board member heldfond aye. stansbury aye. thank you. >> president casciato: now we need the motion to -- on whether to disclose the discussions held in the other two closed sessions. >> i move that we do not disclose the decisions -- or discussions in the prior two meetings. >> i secretary. -- second. >> moved and seconded. any discussion? any public comment? >> thank you, a reminder to any callers to press star 3 to be added to the queue. moderator, any callers on the line? >> madame secretary, there is one caller on the line. >> thank you. caller, please state your name, your two minutes begins when you speak. hello. caller, you may begin. >> i'm actually waiting for a different item or general public comment. >> thank you. this is in regards to the closed session. moderator, do we have any other callers? roll call vote, please. >> commissioner bridges: aye. >> commissioner driscoll: -- >> commissioner driscoll: aye. >> commissioner gandhi: aye. >> commissioner heldfond: aye. >> supervisor safai: aye. >> commissioner stansb

board member heldfond aye. stansbury aye.nt casciato: now we need the motion to -- on whether to disclose the discussions held in the other two closed sessions. >> i move that we do not disclose the decisions -- or discussions in the prior two meetings. >> i secretary. -- second. >> moved and seconded. any discussion? any public comment? >> thank you, a reminder to any callers to press star 3 to be added to the queue. moderator, any callers on the line? >> madame secretary, there is one caller on the line. >> thank you. caller, please state your name, your two minutes begins when you speak. hello. caller, you may begin. >> i'm actually waiting for a different item or general public comment. >> thank you. this is in regards to the closed session. moderator, do we have any other callers? roll call vote, please. >> commissioner bridges: aye. >> commissioner driscoll: -- >> commissioner driscoll: aye. >> commissioner gandhi: aye. >> commissioner heldfond: aye. >> supervisor safai: aye. >> commissioner stansbury: aye. >> president

>> commissioner heldfond: to commissioners bridges and heldfond. >> vice-president casciato: let's have a respectful conversation, please. >> what i'm trying to understand, a week ago when i asked for a week to talk about this and consider the combining of roles, you all were ready to approve something that was still in draft form and push forward hard and now you want to leave latitude for some other sort of option? i guess that i don't understand what your angle is. >> vice-president casciato: i don't have an angle. >> and, number two, the discussion that you're referring to was as per the job description that we were working on, that mr. hudepohl was going to go in the market and research. if my memory serves me. it wasn't the wording of the terms of reference. >> that's correct. and that's the next item -- >> yes, that's right. it wasn't the wording of the terms of reference. that's correct. >> it's all one and the same. i think that i have made my point. thank you. >> vice-president casciato: okay, if you then, commissioner stansbury, can comment on why it is important for the c.e.