i recall discussing matters with heimann bookbinder at the time. now, i recall by '71 and '72 i began to have -- i particularly began to have more and more doubts as to what i had done in '69 and '70 was right. i was trying to figure out ways to extricate ourselves from the almost drive towards sure enough mcgovern's response was a full-throated embrace of goals and timetables. i sat down with lynn gardner. lynn was responsible for responding to that and came to me, and i wrote and we wrote together, but i remember writing a draft in which of the letter to the jewish group, whichever jewish group it was, in which i tried to suck out of the goals and timetables it's worst evils by saying we shouldn't be in this and that and this. that letter went off. i don't have a copy of it. you probably do. but i do remember lynn and i reading it, and i remember also lynn was more inclined to the left at that point than i was. i was trying to pull back. i asked about art fletcher's role. the more, of course, we spread affirmative action, the more art was major e

i recall discussing matters with heimann bookbinder at the time. now, i recall by '71 and '72 i began to have -- i particularly began to have more and more doubts as to what i had done in '69 and '70 was right. i was trying to figure out ways to extricate ourselves from the almost drive towards quotas. i realize once you use quotas i realize once you start using numbers there was no basis important numbers other than proportional representation. i don't know how you disguised it. which leads, of course, to preferential hiring based on race. and quotas. it is not just quotas. preferential hiring. based on a knew mayor cal standard. it was quite ironic. a jewish group, i don't know which one it was wrote a letter to both mcgovern and nixon asking for their position on quotas, goals, affirmative action. it was amusing because i saw this as taunt to provide a path back from the mistakes we made and a way of putting mcgovern too far left. sure muff, mcgordvern's respons was full-throated embrace of goals and timetables. i sat down with lyn gardner. lynn