uh, alongside me remain henry bolton joe phillips . so bolton and joe phillips. else at home. let's talk churches , shall we? because over churches, shall we? because over 2000 church goers have signed a petition to stop new silent disco shows taking place in historical churches up and down the country . see, now, i've got the country. see, now, i've got to say , the church attendance is to say, the church attendance is in decline. one of my viewers has written in to dispute that, and i'll come to that in a second. but what do you think to this notion that churches should be housing now, like alcohol ? i be housing now, like alcohol? i have to say you can get alcohol at places. alcohol fuelled at these places. alcohol fuelled silent right of silent discos, the right time of the week. >> you'd to get, uh, get >> you'd be able to get, uh, get alcohol anywhere in church. alcohol anywhere in the church. >> but but not under not >> indeed. but but not under not under this context. >> no, not in this context, no. um churches , a number of um look, churches, a number of

before we get henry bolton. before we get started, though, let's get your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> good afternoon. it's exactly 3:01. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. >> our top story this hour. >> our top story this hour. >> sir keir starmer has called for a permanent ceasefire in gaza. >> during a speech at the scottish labour conference >> it's a change to his previous stance of a pause in the fighting , saying instead the war fighting, saying instead the war must stop now. but he says the ceasefire can't be one sided. he's calling on the hamas terror group to release all its remaining hostages. >> he also said that a two state solution must be back on the table , an end to the fighting . table, an end to the fighting. >> not just now, not just for a pause, but permanently. >> a ceasefire for that lasts. >> a ceasefire for that lasts. >> conference . yes, that is what >> conference. yes, that is what must happen now. the fighting must happen now. the fighting must stop now . must stop

details of this now with the broadcaster and author amy nicole turner and the former leader of ukip, henry boltonst night, and it does seem that . only 500 and it does seem that. only 500 people removed in the first year of the rwanda scheme is the best case. well i sort of got a scoop on nigel because i actually was talking about it. >> i think, one of the >> i think, on one of the programs here, um, about a month ago, i said my understanding was that the case scenario for that the best case scenario for the office going the home office is 500 going to a rwanda a year now, now that if you say around about 40,000 people come across the channel, that's 1 the deterrence that's 1 in 80. the deterrence value is utterly negligible . and value is utterly negligible. and so, you know, this is just another, uh , indicator, a piece another, uh, indicator, a piece of evidence that the government knows full well that rwanda is not going to deliver in terms of what the prime minister has said it will stop the boats. it won't work. there are all sorts of other reasons why that that minuscule deterrent effect

uh what my panel make this i'm joined by former leader of ukip, henry bolton.a media, aaron bastani. thank joining thank you very much for joining me gentlemen. me this afternoon, gentlemen. happy afternoon you. happy sunday afternoon to you. you too. so glad to you. now, this is a huge debate to be had. a lot of things move very fast yesterday i have to yesterday we had, i have to admit, the animated i've admit, the most animated i've seen. sadiq khan felt really passionately about what he was saying. quite clearly. um, and, and then almost immediately after, in the afternoon , we had after, in the afternoon, we had lee anderson being suspended. um, i'm going to come to you first on this one. what do you make of developments over the past few days? >> well, i generally don't like mps losing the whip because i think ultimately they're representatives for 70,000 odd people. representatives for 70,000 odd peo um, i don't representatives for 70,000 odd peoum, i don't like >> um, and i don't like centralised power with party leaders. >> however, he said was >> howe

before we get henry bolton.

, and we've got activist bolton, and we've got activist femi nylander. henrying britain more attractive with should we not just be with this? should we not just be blocking from working to blocking them from working to frankly them from coming here? >> yes, i think we should. patrick, look, there's a number of things here. first of all, you know, people will say, well, it's costing us to money accommodate people. we're accommodate these people. we're giving them. we're paying them benefits. so on. um, but benefits. and so on. um, but there's various costs involved in them staying in. >> oh, i think we might have lost henry there. all right, femi, i'll throw it over to you, femi, i'll throw it over to you, femi, and look for me. these people are not going to end up being a net benefit matter being a net benefit no matter what frankly so we are what we do. frankly so we are going end having house going to end up having to house them whatever. and them somewhere or whatever. and we've recession in we've had the recession in numbers today. they numbers out today.

but could we see the duke becoming a working royal again, joining me now is former ukip leader henry boltonbour mp stephen pound. henry i see you've come with your child's tie. today was that was that a coincidence? well, it was total coincidence? well, it was total coincidence in fact, i didn't know that we were going to discuss particularly. i discuss this particularly. i mean, should got on mean, we should have got you on the really? as the by elections. really? but as you're the charles tie, you're wearing the charles tie, what do you reckon these what do you reckon about these reports that harry what do you reckon about these rep0|come that harry what do you reckon about these rep0|come into that harry what do you reckon about these rep0|come into the at harry what do you reckon about these rep0|come into the royalry may come back into the royal fold royal, albeit temporarily? >> i think there's a very, very long to travel long journey for him to travel before he would be able to become working member of the become a working member of the royal family again. i mean , you royal family a

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