. >> well, i like to -- since youd helen kerl and for many viewers who don't know, i am visually impaired. and so, as a result o, folks often ask how is it you kw that somebody's inter -- i feel the energy and i think that's we my thrust of mist try comes from from internal feeling and i am always inviting folk to go in ad feel the power of the holy spirit moving and empowering you you and inviting you to activity. so that it may not be this magical mystical think. it may not be something that just,, but it may be just the silent moving of the inward motion that that you can feel that brings you such joy that warms your heart, and it changes you in that instance. >> that's powerful. i imagine people who come to you for counseling will feel that. is tt because, you think, of the extra extra dimension you have. >> i think because i don't see , i feel you. and i have to listey carefully for the nuances that e being spoken that i might not see in your body language. >> i see. >> in order for me to kind of gt a gist of what's being said bece sometimes we get trapped in the. we are looking to s