedley donovan says i'm so glad we found somebody from out there because everybody so far we seemto have hired, seems to be from harvard and oxford. so i laughed, thinking he's making a joke. he says, where did you go to college? i laughed again, thinking he's making a joke. all of a sudden jason who had brought me up sort of nervously as the genie. so i kind of sad, harvard, but i made it sound like auburn. and he actually from then i never brought me to see hedley donovan again, but i think he thought for the rest of time that i've gone to auburn. [laughter] one of the things we try to do because of that was when i became editor of "time" magazine it was true that you get isolated as a journalist, especially in the state capitol. so we used to get a greyhound bus and drive route 50 across america, stopping at pta meetings and town halls and bowling alleys and rotary club practice, so that people could get a sense on really what was on people's minds. the last trip we took instead of doing the bus trip, we rented something that always wanted to do, a boat and went from panama mis