on the other hand, i mentioned henry david thoreau who was the pivotal in my thinking. he basically had the idea the business of living, but he had the idea, he went out and at one time did an essay on civil disobedience. he went on to a hill and he said, looked around and saw the actual beauty that surrounded him and he said here there is no state. i want to look inside myself and say, here there is no state. i try to do that increasingly every day by making sure everything from alternate currency, interacting with my neighbor in terms of alternate methods of exchange, privatizing my life, taking my life back from the state and privatizing it to the extent possible. do not interact with the state, make sure that you go into businesses that are privatizing government services. do not interact with the state. we are going through an unprecedented period of gaining control of our lives. all you have to say is now and i'm not saying that you should martyr yourself, martyr your family. i'm not saying anything like that or go that would be recklessness. what i'm saying is, t

i am an anarchist in a henry david thoreau sense of the word. i really keep invoking him in this interview. he said the government that governs best is the one that governs least. and the least government you can have is no government. so i have that kind m called by. most libertarians i know if they were in power and they were able to establish the minimal government that they want to put into power, i would hang up my anarchist credentials, i'd go in my backyard and grow tomatoes for the rest of my life. and i wouldn't have to go to the grocery store and buy the tomatoes that the state is making me too busy to grow. so i don't have an argument with most libertarians. i'd love to see their government. if they had their government, they wouldn't see me again. >> host: wendy mcelroy is the author of "the art of being fair," and in the back of this book this is an invitation. what is this? >> guest: the invitationing is to the laissez-faire book club. it's something i've very excited about. if you go to the cite,

the 19th century author henry david thoreau wrote "when in some obscure country town the farmers comer to a special town meeting to express their opinion on some subject which is vexing the land, that, i think, is the true congress and the most respectable one that is ever assembled in the united states." it's been a while since hempstead, new york, was a country town, but the voters and the candidates express their opinions here tonight and this special town meeting is now adjourned. next monday in boca raton the final debate all on foreign policy there will be more campaign 2012 coverage at cbsnews.com and don't miss it first thing tomorrow on cbs "this morning" with charlie rose, norah o'donnell and gayle king. i'm scott pelley, cbs news, good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

in america george mcgovern stood in the tradition of henry david thoreau of william jennings bryan, andpeople sought to break down the barriers of a closed political system his voice was there. when sinister forces corrupted the political system and haunted the corridors of power in washington, he was there to warn us. voices of conscience make us uncomfortable. our political system forces them to the margin. those made uncomfortable by george mcgovern's voice of conscience dismissed him as a liberal in an age which ridicules liberalism. but he was larger than any political label particularly a demonized one. liberals did not get elected and reelected in conservative midwestern states. liberals did not throughout their life take on unpopular causes particularly in recent years. and most of all liberals did not fly dangerous bomber missions in defense of our nation. this made his many critics who avoided military service especially uncomfortable. somewhere in some small town in this great land is a young man or a young woman who will learn of george mcgovern and his voice. someday, that