ben heineman: can the counsel disagree? - ( all chuckling ) - tapper: we will get to you in a second. - leslie lowe: can your shareholders disagree? - tapper: well, leslie, you're the head of an n.g.o. that's focused on the environment. and you know betsy just because - your kids go to the same school. - oh, okay. and you've heard about this novastan deal going through. - you have concerns about this. - lowe: sure. betsy, my concern about what paul just said is it isn't just the workers. asbestos generalized in the environment is a very very dangerous substance. and unless there are those protections, i'd say that your company might be setting itself up for a big problem. well, i think that it's important to take what's been learned and transfer it to the environment to minimize any negative damage. but at the end of the day we do need to make a product and get it to market in timely fashion. we compete with many other cruise lines and we can't not go to market. - lowe: you know, betsy... - we've got the expense of our loan

heineman: you are being subpoenaed. if they've got crimes, let the police do their job. - you're being subpoenaed. - tapper: i just wanna give you some information. i want you to go back to talking, but while you're talking, your servers in jaigunda have gone down. the government knows nothing about it, of course. "we're waiting for the name of this blogger you haven't given to us." your servers are down. your competitors are getting all sorts of people to sign up. heineman: look, we made a pact with the devil to begin with, on the broad theory-- no, on the broad theory that it was better to be there than not be there. if you're going to be there, in a totalitarian or authoritarian society, you're going to do certain things consistent with the original decision. there will come a point when you have to get out. now whether that point is when they ask for someone who was politically protesting as opposed to child pornography, or-- it's not unsurprising, sometimes they ask for the religious affiliations of your employees.