i recommend that you heidi heitkamp and amy klobuchar because a lot of it has to do with the dakotas and minnesota. host but what about eleanor. if you want to learn about the a little or a lot politics is a book you would recommend? >> guest: there's a lot of intelligence recommending to one of the staffers here city of the center. get the biggest kick out of this book. this is a 19th century history of chicago and it just tells the from its early days of settlement on three colombian exposition. people have read the white city, erik larson's book, that takes place at about the same area, 1893. they built this huge white city, but i think city of the center for such an eye-opener in terms of creating a city. it was a small town in the kind of grew just geometrically. at the end of the 19th century with railroads and central location and opening up the west. so i would start there. i think that's a good book to read. i read most of the books that paul simon wrote. he was prolific. when he ran for president they said of him, they said he has written more books than ronald reagan has r