kennedy, and the batter is henry jackson of washington. it was a posed photograph. eade jackson's son told me recently that they had to wait for john f. kennedy to pull up. he was late for the picture. he took the picture and off he went. >> this shows milton young. >> he was facing a tough battle. he was a student of karate. somebody in his staff suggested he did a photo of his carotid class. the fact that you can chop block of wood in half with your fist with the side of your hand as a campaign picture to show how vigorous and up to the job you were. they did and for whatever reason, he won the race. >> how many posed to you have? >> about 40,000. >> how you get them? >> be inherited a lot -- we inherited a lot. then, our current photo historian takes a good amount of time taking pictures when the senate is in session. we were able to take advantage of the old harris and ewing photo board when it went out of business, we received some of their photos. this is a good one. the most prominent person is everett dirksen. it is the unveiling of the portraits of the five

they leaked classified reports to senator henry jackson. he held hearings at the atomic energy committee. they fed him information for these hearings. they were closed, secret hearings. then jackson and another senator wrote president eisenhower and said that you have to look into this thing. it is terribly important and you are not looking at it. eisenhower told the head of the department to schedule a briefing, not knowing that these were the men that drafted the letter that jackson had signed. the head of the national security council, before the briefing when he is giving instructions on how they have to keep this thing to have fun our, told them that they were not to refer to this letter that had been sent to the president by scoop jackson. they were the guys that drafted the letter. >> this still goes on today? >> it was very shrewdly done. the briefing was on july 28 and eisenhower had some bureaucratic paperwork to go through. eisenhower signed off on on september 13 and then had a heart attack 10 days letter and was not able to hol

henry jackson said, "paid no attention during the process, because legislation is like making sausage and at the end of the day, you just want a compromise that has a tasting good." that is where we are at here. tremendous disagreement over the details, but a recognition that employees want health care, that employers must make sure they had it. but employers don't like being told to do anything, so they want a free rein it tied to the current pre-emption. that seems to be universal. >> okay, see how easy this is going to be? let me finish off this initial round by turning to ken thorpe. everybody u.s. spoken so far has talked about health care costs. -- everybody who has spoken so far has talked about health care costs. they have been criticized severely for not doing enough to hold down health-care costs. i wonder if you think that is a fair criticism. if it is, what changes would you advise congress to make and the president to make in this final plan? keeping in mind what the nfib and the chamber were saying. >> it is a top starting point, but thanks, ed. we started this discussio

kennedy, and the batter is henry jackson of washington. it was a posed photograph. reade jackson's son told me recently that they had to wait for john f. kennedy to pull up. he was late for the picture. he took the picture and off he went. >> this shows milton young. >> he was facing a tough battle. he was a student of karate. somebody in his staff suggested he do a photo of his karate class. the fact that you can chop a block of wood in half with your fist with the side of your hand as a campaign picture to show how vigorous and up to the job you are. they did and for whatever reason, he won the race. >> how many photos do you have? >> about 40,000. >> how did you get them? >> we inherited a lot. then, our current photo historian takes a good amount of time taking pictures when the senate is in session. we were able to take advantage of the old harris and ewing photo board when it went out of business. we received some of their photos. this is a good one. the most prominent person is everett dirksen. it is the unveiling of the portraits of the five outstanding sena

produced the book the dance of legislation, which is good reading for this topic and every other and henry jackson always at home said, pay no attention during the process because legislaon is like making sausage and at the end of the day you just he for a compmise that has a taste that is good. that seems to be where we are at here, tremendous disagreement ov t details but a recognition that employees want health care, that employers must make sure they have it, but employers don't like being told to do anything, so they want a ee rein tied to the current erisa preemption and that seems to be universal. >> see how easy this is going to be? let me just fish off this initial round by turning to ken thorpe. everybody who has spoken so far as talked about health care costs and certainly the bill is moving forward have attempted to put some cost controls into their provisions. they have also been criticized pretty severely for n doing enough to hold do health care costs and i wonder if you think that is a fair criticism and if that is what changes would he would vies congress to make and the president

henry jackson said, "paid no attention during the process, because legislation is like making sausagehe end of the day, you just want a compromise that has a tasting good." that is where we are at here. tremendous disagreement over the details, but a recognition that employees want health care, that employers must make sure they had it. but employers don't like being told to do anything, so they want a free rein it tied to the current pre-emption. that seems to be universal. >> okay, see how easy this is going to be? let me finish off this initial round by turning to ken thorpe. everybody u.s. spoken so far has talked about health care costs. -- everybody who has spoken so far has talked about health care costs. they have been criticized severely for not doing enough to hold down health-care costs. i wonder if you think that is a fair criticism. if it is, what changes would you advise congress to make and the president to make in this final plan? keeping in mind what the nfib and the chamber were saying. >> it is a top starting point, but thanks, ed. we started this discussion about h

they started -- they leafed class -- leaked classified reports to senator henry "scoop" jackson a big hawk from washington. and he held hearings in the joint atomic energy committee. they fed him information through these hearings. and they were closed hearings. secret hearings. then jackson and another prominent senator wrote president eisenhower and said you've got to look into this thing, this is terribly important and you're not looking at it and you've got to do something about it. you've got to be briefed on it. eisenhower told the head of the n.f.c. to schedule a briefing. not knowing that the men who were going to brief him were the men who drafted the letter that jackson had signed. and who had incity gate the whole thing. and the head of the national security council before the briefing whezz giving the instruction of how they've got to keep this thing to half an hour, etc., told them they were not under any circumstances to refer to this letter which had been sent to the president. by scoop jackson. not knowing that they were the guys who drafted the letter. >> this kind of