secretary hegel did mention this . about is they talk greater reliance on prototyping. >> if is that important? ,ou look at the budget profile our system engineering and engineering manufauring design have fallen by 100% since the middle of last a decade. ourhat is where we fund engineer design teams. we're not going to be buying a lot of new systems until we get through the budget control act. i can exercise design teams. ofof that of the most important part of systems engineering. the folks who actually made -- make something work. prototypes lot of and exercise a lot of engineers. >> you published asus inked but impactful document in your international strategy. of what u want to see from our >> we mention the technical areas. what we want for the allies is to come together and develop prototypes or demonstrations early. of one of the tenants of our defense strategy as we will not operate without our allies. i believe that to be true. if we are going to operate with our allies we need to be inoperable. a it is easie

no doubt this will be a discussion between secretary hegel and his counterpart. a helpful role? because they have concerns just like other partners in the they arear admiral expending their effort energy in [indiscernible] >> why does the united states keep launching airstrikes at that location? sil keepse i trying to take it back. >> secretary kerry wrote in the new york times that he and secretary hegel will be germanic forion -- will be asking help in this campaign. how many nations will they be approaching, and what help with ask for in building that coalition? togetherstill putting an agenda for on the sidelines of the nato summit. secretary kerry and secretary hegel do want to get together with some of these partner nations. allies,them are nato and i do not have a list right now. this is going to be more of an informal arrangement. of a very fulls .genda on wales i do not have a date or a time when they're going to do that, but we're looking for those opportunities. it could be more than one. smaller numbers of nations and a time. do they want partners for industries, do

to pose a threat to the facility, we are going to continue to hit them, and we will. >> secretary hegelill be asking nato allies and other nations for help in this potential campaign against isis in syria. how much more can you tell me about it? which ones, and what they will ask for specifically? >> i think we are still putting together an agenda here, phil, for the nato summit, but you are right, secretary hegel and secretary kerry want to get together with some partner nations. allies, ofm are nato course, and i don't have a list right now. i think this is going to be more of an informal relationship. again, on the sidelines of the already very full agenda on -- will try to get together and talk about the contributions that have been made by these other nations, and certainly to encourage others who have not been to be did yet to look at intuiting, as well, but i do not have a date certain on the calendar or time that they will do that, but we are looking for those opportunities, and it could be more than one. it could be that they have these discussions in more than one setting with

. >> i mean, you have hegel. you have marx. you have kant.those prevailing ideas, they're in german. >> you want to read hegel and kant in german? >> yes. >> es gibt ein millionen. >> salih israel, by the way, is serving 20 to 40 years for shooting a woman in the course of a robbery. >> it may be that the difference between a marshland and a wetland and a swamp is actually physical. >> what do you say to somebody who says you should be learning a trade, some vocational training, instead of all this philosophy? >> a vocational program might give you skills to have a job, but it's not gonna give you skills to have a life. >> joe bergamini is in prison because he took a life, his own mother's. >> "that thomas jefferson..." >> reshawn hughes shot and killed a man. he was far from being college material. how much education had you had before you were incarcerated? >> actually, i'd never read a book until i came to prison. >> you'd never read a book. >> never read a book. >> now he says he hopes to continue his education until he gets his phd. >> "

that actual quotation comes from hegel who died in the 1850's. that was translated by one of the great intellectuals, a socialist and he simplified hegel a great lesson of history is that mankind learns nothing. so what do you adopt it to see going around you? >>. >> with those live stream people what you think that the gun laws are dismissed as an exaggeration with the mainstream media. [laughter] would you go on the internet that hitler was the gun owner's best friend but in the year 2000 and published the first with this subject from professor herb bernard that said basically why do want you disarm and kill the jews? but other than that, isn't that enough? [laughter] he was a friend of the national socialist power and to occupy countries and kill other people without was to disarm and kill others. if you go on the internet you will see the same line of reasoning that the nazis made for everybody do it tonight. you will see it. i promise. >> earlier in your talk you mention something and not remember reading and i find it fascinating about u.s.

. >> are you concerned, secretary hegel, about our southern border? we received testimony that our border is porous and radical elements may cross into the united states from the southern border? >> and, again, in a segment yesterday on fox news -- >> people along the border were the trail to these people come across have found muslim clothing, they have found koran books laying on the side of the road -- or the side of the trail. we know that there are muslims being smugged into the united states. i'd like to hit them so often that every time they hear a plane, they your nate down both sides of their legs. >> that was unusually pointed. michael, how did this idea start to gain traction? >> well, some conservatives are very focused on the border. and a group called judicial watch put out a group last week right out of the border prepared to launch car bombs on the united states. they put out that report and people believed that it was true. >> that's a pretty strong claim that there are isis militants living across the border. >> they base that on ano

lou: then with apparent ease and total conviction, secretary chuck hegel articulated very clearly the approach that one would have expected the president of the united states to enunciate. what is that desk disconnect and what can we expect? >> i think that the central command headquarters has responsibility for this region, like all of our intelligence services. they have been tracking isis over these three years and so we need to understand that it comes out so easily and we need to destroy it. it's not a whole strategy, estonia is in a campaign plan. but it's reflective of a body of reflective of a body of work that they have party done. lou: the murder of two islamic hands on our american journalist. creating a third of the casualties in iraq whose sponsorship is staged terror continues. why in the world have we not heard the president speak so forcefully directly and mean what he had died. they convinced themselves one, we are going to get out of the wars in iraq and afghanistan and certainly we are not going to get involved in any more wars in the middle east and three, the worl

today, defense secretary chuck hegel landed in turkey's capital to meet with other top officials there the trip was, quote, really to see how farther willing to go to assist a u.s.-led coalition. one of the reasons that's been hard to figure out so far is because we, as a country, don't have an ambassador to turkey. really? with all of this going on in the world? nope? we don't have an ambassador to turkey. thank you, congress. since then, they've just sat in the senate leaving all of these hot spots around the world other than an ambassador. the obama administration realizing how important it is to get a fix for the american government on the ground there, especially right now, the obama add american strags has taken a remarkable step to send a temporary ambassador to turkey while it tries to get a full time one. they sent ross wilson during the george w. bush administration. he's just a place holder. he only got back to the region this past saturday. so the president is going to try to defeat isis this week. turkey is assuredly going to be key to that strategy. we have a huge ask and

secretary hegel previously claimed they are an imminent threat.this really the way that we want to enter a work? is it the way that we should enter the war? we are coming right back. it. ♪ lou: congress set to vote on funding, army combat training syrian rebels. is the islamic state the number one enemy of america? on the services and foreign on the services and foreign affairs committee member, you know what my business philosophy is, reynolds? no. not exactly. to attain success, one must project success. that's why we use fedex one rate. their flat rate shipping. exactly. it makes us look top-notch but we know it's affordable. [ garage door opening ] [ sighs ] honey, haven't i asked you to please use the -- we don't have a reception entrance. [ male announcer ] ship a pak via fedex express saver® for as low as $7.50. lou: joining us now, congressman mel brooks, a member of the house armed services and house foreign affairs committee. good to have you with us. your thoughts about going to war on the basis of the testimony that we all heard today?

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secretary hegel and kerry made it clear this they help for extensive nato support, as well. not necessarily support in delivering kinetic military activity. and secretary can he recall riff made it very clear that he understands the different nations have different appetites. >> sorry to press you on this, but if asked, this is what we'd like you to do. >> thank you for the clarification. >> i think the united states is well aware that this is a very sensitive subject in this country. and that we will want to look what kind of package and we will want to think very carefully and how we can most effectively contribute to that. what other allies are proposing to do and very carefully, about what position we should take. yesterday, in this kind of situation, clearly, this would be pre-meditated involvementment. >> if the rev was deployed, was it because they were going to make a strategic position? or would it be more of a political gesture of support than solidarity. >> i think different air forces have different niche capableties. s it's an extremely capable aircraft. >> can

administration, at least the defense department, set it out in your june 11 hearing when secretary hegel said the following. we complied with the law and we did what we believed was in the best interest of our country, our military and the sergeant. the president has constitutional responsibleties and authorities to protect american citizens and members of our armed forces. that's what he did. we don't leave american soldiers behind. i think everyone here is in agreement that the sergeant was returned safely. and, just for the record, i don't know all of the facts and a lot of people have said a lot of things and i don't even presume to know what's true. but common sense would tell me that, as an american, and knowing the views of the military and all of us being concerned about the views abroad are glad that this took place. my personal feeling 1 that the sergeant was worth a hell of a lot more than five people. and i understand the dynamics regarding they may very well be dangerous persons, some of the readout on them were their old men and not likely to be active in war. one could arg

we have had secretary hegel and general dempsey two weeks ago today say that there is an imminent threate had two beheadings. isis is a threat. we are not intimidated by you, america. you have 11 aircraft in libya that go missing. not to mention what may be a thousand americans or passport holders that are out there fighting for that islam is. general tom, thank you so much for joining us. the podium awaits president obama. it is in wales. he is about to hold a news conference. he will be holding a news conference. the president has yet to appear. the president does occasionally appear lead to these events. as we head towards the president press conference, i will tell you that the market is absolutely dead flat. the market wants to hear what the president will say. i will not forecast with the president may or may not say. a spirited attack on isis. i do not know what would happen to the stock burkett. it comes out and makes a very moderate statement. we are looking at the situation. i have no idea what the stock market will do. >> it talks more about coalition building. especially when

. >> secretary hegel will participate in the global health jurat agenda together with secretary virwellnd caroty. that will be hosted by ambassador rice. finally, i'd like to mention the workers on the ground, a hundred cdc experts on the ground like jordan who just returned from there. for their truly heroic efforts. we all owe them gratitude for the would recollect they're doing on the ground every day in west africa. thank you. >>. >> thank you, andy. thank you all. we're going to turn the discussion to ebola on the hill. before we get to specific -- specific questions about the response, because i think people really want to understand the nuances of their response from the leaders here chlts i just want to ask one more question if we get this wrong. you're beginning to paint the picture here. why is it important for us to invest so much of our time andal ent on this problem. and what happens if we get this wrong? usa today, their headline the other day was could the ebola epidemic go on forever: what are the consequences if we get this wrong? >> earlier in my career, i spent three

administration, at least the defense department, set it out in your june 11 hearing when secretary hegelid the following. we complied with the law and we did what we believed was in the best interest of our country, our military and the sergeant. the president has constitutional responsibleties and authorities to protect american citizens and members of our armed forces. that's what he did. we don't leave american soldiers behind. i think everyone here is in agreement that the sergeant was returned safely. and, just for the record, i don't know all of the facts and a lot of people have said a lot of things and i don't even presume to know what's true. but common sense would tell me that, as an american, and knowing the views of the military and all of us being concerned about the views abroad are glad that this took place. my personal feeling 1 that the sergeant was worth a hell of a lot more than five people. and i understand the dynamics regarding they may very well be dangerous persons, some of the readout on them were their old men and not likely to be active in war. one could argue

appreciate -- and i said this yesterday at the armed services meeting with general dempsey and secretary hegel that i appreciate the efforts of our men and women in the military to make a rescue attempt to free those men being held hostage. i have been troubled by the comments from the family that have been reported about their concern that they did not -- were not communicated with and did not have support from our government as they were trying to deal with the hostage situation for their son. and i wonder if you could -- well, let me rephrase this. i hope that posted the murders this administration and future administrations will seriously reassess what can better be done to support families who are dealing with this kind of a crisis. some of the reports have pointed out that there are other countries to have different ways of dealing with the families. i certainly hope that you will help in this effort as we look at how we can better support those families. >> well, senator -- excuse me. senator, first of all, let me begin by saying that i know how personally and deeply involved you are in