mccaskill of missouri, jon tester of montana, heidi heitkamp of north dakota, and sherrod brown of ohio. those e the lks to watch today as the senate is set to co and weater this morning, should say bob casey of pennsylvania. those are the democrats to watch this morning to see what happens when the senate comes into session later today. george from west virginia, a democrat. what do you think? caller: can you hear me? host: yes. caller: i have one word, and then a comment. shut it down. how can you trust the republicans when they are talking about illegal immigrants? these are dreamers. these individuals came here through no fault of their own. we can go all the way down to march or april or until the time really runs out, but we could

, my colleague from ohio, senators brown and stabenow and done -- and donnelly and klobuchar and heitkamp have been stalwart voices for men and women in their states, senator man china china -- senator manchin for the miners in west virginia and others across the country. we come to the floor tonight to urge our republican colleagues to join us in doing something to shore up pension plans for millions of americans, millions of middle-class workers in this country, teamsters and carpenters, they put their money into plans year after year. they knew they wouldn't be rich when they retired but they thought they could live a life of decency. they offered 401(k) salary increases. they said give me a lower raise but put money in that pension. these people earned these pensions. they are the backbone of america. but now after all their hard work and all their savings, several multiyear pension plans are at risk of failure through no fault of the worker. families in my state and across the country could see their retirement savings slashed, teamsters, miners, carpenters, food service workers are

senator heitkamp, democrat on this network this morning said president didn't need to be involved. it was the senate's responsibility. it was the house's responsibility. one of your members said it was on the senate and the house to get this done. >> he gets the last word even though it's not true.

there were five democrats voted yes, joe donnelly and heidi heitkamp. and doug jones, the new senator from alabama, and mccclaskill i missouri. they're moderate democrats so it was good for them to take. we'll have lindsey gram and rand paul and mitch mcconnell. you may say, mitch mcconnell propounded the vote, why is he saying no? what happens in the senate and say you get a deal you have to keep the bill alive and you have to be on the prevailing side of the vote. in this case the nos will prevail. mcconnel will vote no. they started at 10:13 and we're now at 11:24, a little more than an hour and mcconnel will be able to recall the vote at some point. say the government shuts down and has a lapse in funding. that's the term we should use at this hour. the house and senate don't have a deal, when they have a deal tonight, tomorrow or the weekend next week, you say wait a minute they kept some organizations open. things were being funded. how can they do that? article 1 section 9 of the constitution said you can't spend money without the appropriation o

secretary mnuchin: thank you.se senator heitkamp. senator heitkamp: thank you, mr. secretary, for coling. -- a couple follow-on secretary, for coming. just a couple follow-on points. no one wants to limit the ability of the economy to thrive. i think it's critically important we make the public understand that we simply went the bill from designating automatically to basically allowing the regulators to designate someone -- some entity as a sifi. we haven't abandoned that process so i want to make that point. also want to make another point. i think it's fascinating when people here cite c.b.o. statistics but they don't want to take all of c.b.o. it's called cherry picking. cherry pick the statistics that most that makes your argument. whether it's we are going to have a 1.9% projected growth when the growth has been over 2% for a prolonged period of time. so i want to talk a little bit about c.b.o. projections because the love fest that we're having here need to have a little discussion about c.b.o. forecasts on deficits which as you know moody's has recently issue

senator heitkamp of north atoka -- north dakota. senator manchin of was virginia.nd senator mccaskill of missouri. however, republicans did not keep their conference in line. there were republicans who voted no. senator jeff flake. senator lindsey graham. and senator mike lee. he also had senator rand paul, who forecasted his no vote early on. senator mcconnell had to vote no as a procedural move. voteate senator jeff flake -- why did senator flake vote no? he tweeted he was promised, in part, a vote on daca in exchange for his yes vote. he tweeted -- my thoughts on daca, i maintain that the only way to find out what the president supports us to put a bill on the volt -- for an vote on it. they were trying to secure a deal before midnight. they were unable to do so. so we find ourselves in a shutdown. the president up early and tweeting democrats are far more concerned with illegal immigrants than they are with at ourat military southern border. they could've easily made a deal but decided to play shutdown politics instead. we need more republicans in 18 in order t

i suspect if i get in the race, senator heitkamp and i will both have enough money to win and one oft. there will be no shortage of resources in the race in north dakota >> let me ask you about the mueller russia probe. >> sure. >> this is something members of both parties will run on partly in the mid terms and you've called the russia probe led by special counsel bob mueller botched. some of your fellow republicans, though, in congress, like representative thomas rooney of florida, like representative peter king of new york, are warning, look, language like that hurts our party and we have to be careful. here is part what have rooney said, "political cheapshots that sound good on fox news but in the real world are unfair to a guy that's given his life serving this country." do you think they have a point, sir? >> they may have a point in new york, but i'm just telling you that, from my observation, this whole idea of a special counsel and independent special counsel was to restore confidence in our justice system and in this particular investigation. that's not happened, largely be

heidi heitkamp. joe manchin much. 12 in states president trump carried by double digits.y have to look closely whether these priorities align with their political interests in 2018. >> jon: quick prediction from each of you. healthcare, welfare reform, immigration, infrastructure, where do you think this country can make progress in 2018? jim? >> welfare reform definitely not. that's a non-starter. entitlement reform ryan wants to do, mcconnell doesn't. infrastructure a possibility. immigration, and i also think some of the small fixes to healthcare that senator alexander could help and get done. >> infrastructure is an opportunity where both parties can meet. on the immigration front what's interesting about that everybody talks about daca. clearly democrats want to do daca. the question what are they willing to give to do it? up to now nothing. nothing to do with chain migration or nothing to do with the wall. they will have to move off those points of view in order to move anything substantial on immigration. >> jon: and we have a budget issue coming up we will have to

sen heidi heitkamp (d-nd): we can build a $20b wall -- but if we don't solve this problem will not havesolved the problem with interdicting drugs. portman's report linked online sellers in china to seven opioid-related deaths in the united states. sen. rob portman (r-oh): how many people have to die in washington, i'm jessica smith. (pam) here is a closer look at how powerful deadly mudslides were in southern california. this shows c-h-p officers responsing to call.. unknowinly drove into part of the mudflow... they lost control, but luckily made it out safely. that was not the case for everyone. right now: there are still two people missing in montecito. in a story .... all new at ten: john palminteri reports .. police are bringing in some assistants to help with the search. voice of nelson trichler/santa barbara co. search and rescue: "it's a different environment when things dry out" the santa barbara county search and rescue team is still on a focused search for two missing persons in the montecito mudflow disaster:17 year old jack cantin and two year old lydia sutthithepa.the searc

our guest host for the hour, north dakota senator heidi heitkamp which says "fargo" was from brainerd a difference you always say you betcha. i say there you go >> there you go. >> that's really good. >> that's kind of a different. >> if you don't like something you say that's different. >> you don't really criticizing. >> that's kind of interesting. >> kind of like bless his heart. >> she looked at my hair and said that's kind of interesting. let's get a check on the markets this morning up again, triple digits. at least they were jpmorgan reported. the dow component and it's been moving around, just barely triple digits now but we were up 200 yesterday. great start to the year so far is it -- it's the 12th, right, i think i got that right once i get the year, then i can't possibly get the right day but it's 2018 now. the futures on the s&p up just under 6 and the nasdaq is strong up 15. nasdaq having a great start to the month and the year treasuries which looked like they were -- yields were off to the races, they have moderated in recent sessions now 2.54 on the ten-year. >> and t

since then senator hide cam aei heitkamp said they would vote and donely.o they have made progress post that meeting. >> i think that meeting was significant. the fact of the matter was i think it was important for them who know each other from their days in new york and of course running in concentric circles, but i do think it was important. and i think it's worth noting too, right now, i think incredible amount of pressure on democrats saying democrats shutting down the government. let's not forget lindsey graham is republican and he is not supporting this as well as rand paul. >> that's right. they need 8 votes. that doesn't mean 8 democrats. but you have two republicans in the nos right now. thanks to all three. and, next, last ditch efforts to keep the government from closing. we are now just a few hours away. what are the chances lawmakers can do something in that time when they couldn't do it in months and months as your guests just say. and republicans claiming they have proof of rampant fbi abuse during the 2016 election. is it true or just an an

we heard from her, lisa murkowski, heidi heitkamp, lindsey graham. they were being coy, failed to give detail on a proposal hammered out, but there is seemingly some agreement there of having a commitment to include immigration. what's the latest? >> some of the democrats went straightrom here tohuck scmer's office to continue the conversation with him. let me put together and try to give you what i think are the outlines here. first, this is the most optimism i've heard from senators of either party since before the shutdown started, that maybe, just maybe, they have something they can work with here. based on lindsey graham's comments, doesn't sound like they are talking about some new piece of legislation. what it sounds like is under discussion here is the idea that this bipartisan group could support voting for this piece of legislation that's on the floor, set for 1:00 vote, this three-week c.r., fund the government until february 8th, fund the c.h.i.p. program for six years. however, with their votes, sounds like what is being discussed is a s

about the mendez of new jersey, heidi heitkamp of north dakota and dianne feinstein of carolina. we are going to see what they are talking about inside the cabinet meeting room inside the white house right now with the president and the bipartisan group of senators. >> i think my positions are going to be with the people in this room come up with. i am very much reliant on the people in this room. i know most of the people on both sides have a lot of respect for the people on both sides, and what i approve is going to be very much reliant on what the people in this room come to me with. i have great confidence in. if they come to do with things that i'm not in love with, i'm going to do it. because i respect them. thank you all very much. i know her very well. i did one of her last shows. she had donald trump. her last week, and she had donald trump and my family was very nice. i like opera. i don't think she's going to ru run. i don't think she's going to ru run. i know her very well. it's phase two. i think comprehensive will be phase two. i really agree with that. we get one t

then we have senator heitkamp and a small minority does this i think it would be a minority that will impose funding the government. so now they try to somehow rationalize that it is okay. we have been getting close on a funding discussion. if i were speaking to the pages i would ask them whether or not they saw the peanuts. you have seen the scene where you are running down and think you're about to kick the football and just about the time there's a group of people that want to pull the football away. that's what they are doing again and honestly, you know, it gets tiring to see us come so close itt? out such a reasonable amout of people. there are unreasonable people and it is a bipartisan situation that we have here. on certain issues they become unreasonable. but all of a sudden they create theseli coalitions from those of us that just wants to score and make progress and fund the government to provide a solution for the population. but now we have another in the area on both of the spending bills and also daca bill. also, i could talk about the chip program. it's something that

you also have claire mccaskill, sherrod brown in ohio, senator heitkamp, senator tester, debbie stab and now, all up for reelection. five of them voted last night for a continuing resolution. it was not enough. heitkamp,ly, heidi doug jones of alabama, as well as two other senators that voted yes -- joe manchin of west virginia and senator claire mccaskill of missouri. .ake a look at the numbers trump's friend victory in those states, those 10 democratic states where democrats are up 'sr reelection -- trump victory in the states, those 10 democratic states were democrats are up for reelection. those are the numbers that republicans are looking at in hoping to sway some of those senate democrats to vote with and thethe chip funding continuing resolution. on a lighter note, here is d.c. bars andh restaurants and shutdown specials. these are available every day of the week. five dollars with the federal employee id. one of them -- the flake or to not to flake. rand's neighborhood affair. c'mon chuck. fireball, andr, nancy's favorite. have you ever met a haitian? banana bacardi rum, pine

then we have senator heitkamp, it's really bullying behavior when the small minority does this.ell, i think it will be a minority that will oppose funding the government. so now people who didn't like the bullying behavior are trying to rash nalaxone it that -- rationalize that it's okay. we've been getting close on a funding discussion and daca. i can't speak to y'all directly, but if i were speaking to the pages, i would ask them whether or not they saw the peanuts cartoon because there's a common thing that we talk about that lucy and the football. you've seen the scene where you're running down, think you're about to kick that football and just about the time you're going to do it, there's a group of people here that want to pull the football away. that's what they're doing again. honestly, you know, it gets tiring to see us come so close, to have so many reasonable-minded people. now, guess what? there are unreasonable people. it's a bipartisan situation we have here. we have, i have friends, they are friends of mine, but on certain issues they become unreasonable. they're

. >> red state democrats donnely, jones, heitkamp, manchin, mckas kell voted in favor of the four-week extension. dilemma for republican leaders four republicans voted against it. flake, graham, lee, and rand paul of kentucky. earlier the majority leader was clearly irritated with senate democrats. >> this is completely unfair and uncompassionate for my democratic colleagues to filibuster government funding, harm our troops, or jeopardize health coverage for 9 million children because extreme elements of their base want illegal immigration to crowd out every other priority. >> most senators from both parties throughout the course of the day seemed hopeful and looking for an escape hatch to avoid a government shutdown. they didn't seem to know how they would get there. but the democrat stayed so focused on the immigration deal with the clock ticking on government funding. shannon? >> shannon: mike emanuel live on the hill for every twist and turn, we'll check back with you shortly. the schumer shutdown, that's what the white house is calling it. chief national correspondent ed henry joi

spending to bring the freedom caucus members on board so all of the pressure is on senator manchin and heitkampnd don nolly and those up for re-election in the states that trump won. >> that's interesting. we just had on senator richard blumenthal on. he's a "no." and the only way they say they are getting on board is with the deal for the d.r.e.a.m.ers that they think is still alive, though president trump, you know, has killed it. they still think it's a bipartisan bill that they can revive. >> it's not going to happen by friday. number two, both of those people are from my home state of connecticut and not from democrats in west virginia or indiana, to a.b.'s points. the politics are a little different. easy for blumenthal to be against it. that said, for even the sweeteners that house republicans unveiled last night, c.h.i.p. and some of these other things to get more folks on board with a bill to extend the budget funding, i'm skeptical that republicans would not be blamed 100% for this. pat leahy, senator from vermont said it yesterday and this is how it goes. republicans control the whit

heitkamp hasn't said what she'd do, for this has mccaskill. tester is opposing the house c.r. we've been showing you a number of speeches from today from the senate floor. the c.r. itself passed yesterday in the house. by a vote of 230-197. we'll keep you posted on any news, updates on a senate vote possible and any live briefings all live if possible here on c-span. in the meantime, we'll show you some of the debate from last night, leading up to the final passage vote of the c.r. in the u.s. house. is is an hour. i yield myself such time as i may consume. i rise to present the house amendment to the senate amendment to h.r. 195rk the extension of continuing appropriations act of 2018. this critical legislation extends government funding through february 16. our current funding expires tomorrow night. if congress does not pass this bill, and the president does not sign it into law before then, the government will shut down. it is our congressional duty to prevent that from happening and to ensure the american people have access to government programs and services they depend

mccaskill of missouri, joe donnelly of indiana, joe manchin of west virginia, heidi heitkamp of west virginia, got owns of alabama, all of whom face those paths to reelection in their states. four republicans voting against them, senator graham in south carolina, mike lieff utah -- mie theiegh of utah, and senator not running again in arizona. big bear city, california, republican line, joanne. go ahead. caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i'm definitely in support, in regards to allowing for mandatory withholding of pay for every member of congress that has voted towards the, the congress -- i'm sorry, for the umm, the shutdown. i would like, if you can, if your station can put a list up all the democrats and everyone that has voted towards the shutdown, and to actually have their names but on their that would be wonderful for us to know who is shutting down our government. there's of the thoughts i have, in regards to daca -- there's other thoughts i have, in regards to daca and our budget. these are two separate issues. there shouldn't be anything tied to the budget. budget,

i mean on the democratic side, those who voted yes were joe donnelly, heidi heitkamp, doug jones, joe manchin, and claire mccaskill. carry on. >> exactly. the point being -- >> there's lindsey graham and chuck schumer on your screen. >> this is not some sort of democratic conspiracy to shut down the government. democrats have historically wanted to fund and keep the government operating. it's been traditionally the democrats who have done that in the face of opposition from republicans like ted cruz and newt gingrich in the past who have tried to shut down the government. what we have going on right now is a situation where we have a president who just said last may that we need a good government shutdown. he said that on twitter just last may. a president who said just seven years ago that if there is a shutdown, that the people don't care about whether it's the republicans or democrats in congress. they look to the president for leadership. we have a president who sold himself as being this master negotiator. >> i got it. listen, i'm going to say the same thing. again, we keep talki

heidi heitkamp suggesting that this vote potentially could be there are conversations back-and-forthetween republicans and democrats in the senate on immigration. i put this question to you. how long is this thing going to go on? rep. hensarling: you have to ask senator schumer. shutdown and only senator schumer knows when it will end. why do i say that, kevin? a majority of the house voted to keep the government open. a majority of the senate voted to keep the government open, but unfortunately it takes a super majority in the senate. democrats chose this shut down the government over an issue that has nothing to do with spending. this is a spending bill. down the chose to shut government over an issue that does not have a january deadline , does not have a february deadline, has a march deadline. meanwhile friday at midnight come our troops were told, by the way, report for duty, but senator schumer took you off the payroll. negotiation's are continuing as the american people are waking up to starting to feel the effects of what is probably more accurately described as a more parti

i think heidi heitkamp is in trouble.hey are in red states, in states where trump still remains popular despite what is going on. but i think the overall picture though, we have to look at it differently. one thing that happens with a wave is you don't know where it will crash. you don't know where it will run up to. ankd t and the most important number, we have the polls, but the most important number of all heading into the midterms is 25 to 26. that is the number of republican members of congress in the senate who have retired. people who are said i'm not going to spend the next ten months trying to wraz monraise when i'm going to lose. so those guys are walking into their grocery stores and hearing you guys are going out of here. so i think democrats are in danger, but republicans are looking at decimation. >> we'll have to end this. jason johnson and jason johnson, hopefully you will come back again. really appreciate it. >>> coming up at the top of the hour, new reaction to reports donald trump tried to fire robert

you saw heidi heitkamp and now they are putting pressure on other democrats. the white house press secretary has been tweeting with them saying get on board. but anderson, i just talk to a white house official in just the last few minutes about whether or not there might be the chance for some kind of alternative plan beyond this four-week cr that they have been talking about, whether a short-term cr could work. and this white house official was saying it was not likely to pass the house. what phil mattingly was saying, this is right. nobody wants to swallow a compromise tonight. >> that meeting with chuck schumer, did anything come out of it? >> reporter: we will have to see what happens when democrats get together in about a half an hour from now and i talked to a source on capitol hill a few moments ago. they don't believe there are enough democratic defections to get this resolution over the finish line and if that doesn't happen, in search of a plan b. white house official says they don't think the house is going to go for a short-term resolution. at this

jon tester and heidi heitkamp, how are they going to keep their seats have everything they do is againstd trump? are they going to sit back and try to shut down the government again in three weeks? >> dana: the polling is interesting. quinnipiac said 75% of all americans say they support the dreamers being able to stay in america. i think that's one of the reasons schumer thinks they have some leverage to try to get it done but i also think it's by the president, sarah sanders announced he's going to lay out legislative framework on monday to deal with the dreamers and also a couple other issues. chain migration, the visa lottery and probably something on border security. he has a chance right now to be the person that figures out how to actually get this done because the situation is ripe. there is support for all of this. it's the margins that are the tough ones. i think in the middle you could get there. it's going to take the president to drive it. the president has the bully pulpit for a reason. whenever he lays out on monday will be super important. >> jesse: i think crying chuck i

he went with joe donnelly and heidi heitkamp to their states and included democrats in every part of the conversation, even now with these immigration talks. democrats have rebuffed every attempt to work with this president. i think it's time for them to set aside their partisanship and put the american people first. the president is going to continually reach out to them because he knows how much better we could do if we're working together. >> sandra: it's hard to believe we're about to flip the month on the calendar to february. here we are in an election year. how would you describe the current state of your party today? >> the state of the republican party is strong. first of all for all the reasons i just mentioned, our leader and the state of the economy and the accomplishments we can run on. we raised record money and 22 states and getting ready for the mid-terms. we know how important it is to keep the majorities so we continue down the path of prosperity president trump has put us on. it is that vital we keep these mid-terms and we're fighting as hard as we can at the rnc a

completely online operations, like an amazon also our guest host from 8:00 to 9:00, senator heidi heitkampe has been watching oil, oil prices that's a big deal in north dakota oil prices have risen to the highest level in over three years. we'll talk about those things and other issues in washington, including immigration. >>> i asked you yesterday if you knew who def leppard was do you >> no. i don't. you sent me home with homework >> listen up this is a band that sold 100 million records worldwide. >> i have heard this song before i didn't know the name >> they're still out there >> well there we go. >> the beatles predated me, the rolling stones predated me i'm familiar with their work >> am i because they're two of the great bands. >> the reason i'm asking about deaf f leppard, we have rick aln on, the drummer. incredible drummer came back after an accident after the breakout record pyro mania. he came back he came back had an amazing rovrrovr recovery and since then he's been doing all kinds of work for charities. he paynes, tapaints, takes pictt helps him with post traumatic stress h

it had been a gift from north dakota democratic senator heidi heitkamp and the custom of the talkingtick dates back to native american councils. the usefulness of such an object is obvious. it enforces the speaker's right to be heard and it forces the audience to listen. and as our teachers regularly reminded us in school, how can we listen if we're all talking? the group calls themselves the common sense coalition. about a quarter of the senate, it includes names like kuns of delaware, klobuchar, kaine, and lindsey graham of south carolina, who refers to collins' office as the switzerland of the senate. well, for now and for this time in our history, her office functions much closer to the way the entire senate used to function. and that is our broadcast for a monday night as we start a new week. thank you so much for being here with us and couldn't from nbc news headquarters from new york. shutdown is over but don't worry, in all likelihood, we'll have another one two weeks from thursday. >>> the government is back up and running this morning. lawmakers were able to agree on a thre

along with other notables such as lindsey graham, heidi heitkamp. the white house will present a group of proposals and requests to the assembled folks here today. they will tell them what the president wants on the wall, ending immigration loopholes, ending chain migration and a number of new i.c.e. agents the president wants to help enforce customs and immigration laws. stephen miller on tucker last night said he believes the president has the political high ground here, listen. >> if democrats oppose a border wall, they are saying they want continued unending illegal immigration. democrats ultimately have to make a choice. we are saying to them, if you want to make that deal, you have to deliver benefits for american families and american taxpayers, too. if they are willing to agree with those terms, we can have deal. >> attending will be the president, john kelly, the new homeland security secretary, the legislative affairs director who set a short time ago on fox business that he wants to reach a deal on this with democrats but doesn't understa

can see, it's beautifully beaded, and it was given to me by my friend, democratic senator heidi heitkampta, and it is originally from africa. >> stephen: yes, yes! as lawmakers discussed immigration and the future of our government, the only minority in the room was a stick. ( cheers and applause ) ♪ ♪ and, obviously, you'd think a bunch of powerful adults could play a kid's game without things getting ugly, but not so fast. because at one point, senator lamar alexander of tennessee forcefully tossed the stick toward senator mark warner of virginia, nearly shattering a glass elephant belonging to collins. wow! >> jon: whoa! >> stephen: a heated discussion almost destroyed the symbol of the republican party. i think the full details are available in this month's issue of "heavy handed metaphor magazine." ( laughter ) oh, that "fat cat" article, that "fat cat" article looks going good. everybody loves metaphors. the kids love metaphors. washington's still reacting to the news of president trump's alleged affair with porn star stormy daniels. ( thunder ) ( laughter ) that's enough. that's e

if he is democrats running in trump estates, claire mccaskill in missouri, heidi heitkamp and north dakotadonnelly in indiana, they will have tough races and he didn't want to shut down to go down longer and risk getting th. so i think he is gambling here a little bit, for sure. he is taking short-term heat with his base to say i will get you this eventually, i will get you this before daca runs out in march but i also think he's making a longer-term calculation that the midterms are going to be about donald trump in the end and that donald trump still remains unpopular and that he is taking some short-term heat and i think democrats did lose the short-term battle. i think long term, he thinks he can win the war. >> shannon: february 8th will be here before we know it. there will be another war or a fear battles between here and there as we near the cliff of a potential shutdown again. thank you both. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: you heard from the vice president about the big move of the embassy come a very ambitious timeline. but how is he looking to bring the partners in the region t

group and so she employed a native american talking stick, a gift from north korea senator heidi heitkampf what we said was correct except for the stick. it is not a product of this con -- continent but is from kenya. it simply means the holder of the stick gets to talk and everyone else gets a listen. we liked the story last night because it contained the words "common sense." today the "times" in effect asked for the talking stick back for just time to correct the record. and it remains a great native and african-american tradition and a reminder, as we said, that nothing is easy in the u.s. senate. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night. thank you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> this morning we're following new reports about oblgbob muells we learn more about who the special counsel has already met with. >>> plus authorities are searching for a motive after a 15-year-old on opened fire on his classmates inside a kentucky high school. authorities say two students were killed. >>> and the fight over immigration reform ramps up on

and it will be interesting to see if they can get it together to save people like joe and heidi heitkamp and the closest race of anyone in 2018. >> four congressional leaders meet on capitol hill to avoid a government shutdown and gina when you're talking about the fact that they after that meeting they came out with good news they weren't going to shutdown. can you imagine a store owner and a person running the store when you call to ask them how are things going and the only answer he has is we'll keep the doors open tomorrow, that exceptionally low bar by this congress and i think it's why they have the poll of 13% approval rating which is just below the 14% of americans who leave in big foot so there is within that factor can this president actually work with this congress when their bar now is just to keep the doors open. >> they better work with this president because this president has shown now has demonstrated now what he can do to an economy he's totally revitalized the economy and we all know the numbers they are tip top and every democrat and every republican should be thrill

people are dealing with the chilly temperatures better than others like north dakota senator heidi heitkampear as coat if it's below zero. enjoys coffee year around. in north dakota she very rarely shuts down the office because of ♪ the senator from north dakota says she does struggle with the d.c. summer heat. >> i remember walking out my house in june or july and it was 90 degrees and 90% humidity and it was only 9:00 in the morning. and i went who lives here? >> bret: iced coffee and 17 degrees today. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced and unafraid. continuing coverage of that house vote on the continuing resolution, the possible shut down. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. martha? >> martha: thank you, bret. it sure does. breaking tonight we are waiting as bret just said for the crucial vote on the house vote where they hope to avoid a government shut down there. are big gues questions tonight o big stories get to the heart of this evening as we watch that vote as it comes. in here is one. a new repor

for the postal solves, not only for the work they have doesn't but many people may not bit senator heitkamp and i worked on this quite a while. the postal service inspector general has worked with all inspectors general to put together a web site called oversight.gov getting the ig reports out for every group, and they're not named on that, their team was a major player on getting those reports out and that's exceptionally helpful to all of us. so just, publicly, we come at you we questions but thank you for that. health not related to this hearing but it's volleyball. >> -- it's valuable. >> we just had a side bar conversation. the postal service is -- they're out of money. they're heading for a situation -- what we call bankruptcy. we have an obligation on the committee congress to enable them to be successful and provide service, legitimate service that is needed and to better ensure the deliver of fentanyl and other and a quarter -- is is diminished and hopefully eliminated. set thaws jim tyree minder on another front. i'd ask -- i like -- i want to ask each of you, one by one, mr. murp

one would be certainly heitkamp, certainly manchin in west virginia, donnelly in alabama and i wouldhink claire mccaskill, a long-time incumbent, targeting her. sergeant is still up and strong in her state. are they going to try to pick them off by saying they're pro illegal immigrants? i want to talk about crime. certainly some people make crime into the country illegally. the daca people have a clean record because if they don't have a clean record they're not daca, isn't that a fact, charles? >> yeah, donald, that is a fact. that's why it is sort of concerning that they've decided basically to -- because i think that the daca fix should be easy. it is a humanitarian thing, there are huge bipartisan majorities in favor of it, close to 90% of the electorate wants to fix it. what is happening is because they're doing this hypertargeting to the trump base, they're now making it illegal, they're talking about killing people. by the way, tammy baldwin from my home state of wisconsin is one of those as well. a lot is on both parties, aimed at their bases and both parties right now are in

heitkamp hasn't said what she'd do, nor has mccaskill. and an update, senator heitkamp will support, though she says her vote is not an endorsement for a bill that kicks the can down the road another few weeks. that continuing resolution, in question and what the senate will possibly be voting on tonight. awaiting action in the senate. for a cloture vote and possible final vote that could happen tonight or sometime over the weekend. we just don't know. that would be funding the federal government through the middle of february and extending the children's health insurance program for six years. occurties son the line, round rock, texas, democrat. hi, curtis. caller: hi. host: what are your thoughts. caller: i think that they should all just go home and not vote and let donald trump suck it up and be a man and we can all watch him blow up and that would be fun. host: all right. caller: there's no future with a president like him. host: ok. republican line, calling from tennessee. joseph. go ahead, you've got the floor. caller: good evening

heidi heitkamp of north dakota gave me come several years ago when we were negotiating a bill, a talking stick. it's beautifully beaded and i used it to control the debate in the room because as you can imagine, when you have 20-25 senators sitting around an office, each thinks that he or she should be the first to speak, and there's a lot of crosstalk. and i wanted to make sure that in addition to everybody getting an opportunity to speak, everybody listen to one another pass this stick around. believe it or not it worked. we are not using it right now, we used it for all the shutdown meetings, and it did help to ensure that everyone had a chance to speak and to be heard. >> so you got other senators to obey? >> well, i don't know whether it was so unexpected that i would pull out this stick, but people were very respectful of each other's views. >> you talked about personal to president trump during the health care debate. what is president trump like behind the scenes? >> he tends to be very gracious, and he tends to listen. he will say, well, that sounds reasonable. now, sometimes wh

group and so she employed a native american talking stick, a gift from north korea senator heidi heitkampall of what we said was correct except for the stick. it is not a product of this con ne -- continent but is from kenya. it simply means the holder of the stick gets to talk and everyone else gets a listen. we liked the story last night because it contained the words "common sense." today the "times" in effect asked for the talking stick back for just time to correct the record. and it remains a great native and african-american tradition and a reminder, as we said, that nothing is easy in the u.s. senate. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night. thank you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> we are going to be joined live this hour by chuck schumer, the top democrat in the senate. we are about to get his first interview since the government shutdown. senator schumer had protesters outside his house tonight in brooklyn. there is a very robust and angry debate going on about why that shutdown happened anyway. why schumer and democrats

re-election this coming year in 2018 in the fall, including joe manchin of west virginia, heidi heitkamp as the newly elected senator from alabama, doug jones. so the party discipline holding as much as it needed to. the politics of a shutdown, the blame game, isn't quite the no-brainer alex than you might think it is. in 2013, there was mention in the sound bite there, most of the public polls revealed a blamed republicans who controlled congress at the time even though there was a democrat in the white house for the shutdown. yet at the end of the that year, the next election, republicans were able to add seats. so this is not a slam dunk as far as the politics are concerned. meanwhile, on the senate floor last night, that vote that started at 10:15 dragged on for two hours. i just talked to our casey honin just arrived on the scene. she was up last night. she said there was a lot of drama, a lot of huddles over the senate floor trying to find some common ground, trying to find a way out of this impasse. there is talk today of a short-term three-week spending resolution to kick the can

manchin and heidi heitkamp and all those that are running for reelection in states that the presidentwon, it's time to get that on. go early, go big and go now. >> jon: you think that freedom caucus members would join other house republicans in passing something out of the house? >> absolutely. that's the key. i'm done. i think the american public is done with pussy footing around with the senate. that's the key is that we have to make people be big boys and girls and take votes. >> jon: what about the senate democrats contention that daca has to be part of any funding legislation? >> it's not. we promised the american people to build a wall, no amnesty and everything else. and we are going to live by those agreements. you have a conversation about immigration, it shouldn't be attached to a funding bill and it shouldn't be used as extortion. from that standpoint if that's what you want, then let's get it on right now because the leverage is on our side. do it now, don't wait until the very end the last moment when bad deals are done. let's do what the american people sent us to do, pa

you can see, it's beautifully beaded and it was given to me by my friend democratic senator heidi heitkamp of north dakota, and it is originally from africa, and it is used to help control the debate in a meeting when you have a large number of loquacious people, and it was very helpful in making sure that everybody's voice got heard when we were doing the discussions in my office day after day after day. >> they use the same thing in my kid's kindergarten class. >> now, now -- >> is it true -- is it true, senator, that someone threw the stick during the meeting? >> i think a more accurate word would be that there was usually i would pick up the stick and take it from person to person, but sometimes it was tossed, and in this case, the toss went slightly amiss. >> with enough force to break a glass elephant on your shelf, is that true? >> it only chipped it. it wasn't -- it wasn't a disaster by any means. >> we'll take progress where we find it. not the stick throwing, i'm done with that now, but what did having the senators come together tell you about the prospects for the next 16 days?

heidi heitkamp of north dakota gave me come several years ago when we were negotiating a bill, i talking stick. it's beautifully beaded and i used it to control the debate in the room because as you can imagine, when you have 20-25 senators sitting around an office, each thinks that he or she should be the first to speak, and there's a lot of crosstalk. and i wanted to make sure that in addition to everybody getting an opportunity to speak, everybody listen to one another excel i would pass this stick around. believe it or not it worked. we are not using it right now, we used it for all the shutdown meetings, and it did help to ensure that everyone had a chance to speak and to be heard. >> so you got other senators to obey? >> well, i don't know whether it was so unexpected that i would pull out this stick, but people were very respectful of each other's views. >> you talked about personal to president trump during the health care debate. what is president trump like behind the scenes? >> he tends to be very gracious, and he tends to listen. he will say, well, that sounds reasonable. now

for instance, heidi heitkamp in north dakota.e has to vote to keep this open, if she doesn't, it could jeopardize her re-elect. so i think the other thing is, democrats are making -- saying the reason they didn't vote for this bill is simply because they want illegal immigrants to have legal status, and that's contradictory to republicans in trump's america first message. >> dave, same question to you. who stands the most to lose here as this continues? >> well, i think the polling that i alluded to earlier clearly is the latest evidence that shows the republicans are already hurting more than democrats. and that's because democrats are advancing the agenda of the american people. poll after poll consistently has shown the american people want a fingds to daca. cbs put out a poll the other day, 87% of americans want a daca fix. 79% of those are republicans. when it comes to c.h.i.p., the children's health insurance program that was part of the house bill that had the six-year extension, but not a permanent solution in extension o