that's a phrase from henry adams, by the way. and they think they're the, you know, as adam says in virginia, all geese are swans. and they think they're going to dominate. and all of a sudden, right away, this new england, new york merchant class is emerging to displace them. and what's going on? what is a conspiracy theory anyway? a conspiracy theory is a simplistic, semispiritualistic explanation for events that you otherwise don't understand. what's happening to virginians? they're all going to bankruptcy. both madison and jefferson went bankrupt. monroe does, too. the only one would doesn't is washington among the majors. slavery is not working. if you look at george washington's plantation towards the end of his life, he has 319 slaves. at any given time less than 100 of them are working. >> and also tobacco isn't working. >> tobacco destroyed the soil. he's already switched from tobacco, has washington by this time. but the tobacco economy and the tide water is like it's a one way ticket to bankruptcy. and so they all -- a