well helen marie ivanovitch was very well respected here in ukraine she was someone who understood understand this country very well she'd also been posted so ukraine and join a junior role before becoming ambassador she was outspoken in her criticism of failures to combat corruption on the part of the government that didn't make a popular with everyone but this was a through and through careful career diplomat not someone in the style of say trump's berlin appointee richard grinnell a more flashy media persona she was the consummate professional and someone who generally was very careful about what she said and to whom or what i want to pick up that will not point with regards to corruption with jonathan because during her testimony we heard time and time again micio about of it a point out that had always been to work on anticorruption efforts and that is why she believes she was targeted you mentioned jonathan that you've worked with her on such efforts tell me about her commitment to it yeah. well look there is there is no doubt every and this is again. i think the record in terms of our