henry kamilowitz, [speaker not understood] also the south of market business association. this is not an easy process to get through the different departments to get a permit issued. so, for someone today [speaker not understood] to go out and get a permit, you have to navigate through so many areas, you know, starting from planning to dpw to health to a whole mo rass to try to get a permit. that's why people come to dpi. they get lost in there trying to get from one place to another. so, it really -- what conceptual consultants is to be able to navigate, to get a permit quicker because they know who to go to see, what to say with their -- with the drawings, sometimes the drawings aren't correct. you have to go back and [speaker not understood], so forth. bottom line, though, bottom line, permit consult atctiontion ~ consultants are not lobbyists. they do not deal with elected officials nor appointed officials. so, i urge you to really reconsider the way the legislation is written right now. i also [speaker not understood] did not have too many meetings with stakeholders.