i was talking to henry kissinger on the phone. i suppose nixon describes me as an unreliable intellectual who doesn't stick to his points of view and wants to change his views at the last minute. i said henry, have you been bugging the sessions clerks he said no, david, i just know my boy. i just know my boy. and the postscript that was that henry is fine was that he would take the line of saying president nixon was a great president. but perhaps his greatest quality was his ability to delegate and all the really important things he delegated to me. that sort of not quite as blatant, but that's sort of of was his way of getting the credit. >> host: and the play and soon to be the movie, there is a dramatic tension. one gets is sent to your team primarily, but to some sense you are disappointed in the first two interviews. and in fact, there's a question of whether this whole thing will be a failure or success until the watergate interview. to what extent is that true? >> guest: well, it is exaggerated. the first thing is i agree wi

eck and decisive and with bush it would have been he was a war criminal and back to the days of henry kissinger targeting village. >> remember when george w. bush made the dead or alive comment about osama bin laden just days after the 9/11 attacks and he was la mbasted. >> they did the same thing with ronald reagan. a cowboy. the new york times which almost never finds anything to criticize this president about in the lead editorial on thursday said that his ability to decide like cesar thumbs up or thumbs down on the coliseum is too much power for a president. so at least we know according to the new york times where the line is with this president for too much power. >> does this kind of leak,. >> doug: did i, have any effect on national -- does this kind

i want to go back to one of the other questions that was asked, about henry kissinger, i mean, he's one of the most recognized people on the planet. donald rumsfeld, we had an issue a couple of years ago where he was going through and patted down. i think the thing thatting a a aggravates the public about that is, if we are truly moving to a threat or risk-based perspective of how we do this job, why are we patting down donald rumsfeld? i mean, a supervisor should have had the discretion to say, i don't think we have to worry about him. i think that's why it winds up on tv. there's not the degree of professionalism that we want. and, you know, i am concerned about the fact that apparently schumervisor s don't have more discretion. i would like to see the department get much more aggressive about finding the money out of hide, my preference is by downsizing to put more supervisors through training, so, they have a lot more professionalism and more discretion. >> i agree completely with you on that. we need to empower or front line people, particularly the supervisors. that's why we start

if you're henry kissinger, you can just call your book "on china." [laughter] you know, they'll buy it. i have to sort of dance like a french poodle on my -- [laughter] they eat puppies, don't they? but sun xiu copied this interesting -- coined this interesting term spelled shi, and it's tricky to translate, but it means roughly the art of understanding matters in flux. so there is -- and shi happens. [laughter] get it? [laughter] indeed, i am -- there is a lot of shi in this book and the author is, indeed, full of shi. so why don't i sort of leave it there. i would tell you more about the book, but then you would, you would -- what incentive would you have? and i think, mike, we should mention the new study that just came out yesterday, possibly you haven't heard of it, but a very scientific study that shows that people who pay full retail price for books derive 67% more enjoyment. [laughter] it was very scientifically conducted by the authors' guild. [laughter] so anyway, full retail price, and i thank you for having me back, and i'd be happy to ta

[laughter] your henry kissinger you can just call your book on china. they will buy it. [laughter] but this term as but term called that means roughly the art of understanding the masters in flocks. shi happens. and there is a lot y / we've been there? there would tell you more but then what incentive would you have? also to mention the new study that just came out to mr. delaware, very scientific that shows people who pay full retail price. [laughter] he was very sad to evict and conducted by the authors guild. i believe to entertain questions on the greatness odd charlie peters. [applause] but only one. >> we have time for questions but you need to come to the microphone. >> i can and asked myself the question. charlie how have you been? [laughter] [inaudible] charlie peters founding editor asks what has happened to liberal republicans? and why? is this a trick question? i was saddened to see richard lugar was defeated. he was mayor of indianapolis and defeated in a prairie contest by the candidate of the tea party. so what seems or the electorate went to the heart rat

. >> the tsa recently removed henry kissinger from his wheelchair in order to frisk him. oes that prove that it's overh tsa? >> i think henry probably enjoyed being treated like an i tsa and thanks in part to his efforts, rarely do you wait more than 10 minutes some they've gotten it down. it seems like a bizarre system, but i don't know which of the the same -- safeguards i would remove. >> it is primitive. primitive! >> yeah, well, it's -- >> let's do it at least the way the israelis do it. and think of the problems in the israelis' would have -- >> three don't have nearly the number of planes we have! [overlapping speakers] >> it has been trouble-free, the moment you have someone inappropriately profiled -- [overlapping speakers] >> bring down the pleas and planes and it comes back. the israelis don't have one- tenth the passengers we do! >> what the israelis is doing makes sense to me, pat. we'll be right back with predictions. >>> prediction, governor scott walker of wisconsin will be recalled. yes or no? >> no way. he's home free! >> yes, but that 25 million dollars

former secretaries of state henry kissinger, george schultz, james baker, colin powell, and condoleezza rice recently wrote an op-ped driving this point home. i just want to quote it. some say it's good enough to protect our navigational interests through customary international law and if that approach fails, then we can use force or threaten to do so. but customary law is vague and doesn't provide a strong foundation for critical national security rights. what's more, the use of force can be risky and costly. joining the convention would put our vital rights on a firmer legal basis. gaining legal certainty and legitimacy as we operate in the world's largest international zone. i would call everybody's attention to a full-page advertisement in today's "wall street journal." featuring the five secretaries, all of whom cite these reasons for why they believe we should ratify this treaty. the bottom line is this. do we really want to entrust our national security to an unwritten set of rules? where our security would be enhanced by having clarity ahead of time. is there any other area in

because when i attended the funeral of gerald ford, henry kissinger got up and told the following story. that about two weeks after gerald ford became president and everyone remembers the doubts about ford's capacities at that time, he recounts kissinger recounted that a russian seaman jumped off a boat in baltimore harbor and sought political asylum and kissinger recounted a meeting he attended in which they went around the table and all the foreign policy experts all realists, including kissinger, advised ford to return him to the russians. and then when they got to ford, the president, he said, are you kidding me? this is america. this is america. we're not going to do that. now -- by the way, kissinger told this as proof of what a great president ford was for rejecting his advice. [ laughter ] now, i take this as a pivot moment because it also coincided with legislative activity and what led to drl, et cetera. but i think this continues to be very much on the forefront much our thinking. we mentioned the chen case. there's a question, what do we do with this person seeking our suppo

accord with the vietnamese with north vietnam in january of 1972, he went -- he doesn't call henry kissinger first. he calls pat nixon and says, pat, listen to this and recites it. she says, oh, dick, i'm so thrilled. it's a lovely husband-wife conversation. like coming home from the office and here's what they talk about, but he is calling from the office. same thing with the daughters. it's a lovely father-daughter relationship. >> i'm trying to take that assessment through this process as well. >> i just want to make something clear. the senate watergate committee never called anyone and took the fifth. they took the fifth and either gave them immunity and called them or we did not give immunity and did not call them. >> did not embarrass them like mccarthy did. >> you have the right to take the fifth. you don't have to take it publicly. we never called anyone who took the fifth. >> question over here. yes. >> i've often wondered how mark felt was able to get so much information and leak it. >> the question is how can mark felt get so much information in detail? well, i'll tell you what s

henry kissinger, year ago today, was on the stage. eighty-two years of age, participating in his first public debate. eloquently arguing against china owning the 21st century. just a matter of months ago, larry summers and paul taubman went head-to-head in the future of the north american

one of the things did he is he prayed with henry kissinger. there were more hours and, you know, maybe he went wandering. who knows? >> now 40 years later, peck are talking about the leaks in the white house. how do you feel about that? >> it's important to not get at reporters sources and to haul report nears court. more often than not the claim that national security has been violated by newspaper or the press as ben bradley said many, many years ago. it's almost always bogus. at the same time, people in government take an oath that they are not going to disclose national security information. and you can have a legitimate jury, it seems to me. but you have to be very, very careful that this does not turn into something that's totally unjustified. president obama the other day made a statement that his white house is not responsible for leaking national security information. and it seems to me that he's going to have to find out if what he said is really true. >> "the new york times" is concerned that people will assume that somehow this inf

henry kissinger didn't have a clue. john ehrlichman didn't have a clue. rosemary woods did not have a clue. we just didn't run around talking about it. and -- well, you know. i think i'm right about that. i don't know. >> scott had a footnote for that. >> the footnote in general, because i made all of these insulting remarks about the process of legal inquiry being a good road to the truth. the fact of the matter is, the people had forgotten this. the cover-up worked. nixon had to resign. i mean, ultimately the tapes did him in that came out. but to this day, very few people know the extent to which we had established what is called the hughes theory, a wealthy person named howard hughes had given $100,000 to rebozo, the president's best friend, and this is the heart of what watergate was about. tracking it further, what you also don't remember is he also gave it to hubert humphrey. the democrat. we had hearings prepared on this we were going to have in cement september. one day, saturday on my way into the office late, 9:00 a.m., on the news they announc

got a peace accord with the vietnamese, with north vietnam, in january of '72, he doesn't call henry kissinger first, he calls pat nixon and says, pat, listen to this, and recites it. she says, oh, dick, i'm so thrilled. it's a lovely husband/wife conversation, like coming home from the off and here is what they talk about but he's calling from the office. same thing with the daughters, it's a lovely father/daughter relationship. it's a shame because we have a view of nixon that some of this stuff changes my views of him that -- this is a much more multidimensional character than who i thought was just simply a corrupt man that i had finally discovered, so i'm trying to take that assessment as i go through this process as well. question? now we got one. >> i just want to make something clear, the senate watergate committee never called anyone publicly who took the fifth. if they took the fifth we gave them immunity and called them or we did not give them immunity and did not call them. >> did not embarrass them. >> you have the right to take the fifth. you don't have to take it publicly. we ne

believe that i mean i know very very many senior republicans including george shultz including henry kissinger who is of you cannot believe that so we should say so and i don't it's just an election read through what. i don't quite understand and i know that and to take an analogy there were russian to better understand that during the putin's presidential campaign he seemed to be posing the united states as a threat to russia which i don't believe and i'm not there and. so i don't know people say in campaigns sometimes take extreme statements. but i do not believe that's going to be a big issue in this campaign. i do believe will be a difference in that whether through romney or obama in terms of how u.s. russia relations develop and i'm inclined to believe that it would develop a more positive vein and a bomb and then under romney said well this is very important so you think the russians i mean the kremlin russian diplomats the foreign office should vote for about it's no easier for them yet right to deal with event then with really if he's if he's elected and i think and i can in any count

the reason that's worth stating as you have, if you were interviewing henry kissinger and others 40 years ago, they might have said as china prospers it will become more democratic. maybe kissinger wouldn't have said that but a lot would. it's not true. it has not become more democratic. >> rose: because the politicians are scared of losing control. >> yes, and people do have a better life there, compared when you and i first visited there in the 70 70s and 80s, it's a lot better place and more liberal, too. they didn't have to democracize to become this rich, but to get the next step of become actually rich do they have to become more liberal? >> rose: here is the question i would love to know the answer to. there is a standing committee for the politburo, eight, 10, people who rule china. i wonder if they have a conversation saying around the table they say, "look, we know we want to change our economy. we want to have all these-- we have aspirations to do this, to be this kind of economic power. and we also know that we have to change-- how far can we go because we want to liberalize b

like henry kissinger, somebody with that kind of power. but, we have to be a little careful before we make too much of the possession of jews in the south. remember, in many areas of the south, whites were a minority. whenever you have a white man in charleston, whenever you have a white minority, jews are going to be excepted because the white minority is interested in taking every paleface to their side. in a sense, the lines are racial rather than religious, and so long as jews don't rock the boat and go along with the values of the minority groups, they can gain acceptance. while i think it is true that in areas of the south, jews did win more exceptions than they did in the north, it is rather important to remember the context under which that happened, which is not altogether pretty, and that makes the story looks a little bit different. but it is worth remembering that the vast majority of jews were in the north, probably -- there are 150,000 jews at that time, 120,000 or so minorities -- only about 30,000 in the south. >> in the in

who do i call when i want to call europe was henry kissinger's famous question. finally the answer came, barronness ashton. nobody's ever heard of her nor have they ever heard from her. ladies and gentlemen, you are canadians. you know how hard it is to run a federal system with just 10 provinces and only two languages. that's why you will understand readily than most why the european experiment with 27 provinces and a staggering 23 languages have ended in failure. thankfully here in canada i only have to use two or maybe three words now. thank you. merci. [applause] >> strong start to the debate from the pro side. i can see daniel literally ready to grab his podium in response. sir, you're up. >> goonk. -- good evening. i can say only in english. you know, i had to calm myself. i never heard such stupid thing. and i will tell you why. i'm born in 1945. my parents flew from germ in 1933. my father was a lawyer. he should have been arrested. and then they head to south france because they were jew. my mother and my father. i am born after the landing of the troops

. >> i would say reed henry kissinger. my apologies to his last name.h have spoken out and written of late on things such as national interests. balance of power and not acting a great power should act emotionally and some jump in. we condemned it and there is still a lot of diplomacy to be done and the president will meet with president putin of russia. russia has a very, very important role and have influence. it's a member of the security council. it blocked tougher measures at the u.s. and that they would like to take. >> russia is flatly rejecting this and they should involve iran. should iran talk on the table in. >> it's something that i didn't hear come up until today. there was a column in the "washington post" by a columnist indicating that kofi annan put forward this idea and now maybe not so coincidentally the foreign minster is suggesting the same thing. iran, turkey, saudi arabia, the five permanent members of the council and maybe the eu are touted as a contact group. they want to get away from the friends of western coninstruct and move

can you imagine, he said henry kissinger, or madeleine albright being this absent from a major crisis have an interest in toppling the government and ally of the greatest threat to us and the region, iran? this veteran was appalled by our sort of doing nothing. the other one is also somewhat appalled but he said look, in getting nato involved is very important. he's not just speaking as prime minister of turkey. that was the nato secretary-general we saw there. nato is the entity that ultimately intervened in libya and intervened in the balkans and this fellow thinks it's quite possible in a month or six weeks we i'll have a nato intervention in syria that will follow from what charles described for now, securing the border. and that we could end up with assad being gone quickly. i have no idea whether we're feckless and pathetic or southerly working with the nato allies to get rid of assad. >> suddenly we're making him the proxy in the region, maggot region. he's not reliable ally. it could be a problem in the future. >> that is it for the panel. stay tuned for the continuing search

. >> this is really the equivalent, i think this is the internet analog of henry kissinger inviting kanyefor lunch. basically what happened is drake, who is a hip hop r & b sensation tweeted out the first million is the hardest to make. t. boone pickens, a very wealthy businessman retweeted and said actually the first billion is a lot harder. this led to a little back and forth. the internet is a place where a wind energy proponent multi-millionaire megabucks guy like t. boone pickens is somehow following drake which is again -- >> i love that. t. boone pickens. that's huge. who knew? >> he leaves no stone untouched. >> i wish slim pickens were still here. and then everyone is waiting for the release of the new iphone. it appears some pictures got leaked yes. anything related to apple creates a sensation and a frenzy. these are we must say unconfirmed photos of the iphone 5 but of course they set off a frenzy online. it is from 9:00 to 5:00 back and it shows the back and the front of what may be the iphone 5 which has a much bigger metallic back. there are other features i think, a new ea

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henry kissinger is listening to all of it. >> bob: we are going to listen to more of it with you whencome back. more in the next half hour, back in a moment with personal thoughts of my own about watergate story. >> whether or not the president is a crook. i'm not a crook. in florida we had more suntans... watergate break in came to light i had slightly different take than woodward and bernstein. i tried to get out of town before i got assigned to the story. the reason was, my boss, bill small, had just assigned me as part of the cbs team covering the democratic and republican convention, both of which were being held in miami. the 'sanement i had dreamed of all my life. but i was still fairly junior in the washington bureau and i had the sinking feeling that small would pull me off the convention and assign me to the break in, the story that made absolutely no sense. why would anyone break in to a political headquarters? what secrets could possibly be found there? that's where you kept the yard signs and such. someone said it was just a bunch of crazy. why would anyone especially as

henry kissinger, as he and i discussed when you interviewed us, said he couldn't get over the fact that, you know, i wasn't fighting with, you know, the national security adviser or the secretary of defense or, you know, you name it. so you do have to not only work hard to make sure that the relationship with the president is positive and strong and perceived as such, but also to make sure that the whole team functions because you don't want a lot of wasted time and energy. i mean, the world is moving too fast. there's so much going on, and you have to be given the level of trust and confidence that enable you to go out there and make these decisions. un, we were talkin talk before e campaign out about what i had to do in china a month ago with negotiating once, negotiating twice on the blind lawyer disdepartment, and you have to have people back in washington who when the inevitable second-guessing and all the rest of it goes on can say, look, you know, we're going to see this through and it's going to be okay. we're just going to make sure we're on the same path together. and that hap

one was when henry kissinger was visiting the people's republic of china, reagan traveled add -- as governorof california to taiwan and other asian capitals to assure them that the nixon administration remained committed to friendship. the list goes on and during those years as governor he really began to build an international profile. none of that would have come forward if mrs. reagan hadn't entrusted to us the letters and all the documents we've used in the last couple of years and at least for me it was taking a big chance because you don't know me that well, exempt through secretary schultz, and i thank you -- except through secretary schultz, abandon i thank you very much. >> here is the first question for the panel. what do these letters reveal about the man? art, why don't you take a stab. >> i think a lot of it's been said. i think one of the things that surprised me the most. i know i worked with him and traveled with him for almost four years -- we didn't realize the extent to which he was working when we all thought he was sleeping or watching television or something like that.