those 2 documents that december 2021 is helsinki. 2 point. oh um. the problem there is that the europeans are absolutely no mood for any kind of the helsinki process. so even if some kind of a global conference were arranged under the auspices of the united states, they wouldn't do anything. i mean they, they wouldn't agree on anything. all that would happen is that the europeans would be there, you know, the carrier call us and it was the live on the line and then it will, wherever is the german chancellor, you're freed right much and they would spend that time yelling and ranting and raving against the russians, they wouldn't agree to anything. and that's why the, the think, you know, if, if of things, what would russia settle? what i mean? obviously there's the issue of the, for all blessed with, you know, rep address is not in full control. that's one thing, and then those the live belong to and security guarantees. and it's very hard to see how it can get those long term security guard just given the mood in the europe . the. the danger, howeve

security guarantees for all we're all old enough to remember the helsinki process. we're not the so all that we met, we member you all to but it, we need something yelled a yell to slash helsinki process. it. trump isn't a hurry. you can't get this. the kind of stuff done quickly, george, where you call, and then you're, you're actually right. the zip um, what the referee is looking for and that, and it has been since ever since it issue those 2 documents of december 2021 is helsinki 2 point. oh, um, the problem there is that the europeans are absolutely no mood for any kind of the helsinki process. so even if some kind of a global conference were arranged under the auspices of the united states, they wouldn't do anything. i mean, they, they wouldn't agree on anything full, but what happened is that the europeans would be there, you know, the carrier call us and it was the live on the line, and then it will, wherever is the german chancellor. jo friedrich much and they would spend that time yelling and ranting and raving against the russians, they wouldn't agree to

those 2 documents in december 2021 is helsinki. 2 point. oh um. the problem there is, uh the attends, are absolutely no mood for any kind of the helsinki process. so even if some kind of a global conference were arranged under the auspices of the united states, they wouldn't do anything. i mean, they, they wouldn't agree on anything. all that would happen is that the europeans would be there, you know, the carrier call us and it was the live on the line and it, wherever is the german chancellor. jo friedrich much and they would spend that time yelling and ranting and raving against the russians, they wouldn't agree to anything. and that's why the, if of things that were, what were the rushes settle for? i mean, obviously there's the issue of the for all blessed with, you know, rep address is not in full control. that's one thing. and then there's the live, the long term security guarantee is. and it's very hard to see how it can get those long term security guard just given the mood in europe. the. the danger, however, for russia is that if it say

and then, of course, that helsinki summit. so this is the beginning of a new relationship, i guess a reset relationship. and it will be certainly one to watch with massive implications. >> thank you. and yeah, i just want to make sure i heard that correctly because obviously, as you said, visiting japan and visiting moscow are like, you know, visiting different planets at this point geopolitically. thank you so much, jeff. and, you know, jeff is talking about helsinki and all of these really historical moments during trump won, but those are the before times. and by the before times, i mean before russia invaded its neighbor, a democracy, ukraine, which made russia's president and the russian people, i mean, the russian people, a lot of them suffered because of it. but the russian government, um, absolutely. to use a trump term on the enemies list, geopolitically. and now you have trump saying, well, you know, maybe i'll go there. it's obviously all part of a larger dance that we're now seeing bubble up into the public. you ha

and russian need some kind of a helsinki to point to some sort of a security architecture for a future arrangement in europe. so when we don't go back to the inevitable in the next herbal, nato expansion and threatening russian security. so the use of a prime concerns of russia, which is not clear the trunk can deliver trump once the immediate ceasefire, then the all blessed will not be brought on the full russian control. moreover, any future security conference will involve the europeans has to beef is going to be kind of the helsinki 2 point oh, and the europeans. and now, so russel phobic, so absolutely demented and determined to provoke some kind of a what was the rush of the little purpose would be somebody in the search conference. i mean, to just be an opportunity for the likes of kind of call us and alina bab, book and, and the rest of them just to rant and rave against russia, so it wouldn't serve any real purpose. so it's a very difficult situation. the russian would soon find it so well, the wow. the united states is offering normalization of relations. on the other hand, r

to helsinki process, resolve the issues of the 2nd world war. we need another one to codified the end of the cold war in the new realities. big picture, it doesn't have to be about ukraine. it can be about everything about security for all that would work, but there is no political will for it in well, are you in, joshua is still a good document. it's just that we've kind of cost that aside as well as imposes this notion of a little space international. and so news is a dk divide existing goals and increases non k to flights of the rules are new. they can apply new to, to countries with a name, you know, they disagree. so another conference i mean, really works is for every parties of mine to type on an equal basis until that happens. you know, if it's only going to be less than dominated kind of form, most likely it can adverse lead skis, you know, piece some, it's last year to which, you know, much of wasn't invited and most people didn't attend the knots. nobody going to be the on, so i that was, well, obviously, but, you know, when you think

in early december, someone called the us embassy in helsinki and made a threat. within two weeks' time, someone will carry a bomb on board a pan am flight from frankfurt to the united states. david: people working for us agencies were made aware of that warning... ..and were given the chance to make alternative arrangements. whereas the normal traveling public weren't given that chance. the american authorities put notices up on the noticeboards of their embassies, telling them that there'd been a terrorist threat to these flights, and they might want to avoid them to get home for christmas, you see, to their families in the united states. interpol warned airlines and police authorities in 147 countries. reporter: the anonymous phone call to the us embassy in helsinki, finland, was very specific and perhaps very prophetic. victoria: lo and behold, there were over ten different bomb warnings on these flights. and we wanted to know who got the warnings and what did our government do about it? woman: we receive dozens of threats each day. we notified the people who

we remember back helsinki.5, where he refused to condemn vladimir putin and said the united states kills people as well. this false equivalency between barack obama and vladimir putin, in fact, there was no equivalency. he attacked obama and said at least putin was a strong leader who, yes, killed journalists and killed killed politicians. but here you have the new york post, the wall street journal editorial page. i know you've got republicans on the hill, on the house and the senate side who obviously are going to vehemently disagree with what donald trump has said. what can you tell us about what what what went into this, the thinking here and also what his negotiators, what marco rubio, who has been an ardent cold warrior throughout his career, what they must be thinking right now. >> yeah, i mean, look, this goes. >> back a. >> long way for trump. he has bought. >> into the russian. >> line for a long time that it was ukraine, not russia. >> that interfered in the 2016 election. and they interfered, as he

like at this summit in helsinki in 2018.trump seems to have a wary admiration for the russian strongman, and he says they enjoyed a long, productive phone call today, even promising to visit each other�*s countries. on social media, he posted... there have actually been over 100,000 deaths not millions. and he went on... thatjust raises so many questions. when there is so much hurt here, and there's so much funding that our people need. so although we have always been the country bailing everybody out, i think, at a certain point, we need to take a step back, and see, like, are our people hurting? people the return last night of marc fogel, an american teacherjust released from a russian prison and welcomed to the white house, helped set the positive mood between the two nations. i want you to know that i am not a hero in this at all, and president trump is a hero. it is all part of a carefully choreographed diplomatic dance, a rapprochement between russia and america that must be deeply worrying to ukraine. earlier on wedne

remarkable summit in helsinki between the two.lly, president trump, who broke a lot of china, if you will, to mix metaphors because he sided with president putin over his own intelligence officials on whether or not there had been russian interference in the election, and that eventually, months later, did result in the firing of his national security director. interesting. on a day when we've got tulsi gabbard just confirmed as the new national security, national intelligence director, so it was dan coats who ended up out of office because he pushed back and said that the intelligence was solid in real time. just after that, that past summit. but in this case, you've got a war of this hot war going into his third anniversary coming up, i'll be going to munich to cover that meeting on friday and a lot of other things as world leaders gather there. and zelenskyy, of course, is such a major player. but the fact that president trump has talked to zelenskyy today, that there are, you know, negotiations about to begin, we believe in th

and the bicameral members of the helsinki commission. this clash of civilizations that i'm talking about is a very serious national security threat. many of the really dangerous events and people's that we have had to fight in the last decades have emerged from the other side of that clash. from countries where there was not rule of law, from countries where kleptocrats ruled, where legitimate government had been taken over by criminal organizations. so i think there's a strong record of that. we are trying to show that record into these cases about the corporate transparency act. so i'm hoping that there will be a bit of a reversion. they came in and fentanyl was a huge issue for them. i respect the attorney general's desire to focus all the efforts of the department of justice on these cartels. i do think that, as other countries we've been working with against this international dark economy and the criminality that it supports, come forward and push, it will seep back in. i also think that if you are really going after the cartels, y

and we look at companies, for example, like helsinki, using ai to build real world defense systems.xima, using ai to accelerate the build out of fusion power power plants. and additionally, there are a bunch of other european companies in asia, 11 labs, maybe liverpool, who are using ai to generate voice audio code. so i think there is so much excitement about the applications that are being built. maybe there are more headlines going to the models, but i think the change around the models is happening so rapidly, and companies coming up with ten x better models, and i think the carpet may have been maybe may get pulled out. but application, i think we're seeing real value being created by lots of entrepreneurs. >> is that what you think the profitability for ai businesses will be? because when you look at the models, there's a lot of debate about whether they will become commoditized, whether open weight or open source models eat the lunch of some of those closed. >> models as well. >> i imagine that on the model side, we're going to see probably both. we'll see a lot of open sourc

and what i asked in helsinki, i think back then, was also what do you do you blame russia at all for this? to the deterioration in this relationship. and i also asked putin back then if he had wanted trump to win. and he said yes. well, you can see why. um, he president trump back then and now, uh, has a lot of respect for autocratic leaders, as we know. and it's almost kind of rich to hear him calling president zelenskyy a dictator when you can see how he's treating president putin. >> yeah. all right, everybody, stand by. coming up, the most important relationship in the united states of america right now. that's right. it's president trump and elon musk. they sat for a joint discussion, let's call it last night. we're going to talk about that friend fest next. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you. new saturday on cnn. >> want a next level clean swish with the whoa of listerine? it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean with listerine. feel the. whoa! >> i told you i don't need these anymore

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this meeting was vitally to me in helsinki, in 2018. it fell into a lot of narratives around the great history of russia about it's sacrifice in the 2nd world war. never mind the fact that you pray and actually lost a lot more troops and civilians in the 2nd world wars and russia, it is part of the soviet union or composite elements of the soviet union. he did not mention of course, and he did not mention either it in the written statement for the more we now, but it was russia that is the dresser. in this case that is violated international law. and then when he made a mention of the team, but he's at some point to leave these negotiations, it's clear that he is very effective, right? so we, so by the release of mark fogel, a teacher was imprisoned the, and brushed up for years, who was just for at least, but he didn't, he failed to mention his lead, a special on wait for you, pretty much the negotiations general can well. so again, we're falling into similar patterns, but we saw him 1st from administration, only this time the stakes a

oh, i mean, big picture stuff, you know, another helsinki, the process um, you know, have a resolution to a hosting he process would resolve the issues of the 2nd world war. we need another one to codified the end of the cold war in the new realities. big picture, it doesn't have to be about ukraine. it can be about everything about security for all that would work, but there is no political will for it in well, are you in, joshua is still a good document, is just to kind of cost that aside as well as imposes this notion of a little space international order, so you know, they've defied existing rules and increases non kind of flights of goals or new. they can apply new to, to countries with a, you know, they disagree the sites. another conference i mean, really works is that every parties allow me to type on an equal basis until that happens. you know, if it's only going to be less than dominated, kind of form must like the converse lives keys, you know, piece somebody's last year. twitch in their life and wasn't invited and most people didn't attend the knots, nobody going to be the

i remember being in helsinki and vietnam and singapore and you'd scare the living daylights and say just in case you don't know what you are being spied on they probably bugged your room and absolutely have a bug on your phone and i said thank you dan i really appreciate the good news. in all seriousness though what goes on behind the scenes in a case like this? >> sean a lot is going on behind the scenes and i can tell you a lot of work has been done behind the scenes by the intelligence community and diplomatic staff. the question of why vladimir putin chose to give up a prisoner do remember that mark vogel was arrested three years ago and he was in jail sentenced now 14 years. vladimir putin sees this as part of a larger relationship with the united states the negotiations we might embark on and they might see an opportunity for a grand bargain where in the event of a deal on ukraine we eliminate some of those sanctions hurting the russian economy which is an unbalanced wartime economy. a lot is at stake but putin wanted to deliver a message to the united states. it doesn't look like

i'm thinking specifically of the helsinki press conference when he said -- vladimir putin told me heything to our elections. now he has ratcheted that up with calling zelenskyy a dictator. if you are the leader of a baltic nation, the leader of poland, of germany, france, you must be scared out of your mind about what this means. about what the redbrick of ukraine means for europe. and if you are in taiwan, you better be prepared for what china can do. geoff: what about this idea that it is high time we had an american leader that acted in such a way that effectively forces europe to take control of their own security? you can point to dwight eisenhower who raised concerns about europe's lackadaisical approach to its own security? >> it is a valid point. as long as the cold war was going on, they did not have to pay their dues. now they have to because the cold war is over. but they have increased their spending. the amount of spending donald trump wants to spend as a percentage of gdp, not even we pay that. look at what donald trump has said about ukraine over the last week. he send

but there's also the helsinki accords, which say to doctors, you cannot stop a trial once it starts, if there are going to be side effects, what are these medical professionals supposed to do? >> you're not asking the right person in this instance, andrea, i, i the dilemmas, the moral and ethical dilemmas that are being confronted, the ethical dilemmas as well being faced by our ambassadors around the world, our ambassadors. everywhere you go around the world. talk about the value of usaid in building up america's political capital. when those same ambassadors go and try to get access for an american company to set up shop in a country that that political capital matters. when we seek to extradite somebody from a country, that political capital matters. now, these ambassadors are in this really horrific situation where the countries are pleading with them, please keep these programs. and the ambassadors, of course, are being instructed to repeat some of the lies that are being told about what us aid has done and how we've lost our way. and 60% of usaid programing is life saving human

. >> saying things like he said at the helsinki press conference in. >> 2018, in response. >> to your question. >> that he. >> trusted vladimir. >> putin more than they own his own. >> people, that he put. >> in to run the intel community. >> at the. >> same time. >> his vice president was going to western europe, delivering speeches that were reagan esque, anti soviet, anti-russian, anti-russian aggression. you you, of course, also had republicans. >> in the senate. >> at the same. >> time when donald. >> trump was saying things that caused grave concerns. >> among many republicans. >> they were passing the toughest sanctions that had ever been passed on russia. so we'll see if this is. >> an opening bid. >> we'll see if you, in fact, have have russians. having to actually step up. and make sacrifices at the negotiating. table if. >> they want it to end. >> or whether this is, again, a radical. >> new step. >> a radical. >> new direction for the. >> united states foreign policy, regardless the cost, the impact of that on our foreign policy, even. >> if it. >> is, even if it's reeled.

. >> helsinki, july 2018 at a high stakes summit, trump inexplicably let putin off the hook for russia'selection meddling. >> i have great confidence in my intelligence, people, but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. >> that was the kind of thing where putin was able, i think, in some ways, to very craftily control the room. >> trump has denied being a mark for putin's manipulations. >> he'd rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet, no puppet. >> it's pretty. >> clear you're the puppet. >> how might putin try to shape the relationship this time around? >> i think that president putin will try to convince president trump that he doesn't need the international order, that they can just make deals, the two of them, and leave the rest of the world out of it. >> evelyn farkas warns that if president trump lets that happen, it will embolden other strongmen to take dangerous actions and simply try to negotiate it all with the president directly. she points to chinese leader xi jinping and the provocative moves he could make with ta

and what's different also here from trump's first term, where, you know, after that summit in helsinki with president putin, where trump sided with putin over u.s. intelligence, we saw the fallout from senate republicans, from trump's own advisers on that, convincing him that he had to say something afterwards. that is not what's happening here. instead, we are seeing people like the vice president, jd vance, amplify trump calling zelenskyy a dictator. among his other claims that he made earlier in that post. and so the same with the white house, really just, you know, elevating this and saying, this is the official white house line. this is not some one off. this is truly the position of the administration. and that's what's notable going into this period, as we're expecting president trump and president putin to meet in the foreseeable future. >> i mean, there's very little, very few republicans criticizing president trump. does the white house even care about any congressional reaction at this stage? >> i think it depends on what it looks like in terms of senate republicans. we're s

. >> in helsinki. when he. >> took vladimir putin's word over his own intelligence agencies. he refused to say in his debate against kamala harris that he even wanted ukraine to win this war. so the ukrainians have every right to be deeply suspicious of donald. >> trump's motives. and it's a bad sign. >> that one. his own secretary of defense. is negotiating against himself, as opposed to against russia in his first week in office. and number two, that they're going to saudi arabia to talk directly to vladimir putin. thereby platforming. him without inviting the ukrainians to these negotiations on their own future. there can be no negotiations with russia that are not met simultaneously by continued support for ukraine's war making capability, and also by inclusion of ukraine in the process. >> let's talk about the mass government firings, because ap is reporting thousands of irs workers may be laid off. right now it is tax season. jobs are also on the chopping block at the housing department, also at us health agencies. cbs obtained a termination letter to a health and human

he wants to pull putin in and have that moment that his version of helsinki all over again, whatever you want to call it, thinking, even if you believe what rubio says, look, this is just round one. we're just bringing them in and listen to kellogg and what he's telling the ■allies. yo know, the us is still going to defend europe. the us is still going to defend nato. this is just our way to get things started. i think just nobody believes it. i heard you say in the last segment, nobody knows who to believe when it comes to anything this administration says, unless it comes from trump's lips himself. >> well. >> it's also putting republicans in a really difficult position. even republicans who do support the president. senator thom tillis had some strong words for the trump administration. i think we've got that sound for you here. >> i support. >> president trump, and i believe that most of his policies on national security are right. i believe his instincts are pretty good. but what i'm telling you, whoever believes that there is any space for vladimir putin and the future of a sta

the summit is not happening in geneva, in helsinki.t is happening in riyadh, in saudi arabia that is sending the message here that russia is playing a bigger role. and volodymyr zelenskyy is a bystander at this point. of course, he likely will not be at the end of this, but there is no doubt the next step after these meetings tomorrow could be a summit between donald trump and vladimir putin, and that would be extraordinary. >> yeah, it's just remarkable how fast these things have turned and remarkable yet again. we saw it in the first term. you covered it very closely. mohammed bin salman and saudi arabia's role in centrality in all of this will certainly be something to watch in the days and weeks ahead. jeff zeleny for us. west palm beach, thanks so much. i want to turn to our politics lead now. today, four top deputies to new york city mayor eric adams resigned. this after the outgoing u.s. attorney for manhattan accused the mayor of agreeing to cooperate with president trump's immigration plans if the justice department threw out

we're showing pictures there of the famous or infamous meeting between trump and putin in helsinki in 2018, when trump notably took putin's side regarding u.s. intel assessments of russia's interference in the 2016 election. we're getting some outlines of the trump administration plan for ukraine, as spearheaded by keith kellogg, his envoy, which seems to include territory as it stands in, in other words, freeze the lines where they are and give ukraine some sort of security guarantees. do we do we have any more details as to what those guarantees would be, and what else might be included in a deal? of course, with the proviso none of this is agreed until the sides agree. >> exactly. and we don't know what the administration specifically is proposing. i mean, there's a lot of talk right now in the foreign policy community actually being pretty specific about outlining. how could you do this? but we don't know what the administration exactly wants to do. i mean, look at some of the issues. you have an enormous border that would have to be protected if there were some type of ceasefire.

you know, i was thinking about how shocked everybody was back in 2017, in helsinki.o you remember that when he was standing next to vladimir putin, essentially said that he believed vladimir putin over u.s. intelligence agencies and people thought, oh, that's that's really remarkable. well, in retrospect, that was relatively harmless. now, when he is embracing vladimir putin, you know, it might be the destruction not just of ukraine's independence, but really of the entire nato alliance. i mean, which ally around the world right now can say we trust the united states, and we believe they are a reliable ally. and that will have long term implications. >> okay, then we shouldn't be shocked. but given how we're negotiating or what the president and his defense secretary are saying, how dangerous is this for america's standing in the world? >> well, it's incredibly it's incredibly dangerous. it is incredibly dangerous because you basically have 70, 80 years of the western alliance, which is being, you know, put put to the torch by, by, by donald trump and doing it in, in

the democracy programs because, you know, this year we're coming up to the 50th anniversary of the helsinkict that established as a principle of international law, that strong linkage, inescapable linkage between democracy and security. and it's been recognized for decades by the western world that investments in democracy, investments in human rights, this is not charity. these are not gifts. this is investment in international security, because this is the way to make our world more secure. and, you know, you showed a few moments ago you showed images from the oval office and the white house. i noticed that there's now a portrait of president reagan in the oval office. well, president reagan, more than four decades ago, was the american president who established this infrastructure for the support of democracy, for the support of human rights worldwide, for the support of independent businesses and trade unions and autonomous universities. because he understood and he spoke very often about the fact that this is not charity, that this is investment in international security, this is inves

we saw that when they kicked everybody out, i believe, at helsinki or wherever. he met privately with vladimir putin during the first administration. but i think the big question is if donald trump is suggesting he talks to putin about ending the war under what terms? because if he is talking to putin about ending the war, that gives concessions to russia. that is antithetical to everything that the western world has been working on since the invasion. and certainly the current policy of the united states. but we saw the erosion in the republican congress during the biden administration about its support for ukraine. we saw the sympathies even of tulsi gabbard articulating themes that are sympathetic to russia when it comes to the russia-ukraine war. and so what are they talking about and what will donald trump suggest is the deal? i think we're all bracing for proposal by donald trump that actually sacrifices some of ukraine's sovereignty. and how does the western world respond to that? what do republicans on the hill do? i think we know what they will do, but t

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