>> oh, my grandfather was the first member of the henner family to trade. and he went to the merc, i believe, in the early '40s, he started trading there back when they were still trading onions. but i think he primarily traded in the egg markets. >> so, and what was, to your knowledge, what was the merc like then? >> you know, it was much, much smaller building. i have, actually, i went to work for the first time at the old merc in 1969 when i was all of 16 years old. i had a summer job working there, and at that time i think there were a total of 500 members, most of them weren't even there on any given day, so it was, you know, probably three, maybe four -- 300 or so actual live traders on the floor. it was much, much smaller. i remember, you know, there were only really three products that were trading. they were hogs, there were cattle, and there was the real, you know, most important contract which was frozen pork bellies. >> so, and tell me about the pork belly pit. how did people trade it? they traded it in pits and talk about that. >> right. >> and