there's the henrietta marie. africa, right, and how the work was done at that particularly site lives in the museum of african history and culture that shares this larger story about the trans-atlantic slave trade with actual materials from that particularly wreck that make it that much more tangible to the public. there's been a rise in the sort of quest for finding vessels pertaining to the trans-atlantic trade slave. and at the very same time there are also governments at work state to state, systematically making sure that this history isn't taught in our k through 12s. >> how do those things even co-exist. >> you know, but the materiality of that ship can't be denied. the existence of people, enslaved africans, who lived in those bows, who had their entire existence shifted. you can't deny it. so i feel like the role of archaeologist is to actually show the material. that's what this work is about. >> preservation is critical. without having those remnants to tell the story, it becomes virtually impossible t

i think about henrietta lacks and the story became personally involved with and in some ways mary roach. it's generally not a family connection but she nonetheless puts herself in the story and you hear about how scientists actually do their work. when you are thinking about writing this did you think now it just looks like a new way to do this book. what is it even going to be and how my going to tell the story? >> is so interesting you mention those two books in particular because i studied those books very carefully. initially i was not planning to include any memoir. i thought it would be on the -- site of the point where i would write more intimately about the patients that i met so i give full credit to my amazing editor who said what about the story for anti-and in that process of writing a realized oh my gosh that intimate voice is what needs to did that be the backbone here what i'm talking about like complicated mother-daughter relationship with her or talking to a biologist and south america because you are right that's what i was seeing in this book and i studied mary roach'

and it tells the extraordinary story henrietta, with this finalists for her book, grow in black-and-white, the story of maryams and the abolition group, which looks at how photographed of this child galvanized the way sympathy. the pursuit of freedom and equality in the twilight of slavery and that includes aftermath of the perspective and experiences. david and his book for raising the social and cultural meaning of surrender. congratulations to all of the 2020 finalists, i am now going to turn things back over to the president of the institute. >> we present the lincoln prize and it's now my pleasure to introduce john who is a tremendously successful businessman and philanthropist that heads up more boards and good causes and you y can imagie including a various times the national parknd foundation, the battlefield trust in the university virginia board of visitors and for 15 years the texas historical commission. and that includes chair of the advisory council where he served for nine years. he is a generous supporter that is in partnership with laura bush, creating a national history teacher of the year

like a really think about rebecca, henrietta lacks, stories she became personally involved with and also a story about people. some ways mary roach because she -- generally not a family connection but she nonetheless is putting yourself in the story and you get to read about like how scientists actually do the work. i wonder like when you're thinking about writing this did you sort of like now i just looks like a beautifully done thing, but was there a time when you like what is this even going to be? how i'm going to work out how to tell the story? >> it's interesting you mention those to make books because i studied those books very carefully. because initially i was not plan to include any memoir. i thought it would maybe be on the rebecca scored side of the point where i would write more intimately about the patients that i met. so i give full credit to my amazing editor who is like what about number, what about the story with your anti-what she was the one who really cheese that out and then in the process of writing that i realize my gosh, that voice, that into that voice is what needs to be the backbone here, what i'

and so i really think about henrietta lacks, the stories she tends to get personally involved with and it's also a story about people . and in some ways mary because she talked about herself, it's not a family connection but she's herself in the story and gets to read about how scientists actually do their work so i wonder when you were thinking about writing this, did you like now it's a beautifully done thing but was there a time when you are like what is this even going to be. how am i going to work out how to tell the story. >> it's interesting that you mention those two books in particular because i studied those books very carefully because initially i actually was not trying to include any memoir.i thought it would maybe be on the rebecca's side of the point where i would write more intimately about the patients that i met . so like i give schools credit to my amazing house editor amy cochran whose what about memoir, what about the story with your auntie and she was the one who tease that out and also really in the process of writing that i realized my that boy, that intimate voice is what needs to be the backbone here i'm talking a

henrietta woods and enslaved woman who fought for justice and reparations. benefit finalist was jesse, for her book, a grown buck might pump a story of mary mildred williams andgraphs of enslaved a seven -year-old child who passes white galvanized white sympathies for the abolitionist cause. essex finalist is joseph, for his book, illusions of emancipation in the space and freedom and equality in the twilight of slavery. which examines emancipation and its aftermath through the perspective and experiences of african americans. in the seventh finalist in the 2020 prize was david, for his book raising the white flag, help surrender define the american civil war which impacts the social, political and cultural meanings of surrender. and congratulations to all of the 2020 finalist and now i'm going to turn things back over to the present of the gilder lehrman institute of american history pretty. >> present the 2020-foot lincoln prize is now my pleasure to introduce my fellow trustee john. he's a tremendously successful businessman civic leader and philanthropist and heads-up more gorgeous and and good thoughts and the causes thann you can imagine among them are

henrietta woods, and enslaved woman who fought for justice and reparations. the fifth finalist was jesse owens for her book girl in a black-and-white of the story of mary and mildredd the abolition movement, which looks at how photographs of an enslaved 7-year-old child who passed as white galvanized sympathy for the abolitionist cause. the sixth finalist was joseph for his book illusions of emancipation, the pursuit of freedom and equality and the twilight of slavery, which examines emancipation and its aftermath through the perspective and experiences of african-americans. the seventh finalist is the 2020 lincoln prize with david for his book raising the white flag how they defined the civil war which etunpacks the social, political and cultural meanings of surrender during the civil war. congratulations to all of the 2020 finalists and i am now going to turn things back over to the president of the gilder lehrman institute. >> presenting the 2020 lincoln prize, it is my pleasure to introduce the fellow trustee. john is a tremendously successful businessman, civic leader and philanthropist who headss up more boards and causes then you could imagine. among them a