what is henry ford up to today?u worship henry ford and you think the big cities are suspicious anyway you don't care what the new york times says in the editorial or the chicago tribune. but when your local paper carries a "new york times" wire service story about where the vagabonds camped last night and this wonderful thing that happened that was amazing that you just have to read about, they had to run those stories, too. the big media in many ways look ed down on them, but had no choice. they still had to cover them. susan: here's another bit of film. this one is the combination of henry ford and naturalist burrows, and it looks like they were having a tree chopping contest. [laughter] you can talk over this because it is silent of course. jeff: this is 1920, john burrows is very sick. there was a business slump so the vagabonds were going to go -- not going to go out on the trip at all, but they needed to show the have faith in the business community. richwent to a place only people went, this is the only time

henry?p in the sense that those who have been put out of work by the pandemic in the hospitality industry and others are not necessarily those who are most aligned with his base. they include a lot of blue—collar workers. they are not the fortunate ones were all they have to do to continue working is to have a laptop and a strong wi—fi connection. the blue—collar workers have been suffering. they will be watching to see how the economy comes back and whether trump is at the forefront of that. henry, i wanted whether trump is at the forefront of that. henry, iwanted to whether trump is at the forefront of that. henry, i wanted to pick up on something you said about looking for billions to blame. president trump and his secretary of state have spoken about evidence that the virus started or spread from a laboratory in wuhan. we don't have an enormous amount of time to talk about that. the chinese have said they didn't. why doesn't he put this to rest by inviting the who to organise a big inter

henry, you wanted to come in. yes.n the sense those that have been put out of work by the pandemic, for example in the hospitality industry and other industries are not necessarily those who are most aligned with his base, who include a lot of blue—collar workers and are not the fortunate ones who all they need to do to continue working is to have a laptop, a strong wi—fi connection, and their home—made lattes by their side. the blue collar workers will be watching to see how the economy comes back. let's turn to henry, something you said about looking for villains to blame. president trump and his secretary of state talked about enormous evidence that the virus started or spread from a wuhan laboratory. we don't have an enormous amount of time to talk about this and the chinese have said it didn't. why hasn't beijing put this to rest by inviting the who to organise a big international investigation to come and just investigate it to the roots and just have done with it? that is asking why a tiger doesn't change its st

henry, you start us off.nal calamity. after they did so, they felt it was a time they could reset the terms of society. it wasn't just about winning the war, it was winning the peace and deciding what kind of a nation britain would be thereafter, which created the national health service that saved the life of our prime minister. so i would hope that after this the brits take a look at their society and decide what kind of new footing they want to be on. nesrine, a thought from you. it's always a flawed exercise to say, you know, what would the second world war generation have done... but tell me in one sentence! i will indulge that thought which as we are all in lockdown, everyone is feeling aggrieved they can't go out and do their things they like to do but it is a tale to remember — there was a time when these nations suffered for four or five years and we can get through a few months. thank you. and jo. following on from that, it is a bit of a strange juxtaposition, this idea that we had ve day, we are in

henry, what did you think when you picked up the daily mail? well, they have really gone it.ink there is fury in the country and this is certainly what tory mps have been saying that they have been getting e—mails and text from their own constituents who are the type of peel —— people that read the mail and they are furious and they think there has been an exemption made for someone very senior. there has been an exemption made for someone very senior. at the same time, ithink someone very senior. at the same time, i think the daily mail is no longer the loyalist —— the most loyal paper out there to boris johnson and it is a fair weather friend and it did not back him in the tory leadership campaign last year. and i think its editor will enjoy the opportunity to go after him. but they may have the country on their side on this. anna sense perhaps the enjoyment in coming up with a headline like this, what planet are they on? is this perhaps below the water line just up passing shot from a fair weather friend?” think it is somewhere in between, i think it is somewhere in betwee

henry, you said we were are more obedient country than we thought.obedient panel than i thought. thank you very much. that is it for the papers tonight.

henry: it is improving.in over 25 offices ,lobally, and data is improving led most by china. ultimately, i think it is important for investors to know markets are discounting mechanism. they are looking towards that improvement. you have seen that in terms of some of the earnings revisions serving to turn up, consumption start to improve. that is all good news, and ultimately we are looking for more than 10 million americans to come back to work by the end of the year. the bad news, unfortunately, is that the rate of change will start to slow, and we are probably going to be in a fairly slower growth environment, so there will be some destruction of demand that doesn't return. markets,ight now, the what we think the markets are saying on the credit side, they are discounting about a 9% default rate, and we think it will probably be around eight. has come in a lot since when the market was discounting about a 14% default rate. on equities, what the market seems to be saying is that the multiples should be bac

and every book i've read, i have on the shelf as a triumph. >> henry winkler!ph we should mention. can we take a peek at the emmy? is it somewhere -- >> i have it. >> reporter: so you have it there? in 2018, wring cle winkler won a prime time emmy, his first for his work in "barry." >> i only have 37 seconds.i wro. >> and she has wings. so in the morning, you never know where you're going to find her. but what a thing. i am, for all time, an emmy winner. >> reporter: and maybe, at this particular time, henry winkler is a comfort, a reminder that good things can and will endure. you got fonz when you were 27 -- >> yes. >> reporter: and cousineau, the part on "barry," at 72. >> unbelievable. if i did not understand gratitude before that, just that i had a dream that i would not be a flash in the pan. i had a dream that i would just continue, and i did, through the help of some wonderful friends, through tenacity, amazing. >> pauley: we learned more about the coronavirus and possible treatments this past week. we also learned more about what the economic shutdown

the man hunt for henry melendez continues today. oakland police want your help. >> we have been working with the u.s. marshals office and together we are reaching out to you now to help us actively search for henry melendez who is wanted in connection with this fatal hit and run. >> reporter: since the accident, oakland has installed these plastic barriers and re- striped the street to one lane in each direction. high-speed traffic has already destroyed many of the columns. tire marks stretch across the newly painted pedestrian crossing. to make matters even worse, all of this in front of the school. >> when you know somebody, you've been to your house and you know their kids and their family, a loved one at that, it hurts. you still live in shock. >> reporter: one neighbor who knew melendez but didn't want to go on camera told me he may be in los angeles attempting to return to guatemala. police have posted a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of henry melendez. >> if you see something, say this individjustic brin

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with her a few gee school deborah henry has made it possible for $400.00 refugee children to receive an education and she will continue to fight for refugee rights in malaysia . by the end of this century the un estimates there will be just under 11000000000 people living on our planets in order to accommodate the mole an additional 2000000000 new homes will need to be built by 20 $100.00 and nightmare for the environment has most buildings a main from concrete which is made from cement by the middle of the century the demand for cement is set to rise by 25 percent a year cement production uses a lot of energy and creates huge amounts of climate damaging c o 2 so we need building materials which and don't contain cement and which are affordable. to men with one vision. we want to transform the construction industry with cement. 3 concrete with support from businesses they're constructing a display house it's their 1st attempt to use the material in their impishness project a significant step toward their goal it's kind of an amazing feeling we didn't need but. this week it's good to

debra henry began working as a fashion model when she was 15 she became one of the most famous user. queens of malaysia but then she had the idea to put her fame to good use to fight for refugees rights. with this moment i hosted a documentary that i visited these refugees out means living 20 minutes from a pitiful twin towers and i couldn't believe that they were here in malaysia in my home and they weren't going to school and i think that was a big turning point for a kid in this well today without an education or setting them up to fail. after fleeing me in march of 2 city struggled for 6 years to survive in malaysia. 6 years in which he had no legal work promise and was forced to do odd jobs to feed himself and his family. 6 years in which they received no medical care. i mean we miss our homeland very much we ask the international community to find justice for us we want to go home if we can we can bear living as refugees in a foreign country we hope that the international community will help end the conflict so that my country can be at peace and we can return to our homeland g

oakland police worked with the us marshals to track down and arrest henry melendez after getting reports he was in the los angeles area. >>> santa cruz county is honoring the memory of a man killed by a shark. ben kelly was surfing when he was attacked on may ninth. he made surf boards and was well-known in the surfing community for his craftsmanship. supervisors designated today as ben kelly day. >>> all right as we begun this new thursday, steve paulson is here to talk about the weather. you have a lot to talk about. >> it's quieter than the last few days but there is always something going on with the weather. it's a warm day, then warmer into the middle of next week. just a bit of fog on the san mateo coast. it's nice. seasonal temperatures. there is some coastal fog but less than we saw yesterday. the screaming messages saying that it will be warmer this weekend. a dip friday then back up we go on the weekend. we continue to go into the lower to mid 90s by the time we get to the middle of next week. coolest temperatures to the north. 45 degrees in kentwood. bodega bay, 51, 30 in sou

she described him in man is eerily reminiscent of the worst characters in the court of king henry viii but told him there is still hope and he gets in the presidential carriage and shows up on the upper east side so we know as early as 1881 that you control the president and the president might show up at your house. this meeting has profound impact on him, not the sole reason, why a man who embodied the spoil system is there was a modern-day civil service but are there was a mediocre man who didn't like working. 's aides used to walk around with a basket of important looking documents because you literally didn't work and they were embarrassed to tell people he didn't work. they create a faÇade of important stuff going on so he didn't push for the civil rights agenda we would have gone with garfield. the one who is the most unexpected and biggest success is harry truman. the reason i say this is in 1944 all the democratic party bosses knew that fdr was a dying man. look no further than effective couldn't fathom the idea of henry wallace becoming vice president ascending to the preside

reopening his business, jay henry, opener of jay -- owner of jay henry's barbershop in orange county.our plan to reopen. what are your thoughts, when are you going to do it, and how are you going to make it safe? >> thank you, first of all, for having me, and i'd like to thank mayor demings for having me on the task force as well. i think we're getting ready to go into the phase, hopefully we get a chance to open as soon as the governor give us the green light. we have a few things in place for safety precautions; wearing asthmassings, wearing gloves, using hand sanitizer, also scheduling customers to come in by appointment. we're trying to keep the capacity down to proceed with caution, that's one of our main priorities with the recovery task force. melissa: i know that you're on this task force talking to other businesses as well. what's the biggest hurdle right now when people reopen? what's their biggest concern or what stands in the way? is it getting people to come back to work, is it knowing what maybe the standards are that you need to follow? what are the biggest concerns? >>

. >> sunday night on q&a, a historian discusses his book about the summer road trips taken by henry ford and thomas edison. >> the thinking was to take a car trip to the everglades. exotic plants and animal life and it will be an adventure. it was pointed out that there aren't early any roads there and it is dangerous and there are alligators and worse and people could die. they knew better. the trip lasted a day and a half. there was a monsoon, there were snakes, alligators. but they liked the idea. it came about they would take a

reporting live, henry lee, ktvu, fox 2 news. >> henry thank you. >>> >> complete has been filed over the firing of the former police chief. you remember she was dismissed last february. at that time, she said that she thought she had been fired in part because she refused to grant police commissioner janelle harris special favors. ktvu obtained documents to look into claims that harris demand of the oakland police department reimburse her for towing fees. the city has until june 20th to respond to the complaint that was filed this morning. >>> >> we are seeing a big-time bay area warm-up today. the warm weather bringing people out of san francisco's dolores park. most people we saw today were practicing social distancing or wearing face coverings. for more now on this warm-up, let's check in with meteorologist mark, mark you are hanging out outside on this beautiful may day. >> trying to get a little bit about time today of course. by myself, here in san francisco, lots of sunshine, temperatures have been trending up with fog free conditions. with the change in the wind direction. it

henry, you said we were are more obedient country than we thought.ou are a more obedient panel than i thought. thank you very much. that is it for the papers tonight. hello and welcome to the film review with me, mark kermode, rounding up the best movies now available for viewing in the home. now, cinemas may be closed, but movies can still transport us around the world. take the county, an arresting icelandic drama set in a remote farming community. recently widowed inga declares war on the local cooperative, which she believes has become a mafia—like monopoly, controlling the industry, driving up prices and exploiting the very community it was set up to protect. faced with the threat of bankruptcy and ever more suspicious of the forces which may have driven her husband to an early grave, inga finds her own voice, encouraging herfellow farmers to take back control of their lives through facebook blogs and milk spray protests, throwing shovel loads of manure at authority, both metaphorically and literally. in his 2015 film rams, writer—director grimu

and you can see here, charlotte depew's lawsuit in 1830, against henry clay. henry clay, the secretary of state at the time, outgoing secretary of state, he had been speaker of the house, he was one of the most well-known politicians in american history, he was a perennial candidate possibility for the presidency, depew sued henry clay. hundreds of lawsuits in washington, d.c. there were hundreds in st. louis, missouri. there were lawsuits in new orleans. there were lawsuits in baltimore. there were lawsuits in various parts of maryland and virginia. so there were thousands of these lawsuits. and some of the same concepts that we see in dred scott, we're going to talk about in just a minute, come up in some of the earlier cases. notably, one case you all have looked into, mine am week,, mcqueen, her lawsuit against john helpburn, what were some of the essential elements of that queen. have hepburn case in 1813. anybody? >> her grandmother or great grandmother was free, she was then free, that they overruled most of the testimonies that she presented as hearsay

henry ford was known to be anti-semitic. he praised adolph hitler back in the 1930s.does this add or not to our understanding of president trump? >> well, it's either he's stupid, unaware of henry ford anis talking in code language about blood lines which smack of eugenics and racial superiority doctrines, which henry ford was a major. he was a practicing and convincing antisemite who accepted the cross of the german eying ail ward from the nazis in 1938. i mean, so it wasn't just a casual thing. so it shows the insensitivity or it's some sort of a subtle whistle to white racists and white supremacists that he admires them. >> woodruff: david, do you think it hurts the president? >> i'm going with ignorance on this one. first, he dog whistles, trump is not subtle, so i don't know why he would start being subtle now. he doesn't read books. so the henry ford, what he did in the '20s and '30s would require reading a history book. it could be that he knew all this but i don't think you see it watching cable news ten hours a day. i'll give him the benefit that he just didn

one arch enemy, henry of virginia, nearly 40 years his junior, called him the hissing serpent, which despite its nastiness, did in fact capture his cat and mouse approach, so it's more and mouse than a snake. one of john quincy adams was greatest performances came when he introduced the petition from a group of slaves, which led the southern colleagues to explode with calls to expel him. waiting patiently until the fuming dissipated and they drafted language to officially venture him. he revealed that the petition was not a call to end slavery, but to preserve it. it was a hoax, and the joke was on his colleagues. but then adams took it further. he made them even angrier when he proceeded to the legitimate defense of the right of slaves to petition congress. he said of sending the southern member of the house was no reason to silence the representative or refused to hear the petition. he reminded his colleagues that the south consisted of more than bastards. how could one favored class, and that is his word, the master class, supersede the rights of everyone else? the gag rule, gaggi

good afternoon, i'm ed henry. reporter: a lot of breaking news we are all taking this afternoon. we have live team coverage for you. we begin with aishah hasnie who is reporting live from times square in new york city. >> so we are standing in the middle of times square. we are noticing a police presence in different parts and corners of the square. that's in anticipation of a possible protest that could possibly take place here tonight. we are just waiting to see if that happens or not. that's this time of the day where you have that question of what might happen if a protest takes place because we have seen violence in the city every single night for the past few nights. let's take a look at aftermath of last night's protest. we saw several nypd vans smashed up in new york city. glass doors and windows shattered at several stores. ' owners already hit by the pandemic now victims of looting. nypd arrested 335 people last night. 33 officers were injured. but there is video showing nypd vehicles pushing through the crowd. while the mayor said he wishes officers had not done that,

henry lee tells us how folks dealt with the temperatures as they went up today. >> reporter: the hot weather in the bay area had people looking for an escape. it's nice to be out even though officials prefer that you stay in because of the coronavirus shelter in place and healthy air. the heat and little wind made it a spare day on memorial day. tuesday will be another spare the air day. >> the reason we're calling it the spare to air is because spare-the-air is because it's going the affect the ozone. >> reporter: but that might be a tall order. at the crown beach in in alameda there was distance. >> just enjoying the weather. it's beautiful out here. it's a little built warm, yeah. but it beats cold weather or rain or snow. >> sometimes the kids are a little blue and sometimes mommy and daddy are a little blue. >> we're encouraging people to visit the parks and exercise but not socialize. >> reporter: officers are warning people who are not follow guidelines. >> we're making sure that we're educating. >> reporter: officials say it's important to stay indoors even though that might

henri protesters clashing with d.c. police just outside the white house gates. mark meredith is there with the details. you see this video from last night. as the dust settles today and they get ready for another long night. i see 60 secret service uniformed officers and special agents had injuries last night. what are you hearing now at this hour? reporter: we have the secret service injuries. but there is a lot of focus on what president trump has to say about this. we have not seen the president make on-camera statements today. he has been tweeting quite a bit. one tweet in particular is getting a lot of the attention saying the united states of america will be designating antifa as a terrorist organization. the aclu is tweeting back. tear i'm is a political label misused or abused. there is know legal authority for designating a domestic group. but shortly after with the president's tweeted, we heard from attorney general bill barr. he says they are working to identify criminal organizers and instigators. the attorney general says quite the violence instigat

later on, private henry johnson, also in the division, would be awarded the medal of honor by president obama. it was for another engagement earlier in the american attack. we're standing in front of the grave of frank luke junior, a second lieutenant in the air service, which played a significant role in the meuse-argonne area. but frank luke had a unique job, so to speak. he was a balloon buster. can you tell us about the balloons in the war and why the americans and the french wanted to shoot them down? >> yes, in fact balloons were used for observation. as you can imagine. balloons were flying everywhere over the battlefield, sometime going close into the rear line, and throwing bombs also on the rear camps and everything. balloons were used as a weapon and observation, so shooting balloons was something very important. the morning off on of the 27th on a mission that was not approved. his commanding officer didn't know where he was. at the end of the day, he didn't come back. later on, it was found he had been shot down. do you know where he had been shot down? villageit was a smal

that was read by my countrymen, colonel richard henry lee.ni remember, it was june 7 philadelphia. it caused immediate consternation, particularly among the smaller colonies of rhode island and delaware. how would they be expected to follow the resolution of virginia? we considered ourselves the largest, most populated, wealthiest. president john hancock created the entire continental congress as a committee to gather amongst in individual caucuses to decide how we should proceed. do we really want independency? and then, he appointed another committee of five men to draft our declaration of american independency. mind you, this was not a fee complee.-- fait we did not know that the congress would vote for independency, but we wanted to be prepared. mr. john adams was from massachusetts. mr. roger sherman, connecticut. robert livingston from new york. dr. franco, pennsylvania. one on thenly committee south of the line of mason-dixon. franklin would. be our author but he dared not -- cared not to take on the responsibility. he looked at me, an

well, obviously he had never heard of patrick henry, give me freedom or give me death. well, my parents would give me freedom or give me death. they were not ever apologetic, they fought to the bitter end and i grew up seeing all of that and it certainly had an impact on who i became in the long run, but they were two -- now we -- 60 years later 50, years later, america is a different place. america is not very leaptly racist. racism no longer stop this dreams and hopes of any black person in american life. you can do anything you want. you can be the president, you can be a ceo, you can be a diswasher, you can be anything you choose to be in america today. does that mean that every white person will love you? i don't know and don't care. what is important is that you have that opportunity. the opportunity is what it's all about. so, the civil rights movement today is very different than back then. they're not fighting against a real racism, a real enemy that is going to stop their live wiz bigotry. they're fighting now for the rewards, for all of -- for their manipulat

henry?> jill, the locals are welcoming their federal partners but there is still a little frustration that it is taking the fence to jump in on cases that they normally handle. >> for months now police have been completing about the states zero bail schedule set up to reduce coronavirus infections in jail. that has led to such x being arrested over and over again because they don't have to pay any bail. we continue to monitor zero bail, it is not working out so well for us it really isn't. but now the federal government has stepped in filing charges against these two men who were referred by local law enforcement as examples of zero bail fail >> offenders are being booked and released often on on the same day. wreck use attorney at services had a warning to repeat offenders, in federal court, bail is not guaranteed, any conviction could lead to longer time behind bars. >> federal charges can be among the most impactful, we try to direct our subtle resources to the cases and the charges were

that was read by my countrymen, colonel richard henry lee. if i remember, it was the 7th of june they had to continental concerts -- they had the continental congress in philadelphia. it caused immediate consternation, particularly among the smaller colonies of rhode island, let alone delaware. how would they be expected to follow the resolution of virginia? we considered ourselves the largest, the most populated, the wealthiest. so president john hancock created the entire continental congress as a committee of the whole, to gather amongst ourselves in individual caucuses to decide how we should proceed. do we really want independency? and then, he appointed another committee of five men to draft our declaration of american independency. now mind you, this was not a fait accompli. we did not know that the congress would vote for independency, but we wanted to be prepared. now, of the five men appointed to the committee, we will reflect for a moment, mr. john adams was from massachusetts. mr. roger sherman, connecticut. robert r. livingston f

here is more on that story from skyler henry. >> reporter: dr. fauci said that estates open prematurely that they run the risk of seeing more deaths in their respective states. he is recommending a set of guidelines to get america back to work safely. including isolation, identification , and contact tracing. meanwhile lawmakers are debating another stimulus package. they say theme fauci waagains intras he and other top health officials appeared remotely in front of the senate. >> there is a risk that you will trigger an outbreak that you will not be able to control. that would set you back. >> reporter: officials say they are working to help states get the capabilities for more testing and contact tracing. the cdc director said that more guidelines will be published soon. >> as we work through the guidances a number go for interagency review. >> reporter: dr. fauci said a vaccine could be ready by late fall early winter. the fda commissioner could not guarantee a vaccine would be available at no charge for all citizens. put the payment of vaccin

you henry. >>> protest continued in minnesota today. the governor called out the national guard. emotions were running high in st. paul, mayor frei has asked people to stay home. the federal investigation into the death of george floyd. they said that they will find out exactly what happened. here's the latest on the investigation >> reporter: the justice department said they will make the federal investigation type top priority. wednesday demonstrations turned into riots as people ransacked stores and burned buildings. the mayor was requesting assistance >> we must believe that we can be better than we have been. we must restore the pieces so that we can do this hard work together. >> reporter: protesters call for the four officers involved to be charged with murder. they were fired after it showed officer derek chauvin with his knee on the suspects and neck , he left it there even though floyd said he could not breathe. meanwhile the university minnesota is distancing themselves from the police department. announcing that they will no

of the civilians had probably died of disease like the influenza epidemic. >> this is a grave for henry gibson. if you look, he was part of the ymca. the ymca helped a lot in the war. they built barracks for the american soldiers. they also provided doughnuts, any kind of food supply. anything they could. many civilian organizations such as ymca, they were not the only one, they helped a lot, trying to make life easier and better for the american soldiers who are fighting so far from home. >> here we have the grave of andy everly, part of an evacuation hospital. they were important because this is where troops were evacuated after being wounded in battle. she actually died during the meuse-argonne, but she would have died most likely from the influenza epidemic, which was raging into the whole area of the western front. the second wave of the influenza epidemic had reached france and wreaked havoc on american troops and would have spread to both civilians and all combatants, including the french and the germans. >> among the unknown soldiers buried in the meuse-argonne, three are specia

what was your reaction when you heard or saw this mayor henry? >> we expected large crowds, my reaction was concerning. great concerned in large part because they were not practicing social distancing or wearing masks. that's my first concern and our beach, we are used to have large, large crowds. the biggest issue was affected. they were not practicing social distancing and they did not necessarily respond in a lot of ways that we wanted them to as it relates to the normal expectations of visitors. >> could police have done something to stop this before it developed into a dangerous situation? >> no. our police work very hard and they help to essentially cancel the event because it was not sanctioned. i felt that our police did an excellent job responding. when you are talking about you got 300 to 500 people per law enforcement officer, it is a tough order. by and large, well-maintained and the police did a good job. >> how do you prevent things like this in the future? >> education. you continue to educate folks in your community and we have to

he had to push against henry clay, who wanted to be the power behind the throne. harrison didn't want that to happen. it turned out to be the defining moment, in a sense, of his short presidency. a lot of presidents end up becoming unpopular or rank low precisely because they will stake out of position, not listen to other people, not react to the context or events at the time, and end up losing the presidency and the historical judgment of the presidency. brian: do you think he is right about william howard taft being among the list of the 12? that were the minor presidents? jeffrey: sure, as a presidential leader, and the c-span survey is exactly right. for presidential leadership, taft is low, but on administrative skills he is incredibly high. but the power of michael's book which i learned so much from -- [laughter] now, if you want a book about constitutional legacy of the presidents, read michael's book. he is the only one who has written about their constitutional visions. as michael said, taft is among the 12, presidents who are not great as presidential