the henner family has been there for three generations now. is there going to be a fourth in trading? >> i think it's unlikely honestly. you never know. i don't have any children particularly interested in trading, but, you know, electronics has completely changed the industry and changing the way that u.ly has -- ultimately allowed the volume to go to numbers we couldn't have imagined 20 years ago, and ultimately is provided a much fairer even playing field for most of the participants. you know, the professionals in the game no longer have the ability to react faster to get better prices and to have any real advantage over the normal retail trader. >> and so what did the merk people think about the board of trade, and perhaps someone from the board of trade here can address that. >> i'm not sure why there was essentially such an ongoing culture clash. you know, but the board and the merk could never seem to really get together. there was talk of merging the two exchanges back when i started in the business, and for one reason or another, the