heidi hartman, for years people have complained about the old poverty line and how we arrive at it. basically taking the cost of food and people's incomes and coming up with a formula. this adds a lot more data into the determination. is it a better picture of who is poor in the country? >> absolutely. it's definitely a better picture. for one thing the new measures counting the non-cash been anys that people receive from the government such as food stamps. that was not counted before. so you would expect that to decrease the poverty rate as measured. but this new measure increases the poverty rate. that's because of some of the expenses now that are being counted that were not counted before. for example, for older americans, we're now counting medical expenses. those are very high for older americans so in this new measure we see more older americans poor. we're also counting work ex-spends so if you're a single mom who is working you're getting benefits measured that weren't being measured before. you're seeing your work expenses being counted, being deducted from your income. th