helene cooper, thanks to you as well.r with geoff bennett. geoff? >> good morning to you. we are awaiting president biden who is expecting to hold a news conference at any moment from th

we are joined by helene cooper. it's no coincidence president biden stopped with our nato allies.sia. it's not seen that way from -- focused on china, not russia. apologies. from russia's perspective, they still see nato as a thorn in its side as it expands potentially eastward to include ukraine. >> yeah, thanks for having me. you are absolutely right. nato is a huge thorn in russia's side. look at the geography and you will see why. nato -- ever since the collapse of the soviet union, nato has been expanding to right next door to russia, literally. imagine if we had russia -- a russian sphere of influence expanding to include canada and mexico. we would be freaking out. which is why vladimir putin reacted the way he has, it's part of the reason why you see annexing crimea. it's why he amassed troops athe ooh -- at the ukrainian border. they withdraw 10,000. u.s. intelligence officials and defense officials say they think russia has upwards 80,000 troops at the ukrainian border. not because -- not necessarily because vladimir putin wants to invade ukraine. he just wants to make s

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and helene cooper, right here next to me, "new york times" pentagon correspondent. since you're my very first on-set guest ever since the pandemic, i'm coming to you. helene, your reaction to what we just heard from the president at the close of the g7 summit. >> first, thank you for having me. i feel like we're pioneers right now in studio. that was such a -- watching this press conference just now, that was such a normal g7 closing. it was what we're used to from past presidencies. it wasn't the frenetic, craziness of the trump g7 closings where you had him taking off on airs force one after angering everybody in canada for instance or blowing up something in europe. so it -- or even the remember in italy, was it in sicily, the first trump year where he was going around in a golf cart while the leaders were all walking along. you didn't have that spectacle. you had a traditional communique. you had the same give and take on china, on russia, on tariffs on trade that you expect from a g7 summit. and then you had the -- a lot of the niceties that come with it. but we

. >> joining me now is helene cooper who broke this and many other ufo stories for "the new york times we have a pandemic. we suddenly all have to take a vaccine. now but find out about aliens. this feels like the last two seasons of "the x files." what does it mean that our investigations are saying well, we're not telling you it's ale yen technology, but we can't tell you it's not alien technology. what does that mean? and what are we going to find out from this report? >> it means that we don't know what we don't know. what we do know from the report, and that's like the people that we talk to, one of them was very adamant about what i think is probably the most important thing that's coming out of this report is that none of this stuff is our stuff. and that's a pretty big deal because there was a lot of -- there were a lot of assumptions in the past that maybe there is secret cia drone program they were working on. maybe we were working on hyper sonic weaponry. we have a lot of secret types of defense systems, offense technology and the entire -- our entire stealth system, for ins

helene cooper, thanks to you as well. i know hallie is going to stick around next hour with geoff bennett. geoff? >> good morning to you. we are awaiting president biden who is expecting to hold a news conference at any moment from the nato summit in brussels. we'll bring it to you as soon as the president appears. >>> the g7 summit in the u.k. was about holding our closest allies. this summit may prove even more of a challenge with the country's alliance still unsure about the commitment to the nato pact which has shaped the world since 1959. >>> boris johnson threatens to end nato as we know it. the key to nato's purpose is offense. an attack on nato to one member is an attack to all of them. it's no coincidence that biden wants to solidify the nato pact and get everybody on the same page ahead of meeting him tomorrow in geneva, switzerland. prior to that, putin sat down with keir simmons in a world exclusive. >> are you waging a cyber war against america? >> where is evidence? where is proof? it's becoming farcical. we

. >> helene cooper, who is a great reporter on this beat, thanks for making time tonight. i appreciate it. that is "all in" on this thursday night. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. thank you my friend. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have thrown out the show as we sometimes have to do because we need to start tonight with some news that has just broken on the front page of "the new york times." this is a big deal. i will tell you we're about to speak with one of the reporters whose is bylined on the story. we're also about to speak with one of the subjects of this story. but in all the time i have been in this business, i have never covered anything quite like this before. i have never read about anything like this before happening in american politics, in government. as far as we know, nothing like this has ever happened before. but "the new york times" says tonight that it has, and the consequences remain to be seen. all right. let me spell this out. you may have read over the last couple of weeks n

. >> helene cooper, who is a great reporter on this beat, thanks for making time tonight. my friend. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have thrown out the show as we sometimes have to do because we need to start tonight with some news that has just broken on the front page of "the new york times." this is a big deal. i will tell you we're about to speak with one of the reporters whose is bylined on the story. we're also about to speak with one of the subjects of this story. but in all the time i have been

pentagon correspondent for "the new york times," helene cooper. and u.s. times," ed luce. >> dana carvey has his new calling. >> and the merv, a nice little calling card. i will hold the line, though, and say that jason sudeikis' joe biden remains the best to me. it's just so good and so over the top. >> we'll have to play that as well. >> a lot to get to this hour. president biden is set to meet with heads of the european council and european commission today, where he is expected to discuss u.s./eu relations along with his upcoming meeting with vladimir putin. nbc news chief white house correspondent, peter alexander has more from brussels. >> less than 48 hours ahead of that high-stakes summit with russian president vladimir putin, president biden calling him a worthy adversary, and delivering this warning. >> if he chooses not to cooperate and acts in a way that he has in the past, relative to cybersecurity and some other activities, then we will respond. >> reporter: the president also denouncing putin's crackdown of his political opponents when asked

correspondent and host of "way too early" kasie hunt and pentagon correspondent for "the new york times" helene cooper geist and mike barnicle still with us back in new york. good to have everybody here. >> so, willie, and mike, you listen to some of what was said yesterday and some of those clips and the argument that the federal government should always stay out of elections, never question states, which was basically the gist of mitch mcconnell's argument, really does sound like what you heard in the '50s and the '60s, early '60s. and we don't want to conflate things here. i think a lot of democrats on the hill would say hr-1 was a bad bill front to back. that there were some good provisions in there, but overall it was not going to pass, and that's what they were voting on yesterday, but at the same time there's no doubt you've got republicans, mitch mcconnell the first among all of them, that are not going to do anything to stop state legislatures who are working as we speak to be able to overturn the will of voters. they've changed the rules to do that in georgia, they're changing the rules to d