piece | of work that helen mcnamara and i produced — of work that helen mcnamara and i produced l— ofroduced. , . ., of work that helen mcnamara and i roduced. , . . ._ we are going to step away from the covid inquiry, they have taken a break, adjourned for a short time. we've been following things very closely and if you've been following the proceedings, ijust want closely and if you've been following the proceedings, i just want to point out that there were two incidents when language where used. with the nature of this broadcast, it is not something we can pick up in time so i want to apologise. the first was a court and an apology by one of the witnesses and that was martin reynolds himself who was speaking, he's the former principal private secretary to the prime minister. and if you cut the language that was used in one of the whatsapp messages that has been submitted as evidence, if you want to keep yourself up—to—date with what has been said and what evidence has been submitted, to take a look at the bbc live page. you can also continue to watch the livestream of the inquiry.

the very experienced civil- servant helen mcnamara has said in her statement — servant helen mcnamarallective concerns that wrong people were i her statement there were collective concerns that wrong people were ini concerns that wrong people were in the room _ concerns that wrong people were in the room and — concerns that wrong people were in the room and saw _ concerns that wrong people were in the room and saw the _ concerns that wrong people were in the room and saw the prime - concerns that wrong people were in i the room and saw the prime minister was not _ the room and saw the prime minister was not being — the room and saw the prime minister was not being given _ the room and saw the prime minister was not being given sufficiently- was not being given sufficiently expert — was not being given sufficiently expert policy— was not being given sufficiently expert policy advice. _ was not being given sufficiently expert policy advice. would i was not being given sufficiently| expert policy advice. would you agree? — expert policy advice. would you agree? yes. _ expert policy advic

johnson treated helen mcnamara chaos.ould not have done? well. so.---— way that you would not have done? well, so,... , ., ., ~ well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes. well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes- excuse — well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes- excuse me- _ well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes. excuse me. i— well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes. excuse me. iwould _ well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes. excuse me. iwould like _ well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes. excuse me. i would like you i well, so,... yes or no, mr cummings? yes. excuse me. i would like you to i yes. excuse me. i would like you to listen to the — yes. excuse me. i would like you to listen to the question, _ yes. excuse me. i would like you to listen to the question, please. i listen to the question, please. helen mcnamara and martin reynolds produced a report which identified toxic cultural problems in number ten, people talking overjunior women, sexist, macho culture, and they describe a pretty unpleasant working at

this is an e—mail between yourself, i think the helen mcnamara and others dated the 13th of march.pm view and mine on those cobras is that they are hopeless, as decision—making entities, and actively cause trouble for comms, given theyjust brief immediately. so, there you are focusing on not on the practical difficulties of the data for the national security restrictions over the use of the room, but because you thought they were hopeless as decision—making entities and they cause trouble for cons. yes. on the 15th of march. _ cause trouble for cons. yes. on the 15th of march, and _ cause trouble for cons. yes. on the 15th of march, and a _ cause trouble for cons. yes on the 15th of march, and a whatsapp thread, numberten 15th of march, and a whatsapp thread, number ten action, 236, 371, page 52. this is a whatsapp centre after mark said well, now lord said by the cabinet secretary, had produced a note to the prime minister concerning the committee structure moving forward. the institution of something cold ministerial implementation groups and the 9:15am meetings. pm, it would be

other civil servants, he talked about helen mcnamara who a senior civil servant, a very rude world which will use on television, about her tonight his feelings toward her. —— i won't use the word. misogyny on downing street, the toxic atmosphere within downing street which was asked was he a part of that he said, no, he wasn't but he could see it was a toxic atmosphere. he wasn't but he could see it was a toxic atmosphere.— wasn't but he could see it was a toxic atmosphere. he was also asked about a meeting _ toxic atmosphere. he was also asked about a meeting on _ toxic atmosphere. he was also asked about a meeting on the _ toxic atmosphere. he was also asked about a meeting on the 19th - toxic atmosphere. he was also asked about a meeting on the 19th where l about a meeting on the 19th where somebody allege said were killing patient to tackle the humour, why we it destroying the economy for people who die soon anyway? difficult to hear from who die soon anyway? difficult to hearfrom bereaved who die soon anyway? difficult to hear from bereaved families. who die soon anyway? difficult t

you mr cummings, were the person who denigrated women, you denigrated helen mcnamara and you sent that did ou not? ., ., , her. did ounot? ., ., , ., did you not? no, that is not correct- _ did you not? no, that is not correct- i — did you not? no, that is not correct. i was _ did you not? no, that is not correct. i was not _ did you not? no, that is not i correct. i was not misogynistic i was much rude rear about men than i was much rude rear about men than i was about helen, i agree that my language is deplorable, but as you see for yourself i diblowed the same or worse language about the prime minister, secretary of state and other people. —— deployed. if you want to look at how we ran thing, unlike whitehall, i had two young women at my deputy, i hired young women at my deputy, i hired young women in the sign team, for vote leave campaign, i put a woman in her 30s in charge of it, much tow the rage of a lot of mps so if you look at the reality of how i ran teams, and how they got on with the private secretaries in number entering you will see the truth of the matter. —— number ten.

this is an email between yourself , i think helen between yourself, i think helen mcnamara and otherss in 13th of march. your email is in the middle of the page , the pm the middle of the page, the pm view and mine on those cobras is that they are hopeless as decision making entities and actively cause trouble for comms given they just brief immediately . so there you're immediately. so there you're focusing not on the practical difficulties of data for or the national security restrictions over the use of the room. but because you thought they were hopeless as decision making entities and they caused trouble for comms . yes. entities and they caused trouble for comms . yes . on the 15th of for comms. yes. on the 15th of march in a whatsapp thread number 10. action 236371 page 52 this is a whatsapp sent after sir mark sedwill , now lord sir mark sedwill, now lord sedwill, the cabinet secretary, had produced a note to the prime minister concerning the committee structure moving fonnard . the institution of fonnard. the institution of something called ministerial implementation groups a

and we're going to be hearing a little bit later in the week from someone called helen mcnamara.own in the first place. and that sort of panic in in number 10. and i think what dominic cummings will be doing is up certain parts is speaking up for certain parts of the civil service that tried to ministers in a certain to push ministers in a certain direction, but also a crucial criticism of boris johnson, which you heard a little bit yesterday. and will definitely be expanded on today, is not just that he wanted to sort of open things up, but just that he wanted to sort of open things up , but crucially, open things up, but crucially, that veered from one position that he veered from one position to the other. the analogy is of a shopping trolley crashing from side to side of the aisle one moment saying we've got to close everything down next everything down and the next saying, oh, it's fine, it's only killing people who die killing people who will die anyway. open back up anyway. let's open back up again. it's that indecision that i think will see a particular criticism of, yeah