and, heidi beirich, who directs the southern poverty law center's intelligence project in montgomery, alabama. thank you both for joining us. congressman clyburn, how is charleston coping with this? >> well, charleston is coping very well. i think that the law enforcement people here, the mayor have both struck the right tone i think that the quick apprehension of the suspect in this case is serving this overall process very well. but the facts still remains-- people are wanting some answers to the question of why. why did this happen? was he acting alone? how did this church other than most historic african american church in charleston in south carolina, for that matter in the entire south, why did he pick this church? is he a part of something else beyond him? i think when we get the answers to these questions, this community will know better how to respond. >> ifill: you yourself, i believe are a member of the african methodist episcopal church. and you knew reverend pinckney. how would you describe the personal scope of this loss? >> well, i think the church service we had at noo