emily: it's perfectly understandable when a member of the press is murdered so heinously, it's perfectly people in the press are mourning. but there are legitimate things some conservative outlets reported on that are getting people's attention. i hadn't noticed the coordination. howie: fox news contributor sebastian gorka calls him a so-called journalist. other say he was embed with bin laden. harris faulkner took flack for asking about past ties with the muslim brotherhood. she said it was just a question. howie: is this coordinated to make it seem like his murder isn't so bad? mo: i don't think there is anyone saying his murder wasn't so bad. but there are people trying to make points in order to muddy the issue enough in order to give the president political room to maneuver in how he handles his relationship with the saudi government. as long as there is some questions hovering over jamal khashoggi, then that gives the president more room to maneuver. i think that's a disgusting strategy. howie: the media is naturally sympathetic. some are saying it's being overplayed. tucker carlso

obama didn't lift a finger after all of those people were heinously killed. on.er democrats saying we have to do something about saudi arabia. we have to pull out of this or that. is hillary clinton going to give back the $25 million the saudi royal family gave her foundation? i don't think so. the democrats don't like saudi politics because it's all about oil. they have always tried to peel this country away from saudi arabia for energy issues, and right now whatever the president does, if he embraces an ally like he's doing now, he is criticized. if the antagonist -- antagonizes an alley come he is criticized. he can never win. >> juan: people saying that it's about money. the saudis just spent $100 million fulfilling pledge, efforts in syria. >> kennedy: i don't trust saudi arabia and i think there are other countries in the middle east where we are better aligned. you're right about hillary clinton and she would have done exact same thing. political cronyism goes back so many administration's, further back than her husband, and american presence have always p

>> it was -- it's a nightmare to see a hero fall that heinously. like literally. i talked about it on one of my specials. someone said i was defending him. i was, like, defending him? i was mourning him, like the loss of a hero. it was a terrible, terrible thing to watch. i got it tell you, seeing him get perp walked at 81 was devastating for every black comedian. like, oh my god, this is terrible. i joked about it before. all my heroes murdered by the government or a registered sex offender. it's a sad state of affairs. >> what is the right way for anybody to rehabilitate them? louis c.k. did what he did without consent of the women who he did it in front of. and then he pops into the comedy cellar in the village and does this act, again, without consent of the audience. they didn't know he was going to be there. be that as it may -- >> that's why i get consent of the audience. i go around and -- >> you cool with me going on? >> i'm going to go on. >> but here's the situation. the guy who runs the comedy cellar got into some flack for it. so did louis c.k. for no

i think it speaks to the heinousness of this crime. turkey is really looking good at the moment compared to saudi arabia. rights reason why human groups have called for international u.n.-led them independent investigation is precisely because, as we have has, turkey, although it been leaking a lot of interesting information, cannot conduct aupon to non-politicized investigation. and that is why it is essential that there is an international independent investigation at this point. >> the next question is addressed to the whole panel, so if you want to take a job at it -- jab at it. this one is regarding the muslim brotherhood. he indicated the muslim brotherhood is visible and quite active in different countries in the arab world. been some reaction recently, regionally, and internationally, and even here domestically in the united in congress to outlaw, if you will, the brotherhood in this country, or calls to put it on a terrorist list, and so on. are there external or international players that are pushing this policy? sure. khasho

this was a heinously brutal crime.ly khashoggi posed some kind of serious threat to this regime which we do not yet understand. in terms of establishing the motive and timing, is there anything that you can tell us about what he may have been working on that posed such a threat to this regime that could help illuminate. that column about the media, freedom of the media, that, of course s-an insult to the regime but doesn't necessarily pose a grave threat that might explain why this happened. can you tell us anything about what he may have been working on? >> right. so, yeah, i mean i do know that he was -- he had all sorts of ideas, i think, like i said about his energy, his being here. he really wanted to -- he was thinking about setting up an ngo. he was thinking about maybe writing a book. for our part here he really wanted to set up some sort of platform for arab voices and he definitely we increased publishing him in arabic and see how they reacted to kohn commenting on their foreign rights or their human rights i