. >> coming up, republicans henry barber and wisconsin congressman sean duffy. >> we have two guests tonight, the republican strategist and republican national committee member, henry barber, also joined by republican congressman sean duffy from wisconsin, that man on the podium last night with his wife rachel speaking. you did a nice job. >> thank you. >> did you ever contemplate starting four score and seven years ago. >> i thought i might get caught with base technology. someone might catch me if i pulled the language out of someone else's text. listen, we had fun last night, my wife and i did. we broke the speech and had fun. >> were you nervous and how much guidance did you get from the trump campaign? >> the trump campaign was good and they gave us some parameters. it was a security safety night but said take it where you want to go. they gave us approval and didn't have any critiques or changes for us. they let us do what we wanted to put together and we had fun. >> people basically now in our business, you feel what happened last night is the first day was wrecked and there w

henry barber of mississippi. i do oppose this amendment and while it might not, quote, punish states, if you give other states a boe nut delegate, obviously states that have open primaries will be punished. so i would disagree with that comment. and certainly in mississippi and i think a lot of other states, certainly in the south, open primaries have been a good way for the party to grow over the last few decades. so i think that i'm in strong opposition to this and i appreciate your time. >> thank you, mr. barber. is there someone else who would like to be recognized in support? anyone else who would like to be recognized in support? mr. blackwell. >> thank you, madam chairman. if you've read through the rules, and i'm confident that virtually every one of us in this room has read through the rules as part of our preparation, you know that the general philosophy in the rules is to encourage participation by republicans and not let nonrepublicans come in and choose our candidates. this is common. this proposed c

henry barber from mississippi. i do oppose this amendment that would change this to 20 states. a couple of points. one, there is 168 members of the rnc. so to get 20 people to do something is a very low thresho threshold. one point the gentleman from virginia mentioned i have talked about conservatives and then the chairman as if he is not a conservative. and i want to clarify that. we know our chairman and all members of the rnc are conservatives. we don't agree on every particular issue. what we do agree on is we want to win elections and with conservatives. thank you. >> thank you. is there anyone else who wishes to speak regarding the amendment to the amendment? yes, sir. >> vincent devito. massachusetts. i'm rising against the amendment to the amendment and i am rising also against to the amendment. the reason is seems to me that regardless of everything that was said there is also a procedural element afoot here which is as this has been discussed in standing committee thoughtfully discussed, reasoned and voted upon for a bunch of thoughts that we do not need to repeat to

henry barber from mississippi. i appreciate this amendment, however i believe that the idea of -- that the volunteer vice chairman of the regions really -- to say that they would be serving as a chief executive officer, i don't think it's accurate as far as what they actually do in normal rnc activities. and i think being from the southern region, we have the southern regional political conference every few years, and normally, that is certainly an activity in our region, but never have we had our vice chair be the head of it. because that is normally led by state party chairman and the state party where that might be if it's in tennessee or south carolina or wherever. while i think the intent of this is good, i believe it -- in the details fails what is the practical reality. >> we've had members speak in opposition. is there an additional member who would like to speak in favor? >> i rise in favor of this amendment. as a past member of the republican national committee, i understand from the western region, the i