this is not the first book on henry kissinger. there are a lot of books on kissinger by kissinger and a lot of other books on kissinger by by other authors. why why did you take the deep journey of writing this book? what did you see to discover? that was new? and what did you come out with that that really you felt was different and you and that people need to do to know about over to you thank you very much. paul and let me congratulate mei on its 75th anniversary. you don't know this, but the first time i came to washington as a graduate student doing research the first place i went to was the middle east institute's library there on end streets. so i've watched it grow and and thrive and it's wonderful to see under your directorship how well it's doing now, and i'm very honored to have the opportunity to participated in this discussion with mei as the host. so thank you very much. why write another book on kissinger? well, you're absolutely right. they've been plenty written. but there hasn't been a book written about his middl

this is not the first book on henry kissinger. there are a lot of books on kissinger by kissinger and a lot of other books on kissinger by by other authors. why why did you take the deep journey of writing this book? what did you see to discover? that was new? and what did you come out with that that really you felt was different and you and that people need to do to know about over to you thank you very much. paul and let me congratulate mei on its 75th anniversary. you don't know this, but the first time i came to washington as a graduate student doing research the first place i went to was the middle east institute's library there on end streets. so i've watched it grow and and thrive and it's wonderful to see under your directorship how well it's doing now, and i'm very honored to have the opportunity to participated in this discussion with mei as the host. so thank you very much. why write another book on kissinger? well, you're absolutely right. they've been plenty written. but there hasn't been a book written about his middl

yeah, so i want to make clear that i'm not speaking for henry kissinger. i understand that i accidentally no in the sense that i haven't talked to him in detail about about how he would deal with the current situation my conversations were about very dealt with the situation back then because that's what i was focused on in the book. but if i try to apply disengerian principles. to the current situation, i would say first of all. that in terms of the non-state actors. he had no time for you know unless they were going to become a state. then they could fit into the west failure in order as you refer to it. but as non-state actors, they needed to be vanquished pure and simple they represented a threat to the state system. and and therefore they needed to be conquered. by the great powers in the system now the palestinians there's different story because they gain, the right to self-determination and gain that recognition. from the international community and from israel and from the united states and so from his point of view the question was how to to deve

actually, henry kissinger said that, and i'm not usual to de quoting henry kissinger, david your thoughts the. the problem of course, is that the more right wing outlets in the u. s. corporate media are already screaming for actual hot war between the us and russia. and the rest of the us media has been known to follow the more right wing us media, and the u. s. permit has been known to follow the mainstream corporate u. s. media. so this is a danger. i mean, i know people in ukraine who think of a, despite the situation being on russia's border, not the u. s. a think of russia and the u. s. as, as equally horrible menaces in this, but they don't think either side really wants war. they think nato wants ukrainian nato, but not to actually join in any ukraine wars as article 5 would require. and they think russia wants nato out of ukraine, but doesn't actually want another afghanistan war or, or any sort of occupation. and so everybody wants a neutral ukraine, but nobody wants to say it and nobody wants to act to make it happen. and so things may spiral out of control in a way that very fe

which might be true if your henry kissinger. my friend moynihan what once rather rudely said read more books while in the senate the most of his colleagues read. proof that wasn't so. pat kept writing and producing serious books, but the trick in life in washington, really everywhere but particularly here, is to keep your intellectual capital restocked. >> host: said this is a booktv what have impacted you the most? >> guest: gosh. i mean,. >> host: recently he reach of many. there's probably some the pop up in recent memory. >> guest: i i just wrote a biography of john c. calhoun. >> host: okay. >> guest: very bright man, very bad man. >> host: that's a bad, nation. >> guest: a commendation but it's true. he was a very sinewy mind, good thinker and a terrible -- but white supremacy. >> host: speaking of the bad causes, this column he wrote in 2018 about visiting the holocaust museum here in washington, another place you can go to learn, it's hard to go there to learn about it. obviously you with an the column is called into ete

. -- martin spoke about henry kissinger so it is not something particularly new. it is also something we deal with. if we find ways to work with russia, which we can, we have tremendous differences. that is something that is not going to change. i do not see interview our -- i do not see any of our partners saying "the chinese will have our backs." miller: on a security issue, i think you are right. it will be conventional in the region if we weren't deep priority. last question, we are actually out of time. looking out at 2022, brett, what is the single most important issue that keeps you up at night? is there one more than any other? mcgurk: i am inclined to give jim madison's answer, it is our job to keep others up at night. i will say the safety of security of our armed personnel. i have stayed a lot of time. diplo cap -- diplomatic personnel. our first read in the morning is to make sure people have what they need to defend themselves and protect themselves. that is really fundamental to live by. in the prospect of a nuclear armed -- is something i can assure

and that's the kind of thing that people like henry kissinger.ther said i'm going to invest based on those statements i think that's where it when the government stepped in. it was just a blatant falsity and an ethical conduct. >> how much time do you expect her to spend in federal prison. >> well, i think it's definitely a prison case because of the enormity of the loss. but she did was successful on 7 of these charges. i think the government is going to wait till after mister baldwin is trial to decide whether they tried are on the on the counts that were not were hung jury. but miss holmes has no record. she's someone the defense will portray is is trying to do the right thing. and i think it will be a tough decision. but i do see this is because of the enormity of the federal prison sentence as opposed to something like house arrest. >> all right. well, we have run out of time. but all really good point. and and thanks for walking us through this. this very and fascinating case. our legal analyst stephen clark. >> all right. other news now an

henry kissinger and george sholtes were sufficiently beguiled by homes as blandishments to join the company's board of directors. but it was all a fake. the blood testing machines, homes promise never worked. investigative journalists and prosecutors began poking holes in her claims. eventually the whole enterprise toppled like a house of cards. there are nos closed down in 2018. prosecutors argued homes performed fake demonstrations falsified reports and made misleading claims. the 37 year old homes testified in her own defense, blaming everything on her ex boyfriend, co defendant and former thoroughness executive, ramesh bonnie. but in the end, unlike so many before the jury wasn't buying it, homes faces a maximum of 20 years in prison for each count. she is expected to appeal grub reynolds al jazeera los angeles. our suspect in a fire at south africa's paula buildings expected in court. later on tuesday, it started on sunday at the back of a complex that houses the old assembly chamber firefighters had declared it under control, but the flames flat up again on they jenny and wolf has mo, f

henry kissinger. and george sholtes were sufficiently beguiled by homes as blandishments to join the company's board of directors. but it was all a fake. the blood testing machines, homes promise never worked. investigative journalists and prosecutors began poking holes in her claims. eventually the whole enterprise toppled like a house of cards. there are nos closed down in 2018. prosecutors argued holes performed sake demonstrations falsified reports and made misleading claims. the 37 year old holmes testified in her own defense, blaming everything on her ex boyfriend, co, defendant and former thoroughness executive, ramesh bonnie. but in the end, unlike so many before the jury wasn't buying it, homes faces a maximum of 20 years in prison for each count. she is expected to appeal. grub reynolds al jazeera was angeles. are joining us from sidney is david vale. the lead for data protection at the university of new south wales. allen's hub, good to have you with us. do you think this trial is going to

henry kissinger and george sholtes were sufficiently beguiled by homes as blandishments to join the company's board of directors. but it was all a fake. the blood testing machines, homes promise never worked. investigative journalists and prosecutors began poking holes in her claims. eventually the whole enterprise toppled like a house of cards. there are nos closed down in 2018. prosecutors argued holes performed fake demonstrations falsified reports and made misleading claims. the 37 year old holmes testified in her own defense blaming everything on her exboyfriend co defendant and former thera no executive ramesh ball lani. but in the end, unlike so many before the jury wasn't buying it, homes faces a maximum of 20 years in prison for each count. she is expected to appeal robert olds al jazeera los angeles. haiti's prime minister says he survived an assassination attempt, arial henry says it happened during national day celebrations over the weekend. his office says bandits and terrorists trying to shoot him. the church on re took office last july asked the president, chauffeur, then moiz

they have been in syria, the cold war, the book about henry kissinger -- he gets a taste for that, it's nothing particularly new. but we find ways to work with the russians where we can. but we have tremendous differences. that is something that is not going to change. we do not see any of our partners saying, you know what, we think the chinese will have our backs. not the americans. that's not where this is heading. >> although there is some hedging going on, the conventional wisdom in the region is that the u.s. is somehow de-prioritizing --. last question, we are actually out of time, but looking out into 2022, what is the single most important issue that keeps you up at night? is there one more than any other? >> i am inclined to give jim mattis' answer, it is our job to keep others up at night. but the security of our personnel -- i spend a lot of time in these areas, including in war zones. our men and women out there, that is something fundamental to us. i think our first reason in the morning, every morning, is making sure people have what they need to defend themselves and pro

henry kissinger said to me once, every time you solve a problem, every time you unlock the door to a problem, you nearly find yourself at a new door and a new challenge. every key unlocks the door and you think you have solved a problem and there's another one coming. i think chiron is the new -- iran is the new challenge. you tend to think of a as this annoying midsize power, but that is not the iranian view. they see themselves as an imperial power. they controlled the largest empire in human history on a pro cap at a basis. they see themselves as inheritors to an imperial tradition. they will continue to press across a vast area of land the runs from afghanistan to mediterranean. from the bottom of the arabian peninsula to the very top of the edges of turkey. they were a big, expansive country with imperial ambition in that zone and they complex -- rightly see themselves out of the west for all the reasons we know, they are aligning strongly with china and increasingly with russia. in the novel 2034, those three nations are working together. by the way, in the novel, the united st

you can't, as henry kissinger said, you can't be metternich in the political system because you don't have the same control over making policy. we are a democratic system. therefore, i think it's part of who we are -- as you said in an earlier very view, it goes back to the founding of our republic. when we were faced with do we support our allies, the french monarchy or those idea logic cli aligned with us, that's when it started. it's been with us for 230 years. i don't think it will go away. >> thank you for that michael. we look forward to the book. we'll have you back to talk about it when it's done. chris, let me ask you -- you're a technologist that understands cybersecurity, one of the paradoxes of our age is this wonderful gift of the wide open internet has turned out to help autocrats stabilizes their countries, suppress freedoms. it's produced greater disorder in democracy. it was supposed to work the other way around. i was wondering if you, as you think about it, see any ways to address that gross imbalance, that it empowers the bad guys and seems to hard the good guys. h

henry kissinger said to me once, every time you solve a problem, every time you unlock the door to a problem, you nearly find yourself at a new door and a new challenge. every key unlocks the door and you think you have solved a problem and there's another one coming. i think chiron is the new -- iran is the new challenge. you tend to think of a as this annoying midsize power, but that is not the iranian view. they see themselves as an imperial power. they controlled the largest empire in human history on a pro cap at a basis. they see themselves as inheritors to an imperial tradition. they will continue to press across a vast area of land the runs from afghanistan to mediterranean. from the bottom of the arabian peninsula to the very top of the edges of turkey. they were a big, expansive country with imperial ambition in that zone and they complex -- rightly see themselves out of the west for all the reasons we know, they are aligning strongly with china and increasingly with russia. in the novel 2034, those three nations are working together. by the way, in the novel, the united st

because that is the next big challenge and henry kissinger said to me once you know, every time you solve problem, every time you unlock the door to a problem, you find yourself in a new door and a new problem and a new challenge. every key unlocks the door. i think iran is the next one coming. our challenge here in the united states is we tend to think of iran as a kind of annoying midsized power. i assure you that is not to the self view. they see themselves as an imperial power. a 2500 years ago, they controlled the largest empire on a per capita basis. they see themselves as inheritors of an imperial tradition and they are going to continue to press across a vast area of land from afghanistan to the mediterranean. and from the bottom of the peninsula to the very top of the euphrates and up. there is a big powerful expansion with imperial ambitionsia at least and they correctly see they are shut out of the west for all the reasons we know and so they are alignina very strongly with china and increasingly with russia. and in the novel, 2034, those nations are working together. and by th

he represents former secretary of state henry kissinger who recommended that he invest and he invested almost $6 million. these were people that are respected in this country, that look to see what is real, what is not, and elizabeth holmes through talking with them, they believed her. >> and now she's convicted of fraud. >> yeah, remarkable case. jean, thank you very much. >>> still ahead, drivers, if you can believe it, still stuck on a 48-mile stretch of highway in virginia. though you can see a little bit of traffic moving there in live pictures. some of the drivers spent 19 hours in the cold on the road. how soon there could be relief in northern virginia, that's coming up. amin c, d and zinc* season after season. ace your immune support with centrum. now with a new look! - family. - family. - family. - family is everything. - [girl 1] family is with us through all of life's great moments. - bye, bye! - [girl 2] family is who we count on, inner greatest time of need because they're always by your side when we need them the most. - and for the past 100 years, shriners hospitals for

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among them, former secretaries of state henry kissinger and george schultz.cretary betsy devos. and media typhoon rupert murdoch. >> she was on the cover of magazines as the next steve jobs. she claimed to have revolutionized blood testing. >> reporter: but the prosecution proved otherwise. and they're hoping to do it again in the trial of her long-time partner and coo of theranos, who is potentially facing decades in prison for the same charges. the trials were separated after holmes made bombshell accusations of sexual and emotional abuse against him. he's denied the allegations and pleaded not guilty to the federal wire fraud and conspiracy charges. in the meantime, the darling of silicon valley with a vision of the future now facing the consequences of her past. camilla bernal, cnn, los angeles. >>> up next, pediatric hospitalizations hitting a record high, even as generally hospitalizations aren't quite there. as omicron shatters more records. >>> and almost one year from the capitol attack, trump supporters are still in deep denial. >> january 6th attac

abroad you had henry kissinger flying to paris. back home in texas, former president lyndon b. shaped by signing the civil rights act and the voting rights act that effectively expanded our nation's democracy and made it more inclusive of people to vote and in the nation's capital on that very same day, the supreme court issued its landmark ruling on abortion rights in roe versus wade protecting a woman's constitutional right to choose. now here we are on this day almost five decades later voting and abortion rights front and center of our national debate but this time the result in 2022 could be very different than it was in 1973. activists are sounding alarm bells that this year's 49th anniversary of roe versus wade could be its last. let that sink in for a moment. the supreme court is currently considering whether to uphold a mississippi law that would bar almost all abortion after 15 weeks. that decision which is still months away from being released could gut the long held precedent and change abortion access in america as we know it. because right now 26 states are standi

talk to henry kissinger i go why you such a soccer fan he goes. well, i used to play in germany right before world war ii the jewish kids used to play against the non-jewish kids, and i was really good. and in fact, i had a chance to to do something, but i had to get out of there because of what was happening in germany, but i but i have a passion for that game ever since that's a pretty good story. and i thought why did i play? didn't do anything division two soccer player in front of playing in front of 12 people. why did kissinger play? why did the rock play he wanted to go pro rock wanted to go pro all his friends university of miami dual one pro. he got cut in the cfl. he's living in his parents' basement married and said what a loser. i turned out to be but it set him up for life because life is not easy. we all have goals. we want to get that house. we want to get that girl that guy we want to get that car. you want to get that job and it doesn't happen sports. i would say there's a slice of life which brought me to these two books the game

fraud against daniel moseley, who was an attorney who was introduced to the company by his client henry kissinger, who is on the board but she's acquitted on the counts of defrauding theranos patients so, again, a mixed verdict and unable to reach a verdict on three of the counts of wire fraud. it will now be up to the government to decide if they're going to retry her on those counts of wire fraud and really where they go from here. it is certainly a partial victory for the government elizabeth holmes can still face 20 years in prison just on the wire fraud counts but we will see where it goes from here. the then sequel to this is a trial expected to begin in february of sunny ba wanny, the chief operating officer, somebody who elizabeth holmes blamed for a lot of the problems at the blood testing company, also her former boyfriend. so this complicates the government's strategy in that case as well we're continuing to evaluate this our producer in the courtroom says that the atmosphere was tense as the verdicts were read. the 1jurors did not make eye contact with holmes, as she sat upright throu

particularly one promising such huge returns and had such illustrious people associated with it like henry kissingerrge shuttles, it was not that much o of a stretch. what is remarkable that the trial showed was how little diligence and investigation some of these companies and investors made before they put their money in and formed alliances with theranos. >> reporter: i cannot think of the last time a silicon valley executive this high up was found guilty of criminal fraud. why holmes? was this really a one-off or did this case open a window into a wider problem within tech startups? >> elizabeth holmes and theranos were quite different than most startups. they weren't tech, it was a medical device company, a highly regulated space, they were building things, a physical device. all those things made the value proposition quite different and made the evidence of fraud much easier to accumulate and to prove. that doesn't mean that there aren't some really important lessons here for the startup world in terms of the enthusiasm about young college dropouts, relatively inexperienced, giving them a lot

. >> well, look, i mean, we can name the list, henry kissinger was involved, jim mad dis was involvedsome extent you could argue was taken by her, the former ceo of wells fargo on the board of this company. when you look at this i think there's no way to say she lost. i hope it is a deterrent in the future to other would be entrepreneurs playing this fake it until you make it game. when you look at this -- the charges that she was convicted of, she defrauded the investor. the reason why, i think, and i don't want to sympathize with her in this case, why she wasn't convicted on the other side and we have to get some interviews with the jurors, is that they were in many cases using other devices to analyze that blood, in some cases it wasn't working properly, but nonetheless the intent is it becomes a lot more complicated. clearly she meant to defraud the investing class, she did it on the front pages of newspapers, she did it on the front pages of magazines, she did it at conferences as you just described and the real question, i think, is going to be five, 10, 15 years from now do we

henry kissinger. and george sholtes were sufficiently beguiled by homes as blandishments to join the company's board of directors. but it was all a fake. the blood testing machines, homes promise never worked. investigative journalists and prosecutors began poking holes in her claims. eventually the whole enterprise toppled like a house of cards. there are nos closed down in 2018. prosecutors argued holes performed fake demonstrations falsified reports and made misleading claims. the 37 year old homes testified in her own defense, blaming everything on her ex boyfriend, co, defendant and former thoroughness executive, ramesh, bonnie. but in the end, unlike so many before the jury wasn't buying it, homes faces a maximum of 20 years in prison for each count. she is expected to appeal prob reynolds al jazeera los angeles. still to come here on al jazeera big infrastructure projects are being block was in bosnia herzegovina will tell you who's behind the hold up and beaches in gone at reopened to the 1st

and colleague ambassador martin indict for a talk about his new book called master of the game henry kissinger and the art of middle east diplomacy. i exhibited here and encourage you all to read it. i've been reading it all of last week and taking copious notes and very eager t

. >> henry kissinger and bill frisk and george shoults.the board of directors a the time this is going on. part of her strategies and interviews and trials or whatever was to make sure he was surrounded by people that may be had the newcomer, she did not. george schultz's grandson was one of the whistleblower to help holmes convicted. >> you mentioned john kerry. the product itself was the center of the fraud. she went out and raised all these money saying i have got this machine that can quickly and easily and diagnose just about anything with a pick of a pen to take your blood and diagnose whatever you may have the the future or what you have now. sos how did she get away with it for so long before these art ls started coming out. >> the drop out is amazing by rebecca jarvis. >> yes, incredible. >> how she did that, that's a good question. >> here is how it worked. you are supposed to take a small jab of your finger and her machine will be able to analyze up to a hundred different things and you may get a bigger vile of blood verses one

a con artist, from day one, and -- very famous individuals on her board george schiltz, even henry kissinger wonder what you think again, it was nobody could sniff out for years this con artist. >> right, she also had general maddis onboard, perry, i think people wanted the story to be so true that they suspended disbelief if you look at rise of theranos when holmes dropped out of stanford started the project, are you had very few women in sort of big, important tech leading the companies, same with biomedicine instead of large amounts of blood dwlaun cholesterol or more extensive blood testing a couple drops from pinprick in a machine would give accurate results didn't happen you mentioned celebrity board those are people highly accomplished various fields of government, business, and government but had little ability to sort of assess whether what they were being told was incorrect, and you know didn't ask the tough questions it was uncovered by the "the wall street journal." >> i point that out ryan, this i was reading some, you know there is a lot of analysis, out there, about after this