doctor gupta and doctor hennigan from oxford university were among those who signed them, and carl henniganave used on challenging some of the government figures. it is a big debate here, and we are reflecting all shades of opinion in what can be quite a polarised situation. i want to ask a bit more about that, because, with the debate so polarised, the bbc is in a really tricky position. if you portray the official policy you run the risk of being seen as a mouthpiece for the government, and if you highlight the opposite view, the audience complain, and they do complain, that they are becoming confused and cynical. can you give an insight into your approach as a bbc journalist and how much coverage to give each side? boris johnson himself said at his most recent press briefing that there were two ends of this debate in the spectrum. one was that we had to go for tougher lockdown measures than what the government was proposing at the moment in england, that is, and the other end of the spectrum is that any form of restrictions even now, never mind more, was unacceptable because it was damag

. >> steve, thanks i need to get to greg hennigan, the general manager of the golden nugget hotel andasino right there at lake charles. i think the worst of it is on you. what are you seeing? >> it's pretty fierce out there but the wind is roaring back there. >> is this about what you expected have you been able to survey at all? >> yes, i stuck around for hurricane laura as well so we kind of knew what to expect. it's right on us. >> how in the world can you recover when you keep getting hit over and over again? >> it's frustrating, very frustrating. it's got to be frustrating for our first responders that are with us as well, to go out and start from square one again. so it's tough. >> you have evacuees there too, right? how do you deal with covid amid these storms >> safety is still our top priority so we're still enforcing the mask policy and social distancing. but we do have over 500 first responders staying with us and they're ready to get to work tomorrow morning after this passes. >> i was going to ask you, what is your plan tomorrow? i know what you do the day after a storm,

professor hennigan from oxford university center for evidence-based medicine says after 20 years of pandemicstwo decades, we're still not sure about universal masking. the cdc study that the president was quoting showed that 70% of people who got the virus had worn masks all the time. over 80% almost all the time. so i think it's sort of a lame, bizarre obsession at this point to claim that everyone must have a universal masking when really the cases explode through it, we have states, we have l.a l.a. county, miami-dade county, hawaii, we look all over the world. spain, france, u.k. mask mandates don't work. the president has a rational common sense mass policy which is you cannot socially distance, you are mask particular when you are high-risk. i think americans are getting a little bit sick of this obsession with masks. when you go to the states, you go to pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, you have people who are frustrated. they want to get back to their normal lives. they don't want to have a generation of neurotic children wearing masks like, you know, the bubonic plague is everywhere