>> caputo had heard about this guy, henry greenberg, from a business partner of his who was ruian. and that business partner had been approached by greenberg and told that he wanted to get in touch with the trump campaign. at that time, remember, caputo was working for the trump campaign as a communications official. he needed someone to vet the information, and he thought immediately of roger stone for two reasons. one, there was no official opposition research operation within the trump campaign. remember, it was a pretty unconventional campaign. and secondly, because roger stone is known as someone who works on the dark side of the political world and caputo thought that he would be the perfect person to check this guy out. >> now, the meeting takes place, according to your reporting, with stone and this person by the name of henry greenberg. and after the meeting, there was a text messaging conversation between stone and caputo, and you write and include in your article, that caputo says to stone, how crazy is the russian? and stone then says, wants big money for info, waste of

according to stone's account to the "washington post," he met with a man who called himself henry greenberg who offered damaginging information about hillary clinton. however, he didn't reveal the information he claimed to possess. caputo said he spoke with greenberg by phone and arranged a meeting for stone. text messages show that after the meeting caputo asked stone, how crazy is the russian? stone said, he wants big money for the information. waste of time. caputo replied, the russian way. anything at all interesting? and stone said, no. neither disclosed that testimony. he said he had no contact with russians. >> i spent my time in front of the committee detailing the fact i had no contact with russians. i never heard of anyone in the trump campaign talking with russians. but i never was asked questions about my time in russia that i never seen spoke to anybody in russia. i never heard the word russia and we did not use russian dressing. >> they both said they forgot about the meetings until the text messages. they also say they were set up. greenberg said he worked as an informant to

now both men are claiming they believe henry greenberg was an fbi informant who was sent to essentially entrap them in order to help someone at the department of justice, apparently, infiltrate the trump campaign. rudy giuliani, the president's attorney, weighed in on this this morning on cnn, saying that he didn't totally agree with the idea that henry greenberg was an fbi informant and he called him a strange person. listen to this. >> the most extraordinary thing is on some document he described himself as an informant. every informant i ever had tried to keep that secret. you don't say, oh, i'm an informant, i can come to the united states. it sounds like a very strange guy. was he an fbi informant or not? well, we know from the probe by the inspector general that the fbi at the highest levels here were doing very, very unorthodox things, if not out and out illegal and unethical. so would they be using a guy like this? i doubt it, because you don't just say you're an informant. >> so giuliani disagreeing with stone and caputo there, but he did agree with stone on the idea that presi

and you also reached out to this russian national, henry greenberg, right? >> yes. >> what did he say? >> he initially denied everything, said that no meeting had taken place and said that we had false information. that then led to a series of text messages that he sent to my colleague, roz helderman, and he in these messages began to confirm all of our reporting and confirmed much of what roger stone was saying about the meeting, but there's one key difference. greenberg who by the way has go bynother name, he is a russian national who has been coming back and forth between the two countries for many years, he says that there was another man, a second man at the meeting, a ukrainian man who worked for the clinton foundation and that he was angry about being fired by the clinton foundation and that it was the second man who did most of the talking and had the dirt. roger stone says there was no second man. >> so who to believe? >> well, we spoke to the clinton foundation. they tell us they've never had a ukrainian man with that first name working for them, s

believe that it is very easy for them if they can get documents out of the doj to find out if henry greenbergny other names. if he was under another f.b.i. informant visa. >> tucker: they should find out. they should. i don't care if nobody thinks it's a big deal. it was a big deal. michael caputo, appreciate that. appreciate it. tell us what you find out if you would. we'll be back in a moment. hey! we didn't have a homeowners claim last year so allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards. switching to allstate is worth it. you shouldn't be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia's add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort your sleep number setting. and snoring? does your bed do that? don't miss final closeout savings on the queen c2 mattress. now only $599, save $300. it's the l

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you say henry greenberg, but you did know that he was a russian. he spoke with a heavy russian accent. there are text messages that "the washington post" has between you and roger stone where you ask stone, do the russians have anything? and stone says, no, he wanted money. here it is. how crazy was the russ, you ask? he said wants big money for the info. waste of time. you say the russian way. anything at all interesting, and roger stone says no. so you clearly knew he was russian. >> sure, i told the mueller team when they asked me about any contact with russians offering information about hillary clinton. i disclosed this and told them that i thought he was a russian -- i'm sorry, that he thought he was an american citizen of russian descent. you understand my daughter is russian. my business partner is russian. my mother-in-law -- my ex-mother-in-law is russian. i speak with russians every day. when you ask me whether i was talking -- would i have talked to any russians about the campaign, i did not recall any at that time. when the house asked

he writes that when stone met with henry greenberg "mr. that his asking price was $2 million. mr. stone immediately replied that he did not have $2 million and even if he did he would never pay for political information. mr. greenberg laughed and said it was not mr. stone's money that he was seeking but rather donald trump's money. mr. stone told mr. greenberg that donald trump would never buy information either." stone goes on to say that no information was exchanged during this meeting and that he never heard from mr. greenberg again. stone also maintains he never told minute on the campaign including then candidate trump about this meeting. i reached out to the white house to ask them not only about this admission from roger stone and michael caputo but also their assertion that greenberg is an fbi informant, something that lines up with what we've heard previously from president trump about deep state conspiracies aiming to unravel his campaign and his presidency. the white house is yet to respond, fred. >> all right. boris sanchez, th

it turns out that henry greenberg is not his real name, that he is an fbi informant for over 17 yearswas deported from the country in 2000. has a 10-year prison record for violent crime. is associated with russian organized crime. more importantly, is in the country on a visa sponsored by the miami office of the fbi because he is providing "a public benefit." he's an informant. at this very brief meeting, mr. greenberg, not his real name, the fbi informant, first shows up wearing a maga hat and trump t-shirt. shows me photographs on his phone of he and a woman at various trump rallies and lays it on me that he has information damaging hillary clinton and he only wants $2 million for it. i reject his request for $2 million, and he laughs and says it's not your money i want. it is donald trump's money. and there it is giving up the game. this is an attempt to entrap me but to compromise donald trump. greenberg or whatever his real name was, -- >> laura: did he speak like this? [russian accent] does he say i have very good information on hillary clinton? [laughs] >> the real question her

and michael caputo has tried to now frame then tire issue around the idea that henry greenberg, the russianree different aliases, was an informant for the fbi. >> this is his contention. >> and he was according to many former fbi agents i spoke to, immigration lawyers, they say paperwork he 2350i8d is consistent with someone who was providing support to federal law enforcement. but that support allegedly ended in 2013. so there would be a three-year gap there between the time that he stopped working with the fbi and when he approached the trump campaign. so that kind of doesn't really work. >> it's also before, rosalind, if i'm not mistaken, it's before as far as we know the fbi actually even opened the investigation, right? >> well, that's right. our best information at the moment is that the counterintelligence investigation was opened on july 31 as a result of the information from the australians about george pap dap los. of course mr. caputo and mr. stone want to question that and say is it possible that the fbi opened the investigation earlier than they've led us to believe? >> two thi

i was approached by a guy named henry greenberg. think he was of russian descent, but an american citizen. he offered information, i bounced him over to roger stone. and roger stone met with him and figured out that he was a crack pot and he moved along. when i answered that way, i could tell that the color wlawy was questioning me, his face just fell. it was clear they avoided a perjury trap. because they thought that if i didn't answer it with the house correctly, that i wasn't going to answer it correctly with them. but since i had been through the exercise with my attorney, i recalled it when they asked. and i realized they knew more about this meeting than i did. >> right, because i know you're saying, you weren't at the meeting. we have the text messages afterwards, when stone told you he wants big money for the info. waste of time. did your lawyer get these messages? i'm curious what would make you remember if it was so insignificant, suddenly you remembered it? >> well, it was more along the lines of anything insignificant i

henry greenberg, they claim that they got no information from him for reasons that may have something to do with the fact that he demanded $2 million and that their rec lex was th recollection was that donald trump does not pay for anything. if that is the case,rec recollection was that donald trump does not pay for anything. if that is the case,ec recollection was that donald trump does not pay for anything. if that is the case,c recollection was that donald trump does not pay for anything. if that is the case, recollection was that donald trump does not pay for anything. if that is the case, if they walked away thinking we candidn get anything, is it plausible that they didn't recall this meeting? >> i don't think it is plausible. i think that they were very well schooled on what they were going to say and what they weren't going to say. they are close friends. they in fact then heard about this and then subsequently you had the trump campaign a month later meeting with russians about dirt on hillary. so all of this was building up. i don't believeor one minute that this was an fbi

that man identified himself as henry greenberg. according to roger stone, he offered dirt on hillary clinton with a $2 million price tag. roger stone tells "the washington post" the conversation did not go anywhere but it is of interest to special counsel robert mueller and his team. joining me now, charlie savage, "washington post" for "the new york times." barbara mcquaid, former u.s. attorney and now the university of michigan law school. charlie, help me make sense of this story. it is a thorny one to be sure. tell us a little bit about who henry greenberg is and what he was proffering? >> this is a fascinating story as "the washington post" rolled it out today. roger stone is admitting that he misled the house intelligence committee by saying he had no other contacts -- or no contacts with russians. now he's saying, yes, he did, he had this guy that he forgot about and this was someone that was coming to him in miami and approaching the campaign, got to him saying i'll give you some dirt in late may of 2016 about hillary clint

the man identified himself as henry greenberg and allegedly tried to sell stone dirt on hillary clinton. the meeting was described in a pair of letters sent to the house intelligence committee and first reported by the "washington post." rudy giuliani appeared on "face the nation" yesterday. he acknowledged the meeting bus dismissed its significance. >> the president doesn't know a darn thing about russian frusiocoern rog oomtone s from anybody else,nd i would suspect he hasn't talked to the president about it because it's quoted in the "washington post." i can't even understand why they're running the story. nothing came of this.que, a waste of time, close quote. >>> stone and a trump campaign aide arranged the meeting. they didn't disclose it in the house intelligence committee meeting. stone now believes greenberg was an fbi informant trying to set them up. >>> a powerful earthquake hit ngpat,itery n gh nieaosviaka lint wes atern ja. it struck buildings, brought down concrete walls, and set off fires. hundreds of thousands of commuters were forced to exit trains and walk along the tr

the man who called himself henry greenberg allegedly offered damaging information on hillary clintonchange for $2 million. we spoke to stone on the phone. >> i thought the meeting was ludicrous. $2 million for unspecified documents. i had no interest. i knew he would have no interest, never mentioned to him or anyone in his campaign. >> reporter: greenberg had reached out to michael caputo who set up the meeting with stone. caputo was asked about it by pierre thomas last month. >> did you ever see or witness any contacts with the russians? >> nobody ever asked me about russia, nobody ever spoke to me about how russia might help. >> reporter: stone said he ultimately did not agree to pay for dirt on clinton. rudy giuliani claiming the president was not aware of the contact. >> no, i haven't talked to roger. he's never talked to the president about it. so where's the collusion? and he said it was a waste of time. >> reporter: stone told abc news, i never discussed this approach which i now believe was an fbi setup with president trump. stone and caputo both alleging that it was an fbi

the man who calls himself henry greenberg allegedly offered damaging information on hillary clinton in exchange for $2 million. we spoke to stone on the phone -- >> i thought the meeting was ludicrous, $2 million for classified documents. i had no interest. i knew he would have no interest. never mentioned to him or anyone in his campaign. greenberg had reached out to an associate of the campaign, michael caputo who then set up the meeting with stone. michael caputo then set up the >> did you see or witness any contact? >> nobody ever asked me about russia. >> nobody ever spoke to me about how russia might help. >> stone said he ultimately did not agree to pay for the dirt on clinton. the president's lawyer rudy giuliani claiming that the president was not aware of the contact. >> no, i haven't talked to roger and he's never talked to the president about it, and where is the collusion? he said it was a waste of time. >> reporter: stone told abc news in a statement, "i never discussed this approach, which i now believe was an fbi set up, with donald trump." stone and caputo both allegin

>> >> i associate said a man named henry greenberg has information to be valuable to the trump campaigni agreed to meet with him. when i met with hem for 20 minutes in south florida. he said i want to sell you information on hillary clinton and it will cost you $2 million. >> a, i don't have $2 million. b, if i did i wouldn't pay for information. he laughed and said it's not your money i want, it's donald trump's money. the meeting is inconsequence with combination. nothing improper or illegal happened. jesse: you have a russian national former fbi informant. >> probably current. >> coming at you in 2016 offering paid dirt on hillary clinton. >> right. he's a convicted violent felon, spent five years in jail in russia. technically shouldn't be able to get in the country. the fbi bureau in mic sponsored him. his is about the same time the australian am bass doirs not bumping into but meeting with george papadopoulos. jesse: this is also around the same time where will rsh, the obama a.g., allowed the russian laura special visa grant to come into this country and meet the trumps at trump

the man who called himself henry greenberg allegedly offered damaging information on hillary clinton in exchange for $2 million. we spoke to stone on the phone. >> i thought the meeting was ludicrous, $2 million for unspecified documents. i had no interest, i knew he would have no interest. never mention today him or anyone in his campaign. >> reporter: he reached out to an associate with the trump campaign who then set up the meeting. did you ever see or witness any contacts with the russians? if. >> no, not at all. nobody ever asked me about russia. nobody ever spoke to me about how russia might help. >> reporter: stone said he ultimately did not agree to pay for the dirt on clinton. the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, claiming that the president was not aware of the contact. >> i haven't talked to roger. he's never talked to the president about it, so where's the collusion. he said it was a waste of time. >> stone told abc news, i never discussed this approach which i now believe was an fbi set up with donald trump. stone and caputo both alleging that it was an fbi trap. that g

he told the washington post that he met the man calling himself henry greenberg in may 2016. he wanted to million dollars for damaging information which stone turned down. michael caputo to -- caputo arranged the meeting. >>> a hearing today in the trial of five sex assault suspects after a protest in berkeley turned violent. the five defendants are facing misdemeanor assault charges. they were counter protesters who showed up to protest her right ring rally in celtic center -- civic center in march of last year. >>> homes could be at risk of soon being underwater, literally, according to a report released today. katie nielsen is live in san mateo with what this all means. >> reporter: we are here at a waterfront office complex in san mateo. this entire area could be underwater in our lifetime. take a look at these maps. you can see it shows predictions for what areas are at risk of flooding in 2045 if sea levels continue to rise. fast forward another 50 years, this is what it could look like at the end of the century. 20,000 homes could be at risk with a total real estate va

henry greenberg turned out to be an fbi informant of russian descent.itted to the country 9 times who is a violent felon who could not be in the country. then he tries to entrap me, but he gives away the game when he wants $2 million for negative information on hillary clinton. when i tell him i don't have 2 mammoths. -- $2 million. he said it's not your money. it's donald trump's money. i think is the first known example of the peter strzok insurance policy. i think it was an fbi plant seeking to compromise and to entrap me and compromise trump. >> sean: why didn't you mention it earlier? again, your lawyer said you spoke honestly and truthfully. it never came up in the hearing. why didn't you bring it up? >> in all honesty this is may of 2016 when is prior to hillary clinton raising russian phobia. i didn't remember it. since the results of the meeting, don't produce anything illegal or improper. i have no reason to hide it. i merely forgot it. the more important question is: why is a government informant who has been admitted into the country 9 times

the russian national identified as henry greenberg. he met with roger stone and caputo. >> this gentleman presented himself as an individual, not a person from the government of russia. then if you read "the washington post" article, he was offering private information from a former employee of the clinton foundation. this isn't an approach from a government at all, except it's an approach from a united states government. first they say they forgot, then they say the meeting was of no consequence. >> well, the meetings just keep on rolling, don't they? >> well, the meetings keep unrolling, don't they, don? this is, what, number 14, i guess, in the latest count. roger stone's recovered memory certainly took a little while to get recovered, and might be helped by the fact that the house intelligence committee is already targeting him for potential false testimony. so i think he might want to clean up everything he can. >> yep. you're right. 14, paul manafort, trump jr., george papadopoulos, carter page, jeff sessions, j.d. gordon, michae

>> he's a longtime associate of mine and asked me to meet with the gentleman by the name of henry greenberg. that is not his real name. he had information he said he wanted to pass on to the trump campaign. i met with mr. greenberg who is a longtime fbi informant. he said he wanted to million dollars for unspecified information. needless to say i declined and said i did not have $2 million. even if i did i would not use it to buy political information. and he said it's not your money i want, it's donald trump's. he said donald trump doesn't pay for political information. i have reported this meeting now that he has refresh my memory it was a 20 minute exchange, even mr. greenberg and the washington post confirms there was no transaction and i declined. knowing the extensive background as fbi informant, it's clear this was a sting operation of some kind. an attempt to penetrate the trump effort and perhaps compromised donald trump. i have given my entire recollection no to the house intelligence committee. >> the characterization in the washington post stories you did not disclose it to fede

roger stone met with a russian man who was going by the name henry greenberg and said he had damagingtion on hillary clinton but wanted $2 million of donald trump's money. so now in this lengthy statement, stone explains that he went to this meeting. he declined the offer, but he didn't do anything illegal, he didn't do anything inappropriate. nothing came of the meeting and he happened to forget about it until his colleague michael caputo's memory was jogged about this. roger stone has not met with robert mueller's team, but michael caputo does, and in preparation for this interview, he recalled this interaction with this russian. this russian claimed to be an fbi informant in court filings. that has roger stone very worked up. he is saying he was illegally surveilled. he is saying this was all a setup by the fbi to entrap another member of trump's team. i'm going to bring you a portion of i multi-statement from roger stone. he said, so the real question is not why i failed to remember an innocent meeting, it's the fbi was using an informant to set me up. >> is the fbi saying anythin

a long time associate of mine asked me to meet with a gentleman by the name of henry greenberg. turns out that's not his real name because he had information that he said he wanted to pass on to the trump campaign. i met with mr. greenberg who has now been revealed to be a long-time f.b.i. informant and he told me he wanted $2 million for unspecified infortion. needless to say i declined. i said i didn't have $2 million and even if i did i wouldn't use it to buy political information. he laughed and said well it's not your money i want. it's donald trump's. i said you really don't understand. donald trump doesn't pay for political information. i have reported this meeting now that mr. cap uto has refreshed my memory to the house intelligence committee. it was a 20-minute exchange. even mr. greenberg in the "washington post" confirms that there was no transaction and that i declined. now, knowing mr. greenberg's extensive background as an f.b.i. inform nt, it is pretty clear to me that this was a sting operation of some kind, an attempt to penetrate the trump effort and perhaps c

caputo was actually the one who arranged the meeting between stone and the russian who called himz henry greenberg. neither of them disclosed the meeting to russian probe investigators when they were asked months ago. president trump's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, also wondered about any role the fbi may have had in setting up that meeting. >> the most extraordinary thing is, on some document he described himself as an informant. every informant i ever had tried to keep that secret. you don't, like, say, oh, i'm an informant, i can come to the united states. it sounds like a very strange guy. was he an fbi informant or not? we know from the probe by the inspector general, the fbi at the highest levels here were doing very, very unorthodox things, if not out and out illegal and unethical. so would they be using a guy like this? i doubt it because you don't just say you're an informant. >> i want to bring in our crime and justice reporter shimon prokupecz who has been reporting on these developments. so roger stone and michael caputo, shimon, they both are saying they forgot about this meeting

he was approached by a man who went by the name of henry greenberg. to sell the trump campaign damaging information about hillary clinton. and greenberg was apparently an fbi informant, and he believes the entire scheme was an effort by the fbi to set up the trump campaign. what is the truth? andy mccartney is a contributor counterfeiting editor at the national review and he joins us tonight. what do you make of the story? >> it's yet another one of these stories where there is a russian involved. there must be collusion and it must fit into the narrative somehow, but it really doesn't -- there is no limit your connection anymore to me at least for all these stories and what the original allegation was, which was there was a conspiracy between the trump campaign and the kremlin. not just assorted russians, but the russian government, to commit espionage to overturn the election or to change the result of the election. and i think, you know, if there was anything to this particular story, we will have to wait to see all the facts that come out, but why

he says he was approached by a man who went by the name of henry greenberg. to sell the trump campaign damagingg. information about hillary clinton, connected to russians. stone says he said togn the man, trump never pays for anything, and that was it. greenberg was apparently an fbi informant for some number of years. stone now says he believes the entire scheme was an effort by the fbi to set up the trumphe campaign. what is the truth? a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york on the contributing editor of "national review," a very close observer of this story, and he joins us tonight. what do you make of the story? >> tucker, i think it is yet another one of these stories where there is a russian ruinvolved so there must be collusion or at most of it into the narrative somehow. but it really doesn't -- there ises no linear connection anymoe to me at least, to all these stories and what the original allegation was, which was that there was a conspiracy between the trump campaign and the kremlin, not just assorted russians, the r

mister caputo, a longtime associate asked me to meet with a gentleman by the name of henry greenberg. turns out that's not his real name because he had information he said he wanted to pass on to the trump campaign. i met with mister greenberg who has been revealed to be a long time fbi informant and he told me he wanted to million dollars for unspecified information. needless to say i declined, said i didn't have to million dollars and if i did, i would use it to buy political information. he said it's not your money i want, it's donald trump's. i said you really don't understand. donald trump doesn't pay for political information. i've reported d in this meeting that mister caputo has refreshed my memory to the house intelligence committee, it was a 20 minute exchange. even mister greenberg and the washington post confirms there was no transaction and that i declined it. knowing mister greenberg's extensive background as an fbi informant, it is clear to me that this was a sting operation of some kind, and attempt to penetrate the trump effort and perhaps compromise donald trump hims

>> i mean, it amounted to a minute on the phone with the guy whose name he claimed was henry greenberg. i assumed he was a russian or at least an israeli from his accent. but he is offering negative information about hillary. >> sean: you didn't know he was a russian? >> when i spoke to the mueller investigation about this, i told them i assumed he was a russian but i thought he was an american citizen. as it turned out, the mueller investigation already knew that he was a russian citizen, not an american citizen. that really set off alarm bells for me because when i disclosed it to the mueller investigation unprompted, they knew more about it than i did. they knew he was a russian citizen, not an american. and so to me -- "fox news @ night" what testimony did you have to amend? now you know it's an fbi spy. >> the house select committee on intelligence, i amended my testimony from july of 2017, i amended last week with the help of my attorney. my attorney helped me refresh my memory on this before the senate and mueller investigation where he told me i was going to have to do that eve

forgot to tell investigators about their contact with a russian national who goes by the name henry greenbergthough they say this greenberg fellow offered to sell incriminating information to the trump campaign for $2 million. well, first of all, how often in life are you just offered $2 million for campaign dirt, so i can see them forgetting. how is mueller likely to approach that story? why didn't you tell us the first time? >> he's likely to approach it as a lie. that's basically what it is. i mean this guy came to them. he was a russian. and caputo knew he was a russian. he set up the meeting with roger stone. roger stone met him. he had a heavy russian accent. he was -- roger stone remembered his accent. he remembered his hat. he remembered his t-shirt. he remembered he offered him $2 million in return for dirt. and then they had text messages exchanged. and then he forgot it all. now what are the chances of that? and suddenly when bob mueller's office could produce the text to caputo when he was being interviewed, they remembered. it was just a miracle. it just came back up. it was just

stone and the russian national who goes by the name of henry greenberg were. by both stone and caputo and both men now claim it was all a set up. joining us now is michael caputo, very much the man in the middle of it all. thanks so much for being here. i want to take you back to the summer of 2017. this is after james comey has been fired. this is in the middle of the russia investigation frenzy. everyone's talking about whether or not the trump campaign had any contacts with russia. you go into the house intelligence committee and they ask you if you had any contacts with any russians during the campaign. your answer was no. that wasn't true. how did it slip your mind? >> the answer wasn't no. my answer, i went through a whole litany of contacts. my daughter is russian. many people in my family are russian. people i work with in my business are russian. i'm mostly in the entertainment business, but when it comes down to it, the question that they asked me was, did any russian offer you information about hillary clinton. it was on that line of a question. my

this russian man went by the name henry greenberg. but our reporting shows that he has gone by a number of additional names and under a different name, henry okiansky, he filed a document in court in 2015 in which he said that he had worked as an informant for the fbi for 17 years. now, that document also said that he had stopped cooperating with the fbi in 2013. and we were able to reach mr. greenberg, and he denied meeting with roger stone on behalf of the fbi. but that document, that claim certainly has given roger stone and michael caputo some room here to question is it possible that this man came to them in may of 2016 on behalf of the fbi. >> is there any evidence to suggest that this man was actually acting on the fbi's behalf? >> yeah, there's not. the evidence that we've got is just that history. i should say that he also submitted some immigration documents to the court that are generally consistent with the idea that he had provided information to law enforcement between about 2008 and 2012. so it does seem likely that he h

caputo he and his associate roger stone had the same inability to remember that a russian haimed henry greenbergffered to sell them dirt on hoda kotb in 2016. here's how stone described his memory lapse the other day. >> i had no memory of this is was an innocuous exchange. this guy shows up wearing a megahat and trump t-shirt, makes this offer i decline nothing inappropriate happened here and i have now refreshed my committee and informed the committee. >> refresh my memory as an active verb. >> rudy giuliani also downplayed the significance of the disclosure because he says nothing ultimately claim of the meeting. >> it seems to me however, whatever the recollection differingrections about this it sort of gets resolved with the fact stone did nothing about it, came to the conclusion according to post it was a waste of time. he and greenberg came to the conclusion it was a waste of time. >> now that they've disclosed it two years after it happened they're claiming they were set up by the fbi. the meeting with governorburg is another point of contact that reportedly took place between trump asso

. >> it was a russian guy named i don't know if i can pronounce this henry greenberg, right you knowow. supposedly he's own to the fbi. he wanted $2 million for the dirt on hillary. >> right >> but stone -- >> he didn't campaign -- >> didn't cop tos initially unsome other guy roger stone is a shady character. hat's a key point. when the fbi comes and asks you questions, you don't answer it correctly, that's where you end up in prison as mueller continues, we're finding these stories start fall apart >> going to appear before congress as well >> he's offered to we'll see if that will be in live testimony on television. >> wow >> n looks like kushner's star is rising a little bit over the weekend. i don't know if you saw the story in ""the new york times"" about the connection between him and this meeting with kim jong-un took place. >> yeah, no, putting all of these things together, that's absolutely true. we're seeing a lot of the back stories how kushner is a channel, the person the president trusts the most to set these up he was instrumental in setting this up in saudi arabia. abs

a long time associate of mine asked me to meet with a gentleman by the name of henry greenberg.urns out that's not his real name because he had information that he said he wanted to pass on to the trump campaign. i met with mr. greenberg who has now been revealed to be a long-time f.b.i. informant and he told me he wanted $2 million for unspecified information. needlesso y i declined. i said i didn't have $2 million and even if i did iouldn' use it to buy political information. he laughed and said well it's not your money i want. it's donald trump's. i said you really don't understand. donald trump doesn't pay for political information. i have reported this meeting now that mr. cap uto has refreshed my memory to the house intelligence committee. it was a 20-minute exchange. even mr. greenberg in the "washington post" confirms that there was no transaction and that i declined. now, knowing mr. greenberg's extensive background as an f.b.i. inform nt, it is pretty clear to me that this was a sting operation of some kind, an attempt to penetrate the trump effort and perhaps compromi