mccaskill of missouri, jon tester of montana, heidi heitkamp of north dakota, and sherrod brown of ohio. those e the lks to watch today as the senate is set to co and weater this morning, should say bob casey of pennsylvania. those are the democrats to watch this morning to see what happens when the senate comes into session later today. george from west virginia, a democrat. what do you think? caller: can you hear me? host: yes. caller: i have one word, and then a comment. shut it down. how can you trust the republicans when they are talking about illegal immigrants? these are dreamers. these individuals came here through no fault of their own. we can go all the way down to march or april or until the time really runs out, but we could

heidi heitkamp of north dakota, and sherri brown in ohio. as well as bob casey in pennsylvania.nd debbie stabenow, the democrat from shaken. here are the democrats that voted yes -- five of them -- joe donnelly, senator heidi heitkamp , senator jones of alabama, as well as senator joe manchin and senator claire mccaskill. republicans able to get those states.m trump states where trump co won in 2016. look at the numbers of those 10 states where democrats are up for reelection. this is the percentage of trump's victory in those states. not able to get all of those democrats, but republicans did get five. as we noted earlier, they were not able to get all of their republicans either. let's talk public relations. the hashtag between trumpshutdown and schumershutdown. senator chuck schumer tweeting out this will be called the trump shut down. there is no one who deserves the this shutdown for more than the president. let's talk about the hashtags. in the last hour, there have been 8400 tweets with the hashtag #schumershutdown. 16,000 tweets with the hasthag #trumpshutdown. those are

sen heidi heitkamp (d-nd): we can build a $20b wall -- but if we don't solve this problem will not havesolved the problem with interdicting drugs. portman's report linked online sellers in china to seven opioid-related deaths in the united states. sen. rob portman (r-oh): how many people have to die in washington, i'm jessica smith. (pam) here is a closer look at how powerful deadly mudslides were in southern california. this shows c-h-p officers responsing to call.. unknowinly drove into part of the mudflow... they lost control, but luckily made it out safely. that was not the case for everyone. right now: there are still two people missing in montecito. in a story .... all new at ten: john palminteri reports .. police are bringing in some assistants to help with the search. voice of nelson trichler/santa barbara co. search and rescue: "it's a different environment when things dry out" the santa barbara county search and rescue team is still on a focused search for two missing persons in the montecito mudflow disaster:17 year old jack cantin and two year old lydia sutthithepa.the searc

we heard from her, lisa murkowski, heidi heitkamp, lindsey graham. they were being coy, failed to give detail on a proposal hammered out, but there is seemingly some agreement there of having a commitment to include immigration. what's the latest? >> some of the democrats went straightrom here tohuck scmer's office to continue the conversation with him. let me put together and try to give you what i think are the outlines here. first, this is the most optimism i've heard from senators of either party since before the shutdown started, that maybe, just maybe, they have something they can work with here. based on lindsey graham's comments, doesn't sound like they are talking about some new piece of legislation. what it sounds like is under discussion here is the idea that this bipartisan group could support voting for this piece of legislation that's on the floor, set for 1:00 vote, this three-week c.r., fund the government until february 8th, fund the c.h.i.p. program for six years. however, with their votes, sounds like what is being discussed is a s

there were five democrats voted yes, joe donnelly and heidi heitkamp. and doug jones, the new senator from alabama, and mccclaskill i missouri. they're moderate democrats so it was good for them to take. we'll have lindsey gram and rand paul and mitch mcconnell. you may say, mitch mcconnell propounded the vote, why is he saying no? what happens in the senate and say you get a deal you have to keep the bill alive and you have to be on the prevailing side of the vote. in this case the nos will prevail. mcconnel will vote no. they started at 10:13 and we're now at 11:24, a little more than an hour and mcconnel will be able to recall the vote at some point. say the government shuts down and has a lapse in funding. that's the term we should use at this hour. the house and senate don't have a deal, when they have a deal tonight, tomorrow or the weekend next week, you say wait a minute they kept some organizations open. things were being funded. how can they do that? article 1 section 9 of the constitution said you can't spend money without the appropriation o

about the mendez of new jersey, heidi heitkamp of north dakota and dianne feinstein of carolina. we are going to see what they are talking about inside the cabinet meeting room inside the white house right now with the president and the bipartisan group of senators. >> i think my positions are going to be with the people in this room come up with. i am very much reliant on the people in this room. i know most of the people on both sides have a lot of respect for the people on both sides, and what i approve is going to be very much reliant on what the people in this room come to me with. i have great confidence in. if they come to do with things that i'm not in love with, i'm going to do it. because i respect them. thank you all very much. i know her very well. i did one of her last shows. she had donald trump. her last week, and she had donald trump and my family was very nice. i like opera. i don't think she's going to ru run. i don't think she's going to ru run. i know her very well. it's phase two. i think comprehensive will be phase two. i really agree with that. we get one t

mccaskill of missouri, joe donnelly of indiana, joe manchin of west virginia, heidi heitkamp of west virginia, got owns of alabama, all of whom face those paths to reelection in their states. four republicans voting against them, senator graham in south carolina, mike lieff utah -- mie theiegh of utah, and senator not running again in arizona. big bear city, california, republican line, joanne. go ahead. caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i'm definitely in support, in regards to allowing for mandatory withholding of pay for every member of congress that has voted towards the, the congress -- i'm sorry, for the umm, the shutdown. i would like, if you can, if your station can put a list up all the democrats and everyone that has voted towards the shutdown, and to actually have their names but on their that would be wonderful for us to know who is shutting down our government. there's of the thoughts i have, in regards to daca -- there's other thoughts i have, in regards to daca and our budget. these are two separate issues. there shouldn't be anything tied to the budget. budget,

i mean on the democratic side, those who voted yes were joe donnelly, heidi heitkamp, doug jones, joe manchin, and claire mccaskill. carry on. >> exactly. the point being -- >> there's lindsey graham and chuck schumer on your screen. >> this is not some sort of democratic conspiracy to shut down the government. democrats have historically wanted to fund and keep the government operating. it's been traditionally the democrats who have done that in the face of opposition from republicans like ted cruz and newt gingrich in the past who have tried to shut down the government. what we have going on right now is a situation where we have a president who just said last may that we need a good government shutdown. he said that on twitter just last may. a president who said just seven years ago that if there is a shutdown, that the people don't care about whether it's the republicans or democrats in congress. they look to the president for leadership. we have a president who sold himself as being this master negotiator. >> i got it. listen, i'm going to say the same thing. again, we keep talki

heidi heitkamp suggesting that this vote potentially could be there are conversations back-and-forthetween republicans and democrats in the senate on immigration. i put this question to you. how long is this thing going to go on? rep. hensarling: you have to ask senator schumer. shutdown and only senator schumer knows when it will end. why do i say that, kevin? a majority of the house voted to keep the government open. a majority of the senate voted to keep the government open, but unfortunately it takes a super majority in the senate. democrats chose this shut down the government over an issue that has nothing to do with spending. this is a spending bill. down the chose to shut government over an issue that does not have a january deadline , does not have a february deadline, has a march deadline. meanwhile friday at midnight come our troops were told, by the way, report for duty, but senator schumer took you off the payroll. negotiation's are continuing as the american people are waking up to starting to feel the effects of what is probably more accurately described as a more parti

i think heidi heitkamp is in trouble.hey are in red states, in states where trump still remains popular despite what is going on. but i think the overall picture though, we have to look at it differently. one thing that happens with a wave is you don't know where it will crash. you don't know where it will run up to. ankd t and the most important number, we have the polls, but the most important number of all heading into the midterms is 25 to 26. that is the number of republican members of congress in the senate who have retired. people who are said i'm not going to spend the next ten months trying to wraz monraise when i'm going to lose. so those guys are walking into their grocery stores and hearing you guys are going out of here. so i think democrats are in danger, but republicans are looking at decimation. >> we'll have to end this. jason johnson and jason johnson, hopefully you will come back again. really appreciate it. >>> coming up at the top of the hour, new reaction to reports donald trump tried to fire robert

our guest host for the hour, north dakota senator heidi heitkamp which says "fargo" was from brainerd a difference you always say you betcha. i say there you go >> there you go. >> that's really good. >> that's kind of a different. >> if you don't like something you say that's different. >> you don't really criticizing. >> that's kind of interesting. >> kind of like bless his heart. >> she looked at my hair and said that's kind of interesting. let's get a check on the markets this morning up again, triple digits. at least they were jpmorgan reported. the dow component and it's been moving around, just barely triple digits now but we were up 200 yesterday. great start to the year so far is it -- it's the 12th, right, i think i got that right once i get the year, then i can't possibly get the right day but it's 2018 now. the futures on the s&p up just under 6 and the nasdaq is strong up 15. nasdaq having a great start to the month and the year treasuries which looked like they were -- yields were off to the races, they have moderated in recent sessions now 2.54 on the ten-year. >> and t

you saw heidi heitkamp and now they are putting pressure on other democrats. the white house press secretary has been tweeting with them saying get on board. but anderson, i just talk to a white house official in just the last few minutes about whether or not there might be the chance for some kind of alternative plan beyond this four-week cr that they have been talking about, whether a short-term cr could work. and this white house official was saying it was not likely to pass the house. what phil mattingly was saying, this is right. nobody wants to swallow a compromise tonight. >> that meeting with chuck schumer, did anything come out of it? >> reporter: we will have to see what happens when democrats get together in about a half an hour from now and i talked to a source on capitol hill a few moments ago. they don't believe there are enough democratic defections to get this resolution over the finish line and if that doesn't happen, in search of a plan b. white house official says they don't think the house is going to go for a short-term resolution. at this

jon tester and heidi heitkamp, how are they going to keep their seats have everything they do is againstd trump? are they going to sit back and try to shut down the government again in three weeks? >> dana: the polling is interesting. quinnipiac said 75% of all americans say they support the dreamers being able to stay in america. i think that's one of the reasons schumer thinks they have some leverage to try to get it done but i also think it's by the president, sarah sanders announced he's going to lay out legislative framework on monday to deal with the dreamers and also a couple other issues. chain migration, the visa lottery and probably something on border security. he has a chance right now to be the person that figures out how to actually get this done because the situation is ripe. there is support for all of this. it's the margins that are the tough ones. i think in the middle you could get there. it's going to take the president to drive it. the president has the bully pulpit for a reason. whenever he lays out on monday will be super important. >> jesse: i think crying chuck i

he went with joe donnelly and heidi heitkamp to their states and included democrats in every part of the conversation, even now with these immigration talks. democrats have rebuffed every attempt to work with this president. i think it's time for them to set aside their partisanship and put the american people first. the president is going to continually reach out to them because he knows how much better we could do if we're working together. >> sandra: it's hard to believe we're about to flip the month on the calendar to february. here we are in an election year. how would you describe the current state of your party today? >> the state of the republican party is strong. first of all for all the reasons i just mentioned, our leader and the state of the economy and the accomplishments we can run on. we raised record money and 22 states and getting ready for the mid-terms. we know how important it is to keep the majorities so we continue down the path of prosperity president trump has put us on. it is that vital we keep these mid-terms and we're fighting as hard as we can at the rnc a

not completely online operations, like an amazon also our guest host from 8:00 to 9:00, senator heidi heitkampe has been watching oil, oil prices that's a big deal in north dakota oil prices have risen to the highest level in over three years. we'll talk about those things and other issues in washington, including immigration. >>> i asked you yesterday if you knew who def leppard was do you >> no. i don't. you sent me home with homework >> listen up this is a band that sold 100 million records worldwide. >> i have heard this song before i didn't know the name >> they're still out there >> well there we go. >> the beatles predated me, the rolling stones predated me i'm familiar with their work >> am i because they're two of the great bands. >> the reason i'm asking about deaf f leppard, we have rick aln on, the drummer. incredible drummer came back after an accident after the breakout record pyro mania. he came back he came back had an amazing rovrrovr recovery and since then he's been doing all kinds of work for charities. he paynes, tapaints, takes pictt helps him with post traumatic stress h

it had been a gift from north dakota democratic senator heidi heitkamp and the custom of the talkingtick dates back to native american councils. the usefulness of such an object is obvious. it enforces the speaker's right to be heard and it forces the audience to listen. and as our teachers regularly reminded us in school, how can we listen if we're all talking? the group calls themselves the common sense coalition. about a quarter of the senate, it includes names like kuns of delaware, klobuchar, kaine, and lindsey graham of south carolina, who refers to collins' office as the switzerland of the senate. well, for now and for this time in our history, her office functions much closer to the way the entire senate used to function. and that is our broadcast for a monday night as we start a new week. thank you so much for being here with us and couldn't from nbc news headquarters from new york. shutdown is over but don't worry, in all likelihood, we'll have another one two weeks from thursday. >>> the government is back up and running this morning. lawmakers were able to agree on a thre

along with other notables such as lindsey graham, heidi heitkamp. the white house will present a group of proposals and requests to the assembled folks here today. they will tell them what the president wants on the wall, ending immigration loopholes, ending chain migration and a number of new i.c.e. agents the president wants to help enforce customs and immigration laws. stephen miller on tucker last night said he believes the president has the political high ground here, listen. >> if democrats oppose a border wall, they are saying they want continued unending illegal immigration. democrats ultimately have to make a choice. we are saying to them, if you want to make that deal, you have to deliver benefits for american families and american taxpayers, too. if they are willing to agree with those terms, we can have deal. >> attending will be the president, john kelly, the new homeland security secretary, the legislative affairs director who set a short time ago on fox business that he wants to reach a deal on this with democrats but doesn't understa

you can see, it's beautifully beaded, and it was given to me by my friend, democratic senator heidi heitkampta, and it is originally from africa. >> stephen: yes, yes! as lawmakers discussed immigration and the future of our government, the only minority in the room was a stick. ( cheers and applause ) ♪ ♪ and, obviously, you'd think a bunch of powerful adults could play a kid's game without things getting ugly, but not so fast. because at one point, senator lamar alexander of tennessee forcefully tossed the stick toward senator mark warner of virginia, nearly shattering a glass elephant belonging to collins. wow! >> jon: whoa! >> stephen: a heated discussion almost destroyed the symbol of the republican party. i think the full details are available in this month's issue of "heavy handed metaphor magazine." ( laughter ) oh, that "fat cat" article, that "fat cat" article looks going good. everybody loves metaphors. the kids love metaphors. washington's still reacting to the news of president trump's alleged affair with porn star stormy daniels. ( thunder ) ( laughter ) that's enough. that's e

heidi heitkamp. joe manchin much. 12 in states president trump carried by double digits.y have to look closely whether these priorities align with their political interests in 2018. >> jon: quick prediction from each of you. healthcare, welfare reform, immigration, infrastructure, where do you think this country can make progress in 2018? jim? >> welfare reform definitely not. that's a non-starter. entitlement reform ryan wants to do, mcconnell doesn't. infrastructure a possibility. immigration, and i also think some of the small fixes to healthcare that senator alexander could help and get done. >> infrastructure is an opportunity where both parties can meet. on the immigration front what's interesting about that everybody talks about daca. clearly democrats want to do daca. the question what are they willing to give to do it? up to now nothing. nothing to do with chain migration or nothing to do with the wall. they will have to move off those points of view in order to move anything substantial on immigration. >> jon: and we have a budget issue coming up we will have to

if he is democrats running in trump estates, claire mccaskill in missouri, heidi heitkamp and north dakotadonnelly in indiana, they will have tough races and he didn't want to shut down to go down longer and risk getting th. so i think he is gambling here a little bit, for sure. he is taking short-term heat with his base to say i will get you this eventually, i will get you this before daca runs out in march but i also think he's making a longer-term calculation that the midterms are going to be about donald trump in the end and that donald trump still remains unpopular and that he is taking some short-term heat and i think democrats did lose the short-term battle. i think long term, he thinks he can win the war. >> shannon: february 8th will be here before we know it. there will be another war or a fear battles between here and there as we near the cliff of a potential shutdown again. thank you both. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: you heard from the vice president about the big move of the embassy come a very ambitious timeline. but how is he looking to bring the partners in the region t

bipartisan group and so she employed a native american talking stick, a gift from north korea senator heidi heitkampf what we said was correct except for the stick. it is not a product of this con -- continent but is from kenya. it simply means the holder of the stick gets to talk and everyone else gets a listen. we liked the story last night because it contained the words "common sense." today the "times" in effect asked for the talking stick back for just time to correct the record. and it remains a great native and african-american tradition and a reminder, as we said, that nothing is easy in the u.s. senate. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night. thank you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> this morning we're following new reports about oblgbob muells we learn more about who the special counsel has already met with. >>> plus authorities are searching for a motive after a 15-year-old on opened fire on his classmates inside a kentucky high school. authorities say two students were killed. >>> and the fight over immigration reform ramps up on

resist and it will be interesting to see if they can get it together to save people like joe and heidi heitkamp and the closest race of anyone in 2018. >> four congressional leaders meet on capitol hill to avoid a government shutdown and gina when you're talking about the fact that they after that meeting they came out with good news they weren't going to shutdown. can you imagine a store owner and a person running the store when you call to ask them how are things going and the only answer he has is we'll keep the doors open tomorrow, that exceptionally low bar by this congress and i think it's why they have the poll of 13% approval rating which is just below the 14% of americans who leave in big foot so there is within that factor can this president actually work with this congress when their bar now is just to keep the doors open. >> they better work with this president because this president has shown now has demonstrated now what he can do to an economy he's totally revitalized the economy and we all know the numbers they are tip top and every democrat and every republican should be thrill

morning of january 1st, so i am wondering if you decided, sir, will you run for senate against heidi heitkampl my wife, chris and i, are considering that. we're talking to our friends and family back home, that's the first priority. all politics is local. i have a close relationship with the constituents of north dakota but we're also talking to our friends out here and we'll be spending some time this week, i'm in d.c. this week. i wish my colleagues were here, speaking of a lot of things to get done, but you know, we're considering weighing all of the possibilities and i may or may not get into the race. i haven't made up my mind. >> a very political answer from you, sir. >> it's just the truth, poppy. i really don't know. >> come back and tell us when you decided. if you do make this run it will be a tough run. she's got four times as much money raised as you. >> sure. >> senator majority leader mitch mcconnell said "i think we should anticipate a real knockdown drag-out, even on the senate side." is he right? >> certainly the map benefits republicans, but you just pointed out to the midte

people are dealing with the chilly temperatures better than others like north dakota senator heidi heitkampear as coat if it's below zero. enjoys coffee year around. in north dakota she very rarely shuts down the office because of ♪ the senator from north dakota says she does struggle with the d.c. summer heat. >> i remember walking out my house in june or july and it was 90 degrees and 90% humidity and it was only 9:00 in the morning. and i went who lives here? >> bret: iced coffee and 17 degrees today. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced and unafraid. continuing coverage of that house vote on the continuing resolution, the possible shut down. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. martha? >> martha: thank you, bret. it sure does. breaking tonight we are waiting as bret just said for the crucial vote on the house vote where they hope to avoid a government shut down there. are big gues questions tonight o big stories get to the heart of this evening as we watch that vote as it comes. in here is one. a new repor

heidi heitkamp of north dakota gave me come several years ago when we were negotiating a bill, a talking stick. it's beautifully beaded and i used it to control the debate in the room because as you can imagine, when you have 20-25 senators sitting around an office, each thinks that he or she should be the first to speak, and there's a lot of crosstalk. and i wanted to make sure that in addition to everybody getting an opportunity to speak, everybody listen to one another pass this stick around. believe it or not it worked. we are not using it right now, we used it for all the shutdown meetings, and it did help to ensure that everyone had a chance to speak and to be heard. >> so you got other senators to obey? >> well, i don't know whether it was so unexpected that i would pull out this stick, but people were very respectful of each other's views. >> you talked about personal to president trump during the health care debate. what is president trump like behind the scenes? >> he tends to be very gracious, and he tends to listen. he will say, well, that sounds reasonable. now, sometimes wh

and mansion and senator hedy hi heidi heitkamp of north dakota. is there anything shy of that?> i'm continuitired of continu resolutions. i want prediction ability. if i thought voting for this cr that's been sent over from the house would actually get us to long-term more comprehensive approach on immigration that meets workers needs in this country, i'd vote for it. we've done this before. and again einstein, definition on insanity is to continue to do the same thing over and over again, we can do better than that. we ought to use common sense. >> i appreciate your time. thank you, sir. >> thank you, erin. >>> next breaking news republicans demanding release of a memo claiming to show fbi miss steps during the 2016 election. is this real? is this somehow massive uncovering of a conspiracy? or is it just trying to undermine the russia probe? new details tonight about trump encounters with porn star named stormy. and secret operation to silence her with cash. coaching means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that w

manchin and heidi heitkamp and all those that are running for reelection in states that the presidentwon, it's time to get that on. go early, go big and go now. >> jon: you think that freedom caucus members would join other house republicans in passing something out of the house? >> absolutely. that's the key. i'm done. i think the american public is done with pussy footing around with the senate. that's the key is that we have to make people be big boys and girls and take votes. >> jon: what about the senate democrats contention that daca has to be part of any funding legislation? >> it's not. we promised the american people to build a wall, no amnesty and everything else. and we are going to live by those agreements. you have a conversation about immigration, it shouldn't be attached to a funding bill and it shouldn't be used as extortion. from that standpoint if that's what you want, then let's get it on right now because the leverage is on our side. do it now, don't wait until the very end the last moment when bad deals are done. let's do what the american people sent us to do, pa

bipartisan group and so she employed a native american talking stick, a gift from north korea senator heidi heitkampall of what we said was correct except for the stick. it is not a product of this con ne -- continent but is from kenya. it simply means the holder of the stick gets to talk and everyone else gets a listen. we liked the story last night because it contained the words "common sense." today the "times" in effect asked for the talking stick back for just time to correct the record. and it remains a great native and african-american tradition and a reminder, as we said, that nothing is easy in the u.s. senate. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night. thank you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> we are going to be joined live this hour by chuck schumer, the top democrat in the senate. we are about to get his first interview since the government shutdown. senator schumer had protesters outside his house tonight in brooklyn. there is a very robust and angry debate going on about why that shutdown happened anyway. why schumer and democrats

for re-election this coming year in 2018 in the fall, including joe manchin of west virginia, heidi heitkamp as the newly elected senator from alabama, doug jones. so the party discipline holding as much as it needed to. the politics of a shutdown, the blame game, isn't quite the no-brainer alex than you might think it is. in 2013, there was mention in the sound bite there, most of the public polls revealed a blamed republicans who controlled congress at the time even though there was a democrat in the white house for the shutdown. yet at the end of the that year, the next election, republicans were able to add seats. so this is not a slam dunk as far as the politics are concerned. meanwhile, on the senate floor last night, that vote that started at 10:15 dragged on for two hours. i just talked to our casey honin just arrived on the scene. she was up last night. she said there was a lot of drama, a lot of huddles over the senate floor trying to find some common ground, trying to find a way out of this impasse. there is talk today of a short-term three-week spending resolution to kick the can

as you can see, it's beautifully beaded and it was given to me by my friend democratic senator heidi heitkamp of north dakota, and it is originally from africa, and it is used to help control the debate in a meeting when you have a large number of loquacious people, and it was very helpful in making sure that everybody's voice got heard when we were doing the discussions in my office day after day after day. >> they use the same thing in my kid's kindergarten class. >> now, now -- >> is it true -- is it true, senator, that someone threw the stick during the meeting? >> i think a more accurate word would be that there was usually i would pick up the stick and take it from person to person, but sometimes it was tossed, and in this case, the toss went slightly amiss. >> with enough force to break a glass elephant on your shelf, is that true? >> it only chipped it. it wasn't -- it wasn't a disaster by any means. >> we'll take progress where we find it. not the stick throwing, i'm done with that now, but what did having the senators come together tell you about the prospects for the next 16 days?

heidi heitkamp of north dakota gave me come several years ago when we were negotiating a bill, i talking stick. it's beautifully beaded and i used it to control the debate in the room because as you can imagine, when you have 20-25 senators sitting around an office, each thinks that he or she should be the first to speak, and there's a lot of crosstalk. and i wanted to make sure that in addition to everybody getting an opportunity to speak, everybody listen to one another excel i would pass this stick around. believe it or not it worked. we are not using it right now, we used it for all the shutdown meetings, and it did help to ensure that everyone had a chance to speak and to be heard. >> so you got other senators to obey? >> well, i don't know whether it was so unexpected that i would pull out this stick, but people were very respectful of each other's views. >> you talked about personal to president trump during the health care debate. what is president trump like behind the scenes? >> he tends to be very gracious, and he tends to listen. he will say, well, that sounds reasonable. now

for instance, heidi heitkamp in north dakota.e has to vote to keep this open, if she doesn't, it could jeopardize her re-elect. so i think the other thing is, democrats are making -- saying the reason they didn't vote for this bill is simply because they want illegal immigrants to have legal status, and that's contradictory to republicans in trump's america first message. >> dave, same question to you. who stands the most to lose here as this continues? >> well, i think the polling that i alluded to earlier clearly is the latest evidence that shows the republicans are already hurting more than democrats. and that's because democrats are advancing the agenda of the american people. poll after poll consistently has shown the american people want a fingds to daca. cbs put out a poll the other day, 87% of americans want a daca fix. 79% of those are republicans. when it comes to c.h.i.p., the children's health insurance program that was part of the house bill that had the six-year extension, but not a permanent solution in extension o

the one that's on the table now, heidi heitkamp, joe donnelly from indiana, joe manchin already.others may join. but you have republicans who are opposed. lindsey graham, jeff flake, and others. >> the votes aren't there, it would be like a rabbit out of the hat to get a deal now. even if it would be a short-term extension into next week, but it's interesting they are having those discussions. a shutdown is bad for politicians of all sorts. democrats. i think it's worse for republicans. i think it's worse of all for president trump, who was elected as a dealmaker, who is going to drain the swamp here, we are standing in the swamp not drained deal, not made. >> he's been super involved, keeps calling these audibles. republicans think it'll be even worse for them because of that. >> bret: republicans spent today reading much on message saying they passed something that democrats like, that there is nothing in what they passed the democrats should oppose. >> that was the point mick mulvaney tried to make over and over at the white house today, which is actually true. i think the rea

several other people in that cohort, including heidi heitkamp and joe donnelly, if i'm not mistaken, have already said they're going to vote for this continuing resolution. they don't want to shut the government down. where do you stand? >> i'm going to vote no. and i'm going to vote no because, first of all, it's clear what they have done. i mean, listen to what steve schmidt said, listen to what jason said, that clearly what's happened here is they have taken two very popular issues, 80%, 90% support, and played politics with it. i have tried since september, before it expired, to get c.h.i.p. reauthorized. 209,000 children in ohio will benefit from c.h.i.p. we tried in october, november, december. republicans have done nothing but a big tax cut for rich people and now they're using it for some sort of political talking point. you know, you just can't run the government a month at a time. the secretary of defense came in to talk to us and said we can't have a military where i don't know month to month if we're going to have funding for the next month. and so it's clear. i have a pe

s point, i just came from the hill where heidi heitkamp was saying she was encouraged by the president'sds, but we will see what happens today, which is to say this framework they put out monday will be a strong indicator of who is actually running the show. if it looks like what the president was describing in the conversation with reporters, it may be something manageable, but if we see things in there that expand on the notion of border security from a wall to aggressive interior enforcement to cracking down on sanctuary cities to a number of issues that are going to be poison pills to democrats that are going to be necessary to pass a bill in the senate, it's going to look like his staff got involved again, and it's going to continue to erode trust that lawmakers already have doubts, again, negotiating with jell-o. so, really this framework they put out on monday and the level of specifics and the number of poison pills you see in it are going to be strongly indicative of where this negotiation is going to go next. >> can i add one thing to that? when the president said last night to

bipartisan group and so she employed a native american talking stick, a gift from north dakota senator heidi heitkampl of what we said was correct except for the stick. it is not a product of this continent and is in fact from the maasai tribe in kenya. the talking stick tradition exists in both cultures and it simply means the holder of the stick gets to talk and everyone else gets to listen. we liked the story last night because it contained the words "common sense." today the "times" in effect asked for the talking stick back for just long enough to correct the record and adjust its provenance. we now do the same tonight. and it remains a great native and african tradition. and a reminder, as we said, that nothing is easy in the u.s. senate. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night. thank you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> tonight on "all in." >> if mr. mueller asked the president to submit to an interview, is that something that the president would be open to. >> new signs that mueller time is coming for the president. >> the witch hunt con

manchin of west virginia, donnelley of indiana and the other one was heidi heitkamp of north dakota.those are all three democrats in really tough, tight races. they didn't want this to happen either. i want to see this resolved. >> you have republicans on the other side in tough races and they didn't vote for it. >> i think what was the final vote? only a couple. >> i think the republicans are like mike lee and lindsey graham. >> 50-49. >> republicans are pretty unified here. >> here is my question, and as i was talking, especially to david rohde last night as we were sitting there watching this, he said i think this is going to go aon for awhile. the sentiment i get is this is going to go on for awhile. >> the shutdown is going to go on for awhile? i don't believe that. >> yes, it will. >> it sounds silly, the longer this goes on, the longer it goes on, kirsten. is that right? >> think that's right. something you said, this is over immigration, it's not really over immigration. it's over one issue. a daca fix. something to help some young people that were brought into this country t

so republicans are hopeful that the joe manchins, claire mccaskills, heidi heitkamps of the world, democrats from redder states, are not going to be willing to shut down the government over this. so you've got this game of chicken being played in both houses while the effort continues to come up with some kind of negotiated solution on daca, on the dreamers. but right now, that looks pretty far off. >> pretty far off, i don't know, garrett haake, if i were a betting woman, i would say the government ain't going to shut down anytime soon, or at least i hope not. i want my panel not to weigh in on the shutdown but to weigh in on eric trump. because in the last hour, despite the fact that eric trump every day is invited to come on the show with me, he says because we don't talk about the economy. a au contraire, eric, we talk about it every day. >> my father is the least racist person i've met in my entire life, it's total nonsense. >> eric trump, while green is the color of money, green is also what you say when someone is naive or simple. green is the color of envy. familiarize with both. wha

north dakota, last week, when congressman ken cramer was seriously considering running against heidi heitkampdemocrat. cramer had been urged by trump and vice president pence to run. he decided not to do that. scott, i'm told, is seriously considering it. he has had a number of conversations including with lamar alexander, marco rubio. rubio himself told me that scott will make a decision after the end of this legislative session, which will be in march. of course, we'll see what the political environment is then. perhaps he may not want to dig into his big, personal fortune to take a risk on a very -- would be a challenging senate run. and of course, he got that political gift from the white house after the interior department decided to suddenly abandon this decision to allow offshore drilling off the florida coast. but, it shows you the depths and the lengths that the administration is trying to go to help a political ally. >> if he says no after that, it will tell you everything you need to know about the political environment. margaret? >> well, as president trump gets ready to mark his

but when you're mhmitch trying to hold on to the senate you're trying to figure out how to put heidi heitkampnorth dakota on the defensive. republicans can't find anybody to run against her. everybody's passed on it. how to take on claire mccaskill in missouri, joe donnelly in indiana, both of whom proved themselves to be formidable in red states in winning elections. so i think that's really where it is. i just think there are more opportunities for the democrats who, in 2016, were -- and i think rightly targeted as a party of identity politics. so reaching out to constituency by constituency. >> i would say one thing, the tide has been swinging looks like in the democratic direction in 2018 and the only way they could mess it up that i could imagine so far is if they have a base election, if they go -- if they make their voters in new york, san francisco and l.a. super happy but make the voters in indiana and tennessee and missouri super unhappy, and they risk that sort of fissure with this. >> woodruff: so that's the state by state or district by district political calculus but, david, is

if you're a joe manchin, claire mccaskill, heidi heitkamp, look what this guy did, he held up governmentng over helping dreamer kids. there's a segment of their population. >> there's steny hoyer who basically said we are united 100% on that. >> absolutely. we saw the president express once again little interest in speaking with the black caucus about this deal as a whole. the black caucus to many people's surprise has a vested interest because daca is not limited to immigrants from mexico an latin american countries. >> as we've heard. >> new polling suggests voters are poised to blame republicans if congress fails to keep the government working. the poll conducted by the democratic leaning firm hart research associates surveyed voters in a dozen battleground states and found 42% of americans would blame the president and the majority, only 31% would blame democrats. a whopping 81% of the battleground voters say any agreement should include a deal to prevent the deportation of undocumented dreamers. >> here's the thing. we're not talking about all democrats. all you need, you know the m

he didn't seem particularly bothered by the idea that the heidi heitkamp's of the world voted the other direction. i think that the question with chuck schumer so far, it has been that he has maintained a degree of unity. but if people want to go the other way i don't think he well stop them or cause the same sort of problems for them that one might have expected harry reid to have when he was the them aquatic leader. host: a graduate of hamilton george washington university. we go to the republican line. good morning. caller: i have a quick comment along the lines of one of the last callers talking about the same group of republicans stopping the government in 2013 but it seems to me was that obama got his way and it took another eight years to figure out that imposing taxes on people for not having health care seemed unconstitutional. and now that we have a president who is actually getting into the white house to do something, it seems that these people seem to be offended that he is actually getting his way. when if you look back over the three administrations five, it seems like th

democrats, some red state democrats in 2018 will be to work on things because it's risky for a heidi heitkampnd joe manchin and others to, you know, be completely on the anti side of this. at the same time, we have not seen any substantive meetings, really, with a bipartisan group of republican -- of congressional leaders. it would be interesting if the president had chuck schumer and nancy pelosi out to camp david. they've had a few meetings. >> chuck and nancy, right. >> we'll see more in the next couple of weeks -- that is the question here. president trump as you were saying earlier, he is the one who has been both sides of the political parties. >> all the sides. >> genius. he has the capacity to pull this together. his base will restrict him from doing so. >> this courting has to do more than just inviting democrats up to camp david. what democrat everyons have imp there have to be policy concessions. >> citizenship. >> if you look where trump moved, it's been more in the direction of the right wing rather than democrats. there has to be some sort of a course correction in order to brin

heitkamp,ly, heidi doug jones of alabama, as well as two other senators that voted yes -- joe manchin of west virginia and senator claire mccaskill of missouri. .ake a look at the numbers trump's friend victory in those states, those 10 democratic states where democrats are up 'sr reelection -- trump victory in the states, those 10 democratic states were democrats are up for reelection. those are the numbers that republicans are looking at in hoping to sway some of those senate democrats to vote with and thethe chip funding continuing resolution. on a lighter note, here is d.c. bars andh restaurants and shutdown specials. these are available every day of the week. five dollars with the federal employee id. one of them -- the flake or to not to flake. rand's neighborhood affair. c'mon chuck. fireball, andr, nancy's favorite. have you ever met a haitian? banana bacardi rum, pineapple/ cranberry soda, and guilt. jacktar punch, stormy daniels, fruit punch, so the, served on an indie a. and the durban soda. bourbon, soda, and snitch sauce. a portable beer act, natty boh a shot of montezuma

, senator manchin in west virginia, also claire mccaskill of missouri, jon tester of montana, heidi heitkampf north dakota, and sherrod brown of ohio. those e the lks to watch today as the senate is set to co and weater this morning, should say bob casey of pennsylvania. those are the democrats to watch this morning to see what happens when the senate comes into session later today. george from west virginia, a democrat. what do you think? caller: can you hear me? host: yes. caller: i have one word, and then a comment. shut it down. how can you trust the republicans when they are talking about illegal immigrants? these are dreamers. these individuals came here through no fault of their own. we can go all the way down to march or april or until the time really runs out, but we could have done that a long time ago. it is a stance. you have got lindsey graham and paul ryan on the republican side also saying they are not going to do a short-term. why can't they do long-term? they had another agenda to kick this can down the road. i agree with lindsey graham, and i am a democrat. i think they sho