robert frank, breson, helmut newton, the list goes on. sally mann, i love sally mann.otography. i feel like i am an encyclopedia inside of this photography. it is so great to have it in your head. when i was photographing the queen and said i am thinking about cecil beaton, and she said you really have to find your own way. i was like very disappointed because i had based the shoot on him. charlie: that's great. didn't she said for a portrait? annie: yes, that was a strange, interesting painting. it was more crown then head. that is such an important point, just to bring up the fact that she sat. she really understands who she is in that respect. if she gives herself over, she knows she is going to be interpreted in so many ways. she like that painting. if i were her -- i love lucian freud. charlie: so i think you have said this, and i hope you have. annie: me too the way you are saying it. charlie: you welcome age and learn from age. annie: i have said that. it is not talked about enough, how interesting it is. charlie: i do too. annie: it is really exciting. doesn't

. >> rose: irving penn and richard avadon and helmut newton and diane arbus. you know, sally man, i love sally man, i lovlin davis. i mean i love photography. and i just eat it up. i feel like i'm an encyclopedia inside of this photography. and it is just, it's so great to have it in your head when you go off, you know, when i was photographing the queen and said well, i really in thinking about cecil b as i'm taking your picture. and she said, airchie, you've really got to find your own way. >> rose: is that the way to talk. >> annie, you must really find your own way, she was very disappointed because i sort of based the shoot on cecil b. >> rose: isn't this greats. here is the queen who sits for you. didn't she sit for lucien ford portrait. >> yes, that was a very strange, interesting painting. it was more crown than it was head. but i-- that is such an important point you are bringing, just to bring up the fact that she sat, she really understands who she. is in that respect 679 and she gives herself over. she knows she is going to be, you know, interprete