henry kissinger goes on the record. the town hall process continues. >> [unintelligible] >> it triples premiums. >> stand up and fight. we woke vote -- we will vote you out. [unintelligible] [applause] >> it got a little bit rough these days. next question. he did not answer it. he taught in circles. >> people come to town meetings who have objections. i emphasize that they may not be representative of america. their views have to be taken into account. >> there is some disagreement. >> how are we supposed trust you? is there an option to say no to this bill? >> it is not about health care reform or insurance reform. it is about government control. >> i charge you with usurping authority not granted to you as a u.s. senator. >greta: houston, texas a councilwoman answers a cell phone while a cancer survivor asks her a question. >> if you're conscious allows you, what are you doing for america -- >> seriously, really. come on. [unintelligible] >> do you think this is good for america? when does it stop? greta: tracy asked

former secretary of state henry kissinger joins us -- it is real. are we doing enough?d we be concerned that the nuclear arsenal in pakistan will get into the hands of islamic extremists or the taliban? >> i think it is certainly a matter of concern of any nuclear weapons falling into the hands of extremists, especially in pakistan, where there is a very active jihadist movement. i have seen no evidence that would question that pakistan has a under firm control, but it is an issue that should concern -- has it under firm control, but it is an issue that should concern us and any other country that could be affected by a nuclear attack from terrorists. greta: besides the fact that they have got so much turmoil in pakistan, it includes the fact that the military is in charge of protecting it, and it is hard for us to think the military is not somewhat sympathetic -- some of the military -- sympathetic to the extremists and anti- western. am i wrong? >> some elements in the military might well be sympathetic to extremists. on the other hand, the military in pakistan are th

and henry kissinger said to me he was very surprised. it was the first administration he could remember where he talked to me and then he talked to somebody in the white house who got the same story. it's because we really try to hash out problems in private. we really understand the significance of the responsibilities that we shoulder at a time of great peril and promise in american history. and the president is a disciplined, decisive person in the meetings that we have, so it's been a rewarding, professional and personal experience. >> so you've watched two white houses up close. what would you say is the principal difference between the way bill clinton ran the white house and the way barack obama runs the white house? >> i think both of them just bring enormous intelligence to the job. obviously, i know bill much better, but i have seen in president obama as well, you know, just an intelligence that is so compelling to struggle with difficult issues that are put before you. i think that the time in which bill served was so differen

when henry kissinger became secretary of state, he found the juan w one way to end that rivalry was for one person to occupy both positions. hillary clinton is different, isn't she? she's still an enormously popular figure in the democratic figure, still one of the most admired americans both at home and abroad, and still a woman of formidable talent and drive. can she use all that to carve out a role and what distinctive mark does she want to leave in her position as secretary of state? what is her vision for the world? these are some of the questions i asked her in nairobi, kenya. let's get started. >> madam secretary, thank you for taking time out of this very hectic schedule to spend with us. >> thank you fareed. thank you for coming to nairobi for this opportunity. >> it is my pleasure. north korea, tell us a little bit more about it. so president clinton comes back, he spends three hours talking to the leader of north korea, kim jong-il what was his impression? >> we're going to get a full debriefing which we really haven't had a chance to get. >> you haven't had the chance to spe

smoz it was henry kissinger, everybody would have laughed and said they cuffed henry. it would have been a joke. >> if he were white, all of those talk show hosts who are screaming now about what obama did would be saying this is the sanctity of a man's home and it was invaded by the storm troopers. >> you are telling me if it was alan dershowitz we would have complained if they cuffed him? >> maybe not dershowitz. >> the fact that henry louis gates is a famous guy, a harvard professor is what brought it to the national station stage. this is a good opportunity -- >> do you think professor gates was outraged? they brought him to the police headquarters and photographed him. >> when i came to the states, the first thing i was told was don't argue with cops. i'm always more careful in states. >>> the final question before we go to the exit question is, the performance of the sergeant at the press conference. was it flawless? >> i think the sergeant is a very large -- >> is he a political figure now? >> he's very positive. he's a potential political figure. he hasn't retr

we've lost the day of john foster dulles and henry kissinger she is popular in that role, these imagesn't foster that. >> bonnie: but condi rice was quite popular. >> but what we learned from africa was extremely important. not only was president clinton sent to save the day, but these hot-spots all over the globe, these seasoned elder statesman men, from ho holbrook to george mitchell. >> anybody who thinks that hillary clinton is not in on the policy of this administration, doesn't know hillary and doesn't know the administration. i love the notion that instead of having a secretary of state that sits there, and worries over these spots, she has agents out at these spots. and i also don't believe, i believe it is much too early, to write her off as no john foster dulles. this woman has such personal and imuintellectual power, that when she starts to fill that office you will know. >> i don't know, i think it will be a big leap to say that the country will see that type leadership again. but i would not discount her ability to come out as a very strong leader, especially when you comp

. >> eric: this morning henry kissinger as you point out in the "washington post" calls it blackmail. >> i was very happy to see former secretary of state kissinger's op-ed, i think he's right on target. expressed concerns, very similar to what i have been saying, that when you get the americans out, as was done this week with the two journalists you want to do it in a way that does not increase this risk for other americans. we can see in iran right now, the three americans there, who have been moved from the border area with iraq, to tehran and we see employees of the british and french embassy now put on trial by the iranian authorities, including one french national. so, the risk here i think is very real, and the concern about giving in to these in fact terrorist demands, something i think should concern us greatly. >> eric: we have the freedom we are looking at for these two and there are three american hikers now held by iran and seems sometimes these innocent americans can be pawns in the international chess board by these rogue states. ambassador john bolten, fox news contrib

a winged chair and i was on a couch next to the chair nearest edward and teddy next to me and henry kissingerontrol experts and i was this 30-year-old kid and harriman had a way of including everyone in the conversation. they were talking about a complicated arms control agreement, and this discussion was going on and all of a sudden harriman looked at me and said, joe, what do the young people think about this? [laughter] >> i didn't know what the hell to say, john. i was squared to death. i didn't want to make a fool of me. here i was a united states senator. so i reached over and picked an object up off the coffee table. and i was nervous and i was flipping it back and forth in my hands, i guess, as i answered the question. and i noticed everyone stiffened up when i was talking. and the butler came in and said time for dinner and everybody immediately got up and bolted for the dinner table. and your dad grabbed my arm and said damn it, put that thing down, that costs more than your house. i was flipping a faberge egg in my hands. so the sophisticated kid from delaware. [laughter] >> it see

armchair -- excuse me a wing chair, i was on the couch next to the chair, teddy was next to me, henry kissinger. and this discussion was going on, and all of a sudden he looked at me and said, well, joe, what do the young people think about this? i didn't know what to say, john, i was scared to death, i didn't want to make a fool of me. here i was a united states senator. so i reached over and picked an object up off the coffee table. and i was nervous and i was flipping it back and forth in my hands like this as i answered the question. and i noticed everyone stiffened up when i was talking. and the butler came in and said time for dinner and everybody immediately got up and bolted for the dinner table. grabbed my arm and my arm and said, dammit, put that thing down. that costs more than your house. it was a faberge egg in my hand. so the sophisticated kid from delaware. it seemed like every single thing i did, he was there when my character was under attack, i sat with the committee and said maybe he shouldn't chair this committee until this gets settled and your father stood up and said, no.

second, i went through my notes that back in the forum here in new york city in march of 2007, henry kissinger and madeline albright, the former secretary of state stress in their opinion that north korea needed to have a deal in place before the end of the bush administration because regardless of the election, with the new administration tougher to get a deal. and my notes show here that the man i mentioned earlier, a big player in north korea responded by saying here's a hint. send somebody who is high enough up to deal with our leadership, and a deal will get done. it never got done, i think the best we can say about this looking with some optimism to it that the door has opened and we'll have to see where it goes from here, but make no mistake the north koreans, they're eager to keep their respect, but they're eager for the world to know this is their viewpoint that they're credible, they'll be tough negotiators on the nuclear weapons issue, but they do want to deal. >> larry: laura -- >> of course, it's a another matter. >> larry: laura called her family after she was detained. here's li

. >> rose: including the president of the united states and henry kissinger, and sam nunn. >> especially the gang around reagan. >> that's i think the beauty of it that it is something that the right wing republicans generally believe in. so it's something we may have a chance to do. >> rose: mutually assured destruction is not a good idea. >> i don't think it's a good idea. it works up to a point. it's not something we should rely on. >> rose: and do you think the united states, to lead the way, should reduce its stockpile of weapons by how much? >> i would say total. i mean i'd like-- >> rose: just go right out and get rid of all of them and show the world the right direction. >> that's what nixon did with biological weapons and it was a wonderful move. he did it youn laterally becausey so he didn't have to have it ratified by the senate. he didn't have to negotiate with anybody. we said if we get rid of our weapons we will destroy the stockpiles, and it happened one afternoon. >> rose: would woe be less of a nation? >> i don't think so pup. but that's a matter of opinion. the public b

>>ose: including the predent of thenited states and henry kissinger, and sam nunn. >> especially the gg around reagan >> that's i think the auty of it that it is something that the right wi rublicans generly believin. so it's something we may have a chance to do. >> re: mutlly assured destction is not a good idea. >> i don think it's a good idea. it works up to a pnt. it's not something we suld ly on. >> rose: a do you think the united states, to lead theay, ould reduce s stockpile of weapons by how much? i would say total. i mean i'd lik- >> rose: jt goright out a t rid of all of them andhow the world the right direction. >> that's wt nixonid with biological weapons and iwas a wonderful move. he did it youn lateral beusey so he didn't have to havet ratified by the senate. he didn't have to negoate with anybody. said if we get rid of our weapons we will destroy the stockpiles, d it happened one afternoon. >> rose: would wo be less of a tion? >> i don't think so pu but that's a maer ofpinion. the public believes nuear weapons give them security. i don't ink so. it's auestion of balanc

we saw henry kissinger in those shots.eil: i'm always wondering, the time particularly with the press or thin skinned with the president, this is sort of a bipartisan itchiness with the press. isn't it? i mean, it goes back a long way. nixon, the argument was, it carried it to new levels. did he? you studied the man. >> well, certainly nixon velt victimized by the press over many years' time. he gave that famous self-emulating cry when he retired from politics, as it turned out temporarily. in 1962, "just think what you're going to be missing. you won't have nixon to kick around anymore." and former alaska governor sarah palin when she gave her resignation speech in july of this year had some costic words for the news media. what some i think have recognized and i think actually richard nixon was among the first to recognize, was that there was political profit to be had in sparring with the news media. in fact, it was h.r.haldiman, the nixon chief of staff, who laid down the law no one is to refer to the press anymore, to

traditionally you know, andrea, you don't have henry kissinger and the secretary of defense out speaking -- >> that may not be the best example, because henry did a lot of things in the white house, he was both national security adviser and secretary of state. so he was bridging a lot of divides, on foreign policy. >> you don't have the secretary of state out on a political campaign. they and the secretary of defense are above and beyond that usually in a campaign and especially for hillary clinton, who has risen above the partisanship of the campaign, which was necessary to be secretary of state. already, a lot of her franchise is being outsourced to bill clinton, to richardson to mitchell, to biden, to -- i mean to dennis ross and to who wihol. she is losing the whole franchise. let me say one thing. i don't think she lost the franchise and effective as secretary of state, unfortunately because of a lot of issues tangled up, we didn't see a lot what she achieved on the africa trip. she continues to be a strong advocate, she commands the public stage, not just here but around the world.

henry kissinger's opposition today in the post, while we are all happy for these journalists to be reunited to their families we now have three hikers in iran being held by the iranian government. are we going to send bill clinton tehran to get those three out? what is the outcome of that? this was a -- a definite benefit to kim jong-il and the north korean government, this photo-op with former president clinton. >> we'll see if better diplomacy comes of t better relations comes of it. ed gillespie, donna brazile, thanks for coming in. >> straight ahead, how do folks feel at eugene, or goegooregon, the unemployment rate has doubled in the past year? welcome home, man. hot! hot! hot! time to check your air conditioning? come to meineke now and get a free ac system check. at meineke, you're always the driver. . >>> our traveling this week took us out to the pacific northwest to a state that back a quarter century ago was a swing state. this is oregon, back in 1984, when ronald reagan -- blue, blue, blue, blue, and blue. oregon now reliably democratic. let's look at that. there are 894,000 reg

henry kissinger writes this this morning in the op-ed piece in "the washington post." >> did this presidentust hand kim jong-il a propaganda victory? >> i don't think so. i mean, maybe in kim jong-il's mind and he'll play it out inside of north korea anyay he wants, but we vetted this mission with the south koreans, the japanese, with the chinese weather the russian, and we had 100% support by all these countries. the former president also asked for the release of a south korean detainee and the japanese abduck tees, which we think would be also a great picture to see the reunification of those families, which we're very concerned about. so, no, i just think that we wanted to get those girls out, the north koreans gave us a path to that, and the president of the united states said we want these families reunified. they shouldn't be hel in captivity. and by the way, if we hadn't done that, we'd be having a different conversation tonight -- today because they would have said, well, you had an opportunity just to send the former president. >> all right. to that point, former president clinton, he

in doing that, his national security adviser, henry kissinger, drew the lesson from past efforts to negotiate with both the chinese and the russians that peripheral intelligence operations more frequently would result in scuttling these diplomatic overtures than not and therefore he went about shutting down all operations targeting the chinese that he felt had any risk of ruining next on's opening to china. one of them, sadly beings was support for the tibetans. it's often been said and you'll find it in a lot of the literature, that the chinese insisted that the u.s. drop its support for the tibetans in order to establish relations with the chinese. sadly, in our research, we found that there really isn't anything to document the fact that the chinese insisted on this, an on the contrary, there's plenty of information to show that it was the american side that unilaterally cut off support for the chinese. it began by demobilizing the fighters at the guerrilla base in mustang, trying to reintegrate them into civilian operations, but by 1974, it had reached the point where in order to set up f

been lower-profile than some of your predecessors, as national security advisor, particularly henry kissinger and some of the others but you are not seen in public all the time hovering next to the president. you are not seen as the gatekeeper who controls all of the foreign policy types of -- to get into see the president. do you have a different view of your job. >> i do. i think this is also a different century and i think the national security advisor runs an organization that deals from everything starting with climate change, and energy, all the way to cybersecurity, including the normal threats that we associate with the job, so it is very complex and we have economic issues we are concerned about and so i think -- >> particularly in terms of your role. >> i think... i think first of all, there is no problem with me seeing the president on any matter that he wants to discuss or i want to discuss. that is not a problem. i believe that there is a new way of doing business, to tee up the issues that are very complex, and span a huge, huge array of subjects, that each day a president has t

henry kissinger said this, a visit by the former president of the united states and married to the secretary of state will enable kim jong-il to convey to north koreans and perhaps to other countries that his country is being accepted into the and did this president just hand kim jong-il a propaganda victory? >> i don't think so. we've had this mission with the japanese, the chinese, russians, and we've had 100% support by all of these countries. the former president also asked for the release of south korean detainee and the japanese inductees, which we think would also be a great picture to achieve those unification of those families which are very concerned about. so i just think that we wanted to get those if girls out and north korea gave us a path to do that. by the way, if we haven't done that, we would be having a different conversation tonight -- today, because they would have said, well, you had an opportunity just to send the former president. >> to that point, former president clinton, he goes to kim joung ill and north korea, if you want a break through that's been so lucid to p

so my view is if you work with hemind and if you stay active and do things, henry kissinger in his eighties who hops on airplanes every day going all over the world, my current planning horizon i have told my team is to plan out about 2016 when i will be 73. i want to see at american solutions in dandridge communications and productions which are the companies we have, how we can optimize my ability to be effective and helpful over the next decade or so. i think that is as far had want to look. >> host: san clemente, you are on the air. >> caller: thank you. mr. speaker it is a pleasure to talk too you. i have a book next emmy called and never call retreat which your gracious enough to sign for me. thank you very muc 16 years ago i started a research project and was watching a show called a civil war. i was fascinated by it and for 16 years i have been doing nothing but reading civil war books. my wife thinks i am boring. i stumbled across something about stephen a. douglas. he was a vile little man who had speculated on the real estate between chicago andllinois and the west cst. because h

give it to henry kissinger. i think jimmy . . . here are my two questions.please do not evade them again to what branch of the military did you ever served, and what is your party affiliation? since you said you are evangelical, i am pretty sure you are one of the neocons. i am enjoying your book our this month. i hope to continue this. guest: i served in the army, i guest: i served in the army, i was a the army. i was not in thethe vietnam, but i served in a hospital in korea. i was horrified when i came back from korea because people were spitting on me and calling@@@@@ honestly, and embarrass republican. i do not agree but a lot of the positions that have been taken in the last few years within the republican party. questions. host: you write in the book about@@@@@@@@"" the truth is that the entire nightmare can be traced back to the liberal democratic policies and the old rural liberal left this -- leftist, jimmy carter. but wasn't it president bush's decision to go into iraq and afghanistan not based on carter policies, but based on the attacks of 9/11?

it was the henry kissingers, the donald rumsfelds, who were also very involved in all of this. i think that as one of the callers pointed out, we don't say enough about how our government, our administrations have gone astray. guest: i think the last word, it's interesting to me, steve, that the callers show that the range of emotions -- emotions of the nixon presidency still exist. people can get pretty uptight about it. host: john mashek, stuart loory, thank you for being here on the 35th anniversary of richard nixon's resignation from the presidency. >> tomorrow on "washington journal," patrick kilbride discusses trade relations between the u.s., mexico, and canada. keith epstein talks about why health insurers are winning. brad sherman examines the u.s. policy toward afghanistan and pakistan. alexandra and philippe cuse toe discuss planet green's blue august special, examining the sustainability of the world's oceans. that's on "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern. beginning tuesday, august 11, washington journal will hear from four mayors about how the economy i

henry kissinger was across from me. and arms control experts were around us.everybody in the conversation. we were talking about a complicated arms control agreement. this discussion was going on, and all the sudden he looked at me and said, well, joe, what do the young people think about this? i did not know what to say, i did not want to make a fool of me. i reached over and pick an object up of the coffee table. i was nervous, and i was flipping it back and forth as i answered the question. i noticed everyone stiffened up when i was talking. the butler came in and said, time for dinner. everybody immediately got up and bolted for the dinner table. your debt grab, arm and said, put that thing down. that cost more than your house. i was flipping a faberge egg and my hands. the sophisticated kid from delaware -- [laughter] it seemed like every single thing i did, he was there. when my character was under attack, he said maybe i should not chair this committee until -- i said maybe i should not chair this committee until it gets settled. he said, you say -- you

c-span: but you do say that you don't remember ever criticizing henry kissinger in a column. >> guest: no, i criticized how lot. in the book as i criticized him that rowlie never criticized him so we had attention on that, but i was highly critical of henry. all the criticism in the column of henry was from me and not from rowlie. these little things were more complicated because we were a partnership and we had to kind of part in these things out on how it would come out in the column. c-span: and he said that bald heldman, chief of staff to richard nixon was treated more harshly because he refused to contact you, he refused to talk with you. brian >> guest: i think yes. probably justifiably he deserved it. c-span: are you going to get criticized in your opinion do you think by the journalism community for this kind of? >> guest: yes. c-span: for edmonton all of this? >> guest: i think so. journalists are not supposed to tell these things and how journalists really function. c-span: you talk about your partner on crossfire from time to time, tom gradin. you talk about his wife and he

there is across party group in the united states of america with henry kissinger and others who will be proposing that this is the final destination of a defense and security policy. with the nonproliferation treaty did, and what we are now proposing with this document, the road to 2010, was to imagine things. it is said that we should give -- was at two things. we should do so by them relinquishing or surrendering the idea that they would ever have nuclear weapons, but we would in return help them get civil nuclear power. what is said was that the nuclear states themselves would seek to reduce their nuclear weapons. this is still, in my view, the nature of a bargain, a covenant between states and the world, that as we renew the non- proliferation treaty, we get an understanding that in return for relinquishing nuclear weapons, including iran and other countries, relinquishing the possibility of having nuclear weapons or having them secretly, we will say will make it possible for you to get access to facilities that will need to be there. we will do it on the conditions that it is sa

and, henry kissinger said as he was the chief advisor for nixon, and others, that he thought his job was to negotiate the best -- second best place he could for the united states of america. because, these people believed that the totalitarian government was more efficient and could get things done better and could produce better. well, now we know that is not so. it is the free market that produces better. better things, more inventions. better quality of everything. and of course, in the years after ronald reagan failed to get the nomination in 1976, he and others were traveling the country, talking to little groups, redefining their conservative image. and he had a different view. he thought when it comes to dealing with the soviet union, he had another message. we win, they lose. and he made it work. and so -- [applause]. >> -- despite our belief that we couldn't win, we did win. it was a shock to a lot of us in 1980 when ronald reagan actually won and the same thing happened after clinton won in 1992. we couldn't believe it. and two years later we came back and had the biggest r

it was the henry kissinger, on drums filled --donald rumsfeld, and others who were very involved in this say enough about how our government, administrations have gone astray. guest: it is interesting to me it bet callers shows the range of emotions of the nixon presidency and follow that still exists. people can get pretty uptight about it. host: thank you both for being here on the 35th anniversary of richard nixon's resignation from the presidency. tomorrow we will speak with patrick of the u.s. chamber of commerce about the trade summit in mexico. epsetin will also be here, a business week correspondent, and covers the health care story. reprep. brad sherman will also join us. our last two guess will talk about the plangreen show. they will talk about the world's water supply. thank you to you all. enjoy the rest of your sunday. ♪ [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] ♪

i never got -- >> you say you do not remember criticizing henry kissinger. >> no, i criticized him a ad a lot of tension. but i was highly critical of henry. and all of that criticism of henry was for vietnam, primarily. but we had to bargain these things out on how it would come out of the column. >> are you going to be criticized by the journalism committee? >> journalists are not supposed to tell these things. >> you talk about your partner, tom britain, about his wife and her relationship with robert mcnamara. what was the same -- saying? >> he was let go without notice. >> but we are in a different business now. you are in a commercial business. how did they treat you? >> they fired me after my argument with james carville. but i was ready to quit. i did not want to work for them, and they did not want to, so they let me go. but really, i did not have any programs left. the programs i had, "crossfire," "inside politics," they were all cancelled, so i was making a lot of money and doing very little i knew my days were numbered there before james carville. >> what age were you when

apparatus in this country was convinced that the soviet union would be the great superpower and henry kissingeraid one as the chief adviser for nixon and others that he thought his job was to negotiate the best second best place he could put the u.s. the has and these people believed the totalitarian government was more efficient, and get things done better and could produce better well, now i know that is not so. it is the free market that produces better. better things, more conventions from a better quality of everything. and, of course, in the years after ronald reagan failed to get the nomination in 1976 he and others were traveling the country talking to little groups, redefine in their conservative image. in and he had a different view. he thought when it comes to dealing with the soviet union he had another message. we win, they lose and he made it work. [applause] and so despite our beliefs that we cannot win he did win, it was a big shock to a lot of us in 1980 when ronald reagan actually wind and then the same thing happened after clinton won in 1992. we cannot believe it feared a tw

you don't see the stature of a henry kissinger. you see dancing.t juxtaposition i think makes it difficult in the long run. >> give her some time. she's only been in office a few months. we'll see how she does as she compares with john foster dull lus. >> i've danced with hillary. she's a great dancer. she can cut a rug. >> when he went in that diplomat iqbal room at the state department, he wowed everyone. >> there you go. there you go. >> where should michael jackson be buried? the king of pop's brother jermaine jackson talks about his wishes and draws some comparisons to elvis presley. >>> and retired u.s. general tony zinny, the former commander of the u.s. military central command talks about fighting the taliban, but he also was supposed to become the u.s. ambassador to iraq. what happened? >> i kind of feel like charlie brown. >>> a u.s. missile strike is believed to have killed a top commander in pakistan. baitullah mesud is suspected of having a role in the assassination of benazir bhutto. what would his death mean for al qaeda and the tal

henry kissinger said, he was the chief advisor for nixon and others, that he thought his job was to negotiate the second-best place we could for the united states of america because these people believed the totalitarian government was more efficient, could get things done better and could produce better. well, now we know that's not so. it's the free market that produces better. better things, more inventions. better quality of everything. and of course, in the years after ronald reagan failed to get the nomination in 1976, he and others were traveling the country talking to little groups, redefining their conservative image, and he had a different view. he thought when it comes to dealing with the soviet union, he had another message. we win, they lose. and he made it work. and so -- [applause] despite our belief that we couldn't win, he did win. it was a big shock to a lot of us in 1980 when ronald reagan actually won. then the same thing happened after clinton won in 1992. we couldn't believe it. two years later we came back and had the biggest republican victory in, i think it was 40 yea

as has john mccain and lindsey graham, james baker, henry kissinger and condoleezza rice. admiral mike molen and general petraeus have called for us to close guantanamo. as long as it's open, it's a recruiting tool for terrorists around the world. it's time to turn the page and acknowledge history. we have successfully prosecuted and incarcerated terrorists in the united states much more succe successfully than any military commission in guantanamo. thank you.

henry kissinger was across from me. and arms control experts were around us.ude everybody in the conversation. we were talking about a complicated arms control agreement. this discussion was going on, and all the sudden he looked at me and said, well, joe, what do the young people think about this? i did not know what to say, i did not want to make a fool of me. i reached over and pick an object up of the coffee table. i was nervous, and i was flipping it back and forth as i answered the question. i noticed everyone stiffened up when i was talking. the butler came in and said, time for dinner. everybody immediately got up and bolted for the dinner table. your debt grab, arm and said, put that thing down. that cost more than your house. i was flipping a faberge egg and my hands. the sophisticated kid from delaware -- [laughter] it seemed like every single thing i did, he was there. when my character was under attack, he said maybe i should not chair this committee until -- i said maybe i should not chair this committee until it gets settled. he said, you say --

but he is right about the nobel peace prize not being that important, because they give it to henry kissingernk jimmy carter was an honorable man. here are my two questions. please do not evade them again to what branch of the military did you ever served, and what is your party affiliation? since you said you are evangelical, i am pretty sure you are one of the neocons. i am enjoying your book our this month. i hope to continue this. guest: i served in the army, i was a medic in the army. i was not in thethe vietnam, but i served in a hospital in korea. i was horrified when i came back from korea because people were spitting on me and calling me a baby killer. that is the military i served in. politically, i am a republican. honestly, and embarrassed republican but i don't agree with a lot of the positions that have been taken by the republican party. i hope i answered your questions. host: you write in the book about the war in iraq. "while the liberal left in america at screams about the mess in iraq and the war on terror have been caused by the republican presidency of george w. bush, the

henry kissinger said the classic government memo is option three. option one all-out nuclear war.ake option three, somewhere in between. you compromise of that's what we're doing in afghanistan. we're ruling out massive buildup, rule out doing nothing, we do the third option. incremental. it can get you in a little more trouble, a little more. >> who is the strong hand in the white house now? i know there are a lot of people over there that are very good at what they do. i don't see the strong hand in the white house. the james baker iii, clark clifford that goes to the president and says this is what we need to do. >> it's not clear it's there right now. you don't have a lot of people there that have executive branch experience. you're talking about amalgam of domestic security with policy with gold old-fashioned governing issues. it's not clear it's come together this. administration is still young. i'd be surprised if you didn't see changes in personnel or procedures or both. >> let's go to must read op-eds and start with the "washington post." just a great newspaper. a great e

remember he nixon resigned and submitted the letter to the henry kiss -- kissinger. a couple of electronic notes there, the federal register mandated by congress was in 1994. we put the entire code of federal regulations online in 1997, but began updating it daily in 2001. and we began authenticating laws in 2007. we're very proud of the fact that we inaugurateed on inauguration day the presidential documents which replaced the old pamphlet version that was basically in print. the daily compilation posted the president's president within two hours after the inauguration. and we now update it every day. this is the official publication of the presidential remarks. and other official documents that are in the federal register itself. a little bit -- a word about technology, we're switching the entire platform of the laws, regular lace -- regulations to a new system falled the federal digitsal system. we hope in the next couple of years to embrace all the social networking tools and things like rssv to notify the public in changes of the regular laces -- regulations and

onow the actual fighting on the border could escalate and there is the soviet proposals asking henry kissingerll, what if the soviet union decides to destroy china's's and emerging ki blease? how would in response? you don't want to get in that kind of scenario because the consequences. so, it would perhaps make them like differently but it's not a direct security threat at present. china itself is going to present security problems as it continues to evolve economically and militarily. how the russians plan that will be a factor but it's not the main factor. the main factor is the chinese-americans -- i still think have different visions where they nt to see the world evolves and you e that now over sovereignty and the south china sea. again the chi have the united states often worked out and it's not clear the chinese will become a major security threat to the united states but insofar as the econo to strengthen and dhat gives military potential it is a latent potential that could become a problem and how russia plays into that will be a factor but not a major factor. >> we have time for one

don't get me wrong, henry kissinger said even paranoia has real enemies so in the country seized by paranoia face real dangers and communism certaly was a danger to the united states then enter the rest of the free wor, so called. and, of as terrorism is today, but the problem with paranoia is that sometimes politicians use these fears and concerns and exploit, the play upon them and that distorts the danger, so what we don't wind up instead of facing and resulting in keeping the nation se, tense sometimes to make things worse. that is what happened during the era of mccarthyism, with the red scare, and that is what i feel has happened more recently in the last few years withhe so-called war on terrorism, which george w. bush and the so-called fkans, led by richard cheney-- these folks h fanned fears and irrational concerns in the same way the disturbing thing about this is the media too often goes along with deb and exacerbates it, so that is one of the main points i wanted to make in the book, andhere was another, and that has to do with the importance of television and the impact it has h

apparatus in this country was convinced that the soviet union would be the great superpower and henry kissingerd one as the chief adviser for nixon and others that he thought his job was to negotiate the best second best place he could put the u.s. the has and these people believed the totalitarian government was more efficient, and get things done better and could produce better well, now i know that is not so. it is the free market that produces better. better things, more conventions from a better quality of everything. and, of course, in the years after ronald reagan failed to get the nomination in 1976 he and others were traveling the country talking to little groups, redefine in their conservative image. in and he had a different view. he thought when it comes to dealing with the soviet union he had another message. we win, they lose and he made it work. [applause] and so despite our beliefs that we cannot win he did win, it was a big shock to a lot of us in 1980 when ronald reagan actually wind and then the same thing happened after clinton won in 1992. we cannot believe it feared a two

apparatus in this country was convinced that the soviet union would be the great superpower and henry kissingerief adviser for nixon and others that he thought his job was to negotiate the best second best place he could put the u.s. the has and these people believed the totalitarian government was more efficient, and get things done better and could produce better well, now i know that is not so. it is the free market that produces better. better things, more conventions from a better quality of everything. and, of course, in the years after ronald reagan failed to get the nomination in 1976 he and others were traveling the country talking to little groups, redefine in their conservative image. in and he had a different view. he thought when it comes to dealing with the soviet union he had another message. we win, they lose and he made it work. [applause] and so despite our beliefs that we cannot win he did win, it was a big shock to a lot of us in 1980 when ronald reagan actually wind and then the same thing happened after clinton won in 1992. we cannot believe it feared a two years later we