and i'm joined now by helena marshall of friday's future activist here in berlin helena thanks for coming on the program this new law provides support for the transition to renewable energy and also for workers and regions his livelihoods are dependent on coal why are you protesting against it. because to keep our climate goals and to be in line with $4.00 degrees we need to exit coal at the very latest in the 2030 so we're seeing that almost a decade longer coal is being sustained through this lot and we're seeing also that earlier coal x. that is scientifically necessary is scientifically possible and is we can finance that so honestly this snow was more of a calling on geisha north because coal is not it's not only very much money in germany anymore 90 percent of coal power plants couldn't cover their own costs last year so to be honest if we could if we just let the free market rule for actually for once coal power plants were probably shut off on their own instead we are paying billions of euros for companies that are not earning anything from coal anyway in order for them to keep po

phil: was helena marshall.ermany takes on the european union rotating presidency for the next six months, angela merkel will be working closely with her former protege. it is something of a first of two german women at the helm of the e.u. they have to make sure the other member states are on board with their agendas. >> chancellor angela merkel has commissioned her protege who know and trust each other, but is the rest of the e.u. ok with two germans at the top? >> the questionable presidents is a coincident that two very powerful driven women are at the top. you know each other very well. is that helpful or a hindrance with respect to the other 26, may be afraid of too much german? >> we are talking about two dedicated europeans. that is what is more important here. but of course, i cannot forget my german interests either. but i'm very pleased it is to. germany, there had never been a female chancellor before me and in europe, there has never been a female commissioner president. in the past, two men has alw

thanks so very much for joining us here on the show where my guests are helena marshall an environmental activist with friday's for future she says supposed to stop the global warming we need to change the way we do things and to do so now i'm also with us is denial to read all from the business and finance paper i'm going to plot who argues that if the economy doesn't pick up then we'll be going right back to where we started because there's no more funding for climate friendly modernization. and the very woman who comes to this stuff on drums dolph he's a climatologist of the institute for climate impact research he believes the climate crisis is far more serious than the corona pandemic. thank you all 3 for being here thank you all 3 for your statements i'd like to begin. with you helen or climate change activists that you are. i'm guessing there was perhaps a moment in your life when you said or thought to yourself we can't go on like this you know if there was such a movement tell us about it and i would say it was more of like a process i was always kind of hearing of the climate c

so helena marshall fridays for future activist well as germany takes on the european union rotating presidency for the next 6 months german chancellor angela merkel will be working closely with former project european commission president a sort of underlying something of a 1st 2 german women at the helm of the e.u. now have to make sure the other member states are on board with their agenda. chancellor angela merkel and the commission president as well off on the line know and trust each other but it's the rest of the e.u. ok with 2 germans at the top we go to it's really a question to both presidents it's a coincidence that 2 very powerful german women lead these negotiations about the recovery fund and you know each other a row is that helpful or is it a hindrance with respect to the other 26 they may be afraid of too much germany. we're talking about 2 dedicated europeans that's what's more important here but of course i can't forget my german interests. and i'm very pleased to women in germany there had never been a female chancellor before me europe there's never been a female commission