unlike the lawsuits of henry korn. we are not hard copy or fuddy- duddy. we're not fuddy-duddy. as a matter of fact, we're far from it. we are pretty good looking. by cincinnati standards, we are great looking good and you know what else? i may be 60 and i may be short, but i am damn hot. ijssel, in fact. you heard me. win thisoing to contest. i want to get the news out there. the law office of harry corn, sexy -- we are hit and we are hot. tavis: if you cannot sell it, nobody is going to buy it. >> and therein lies our problem. we get a pretty respectable number on the show, but our demo is not so hot. kathy is doing her part to put the word out. tavis: tell me more about that challenge. this is the back story on how tv works and why you see shows moving from one to another night. people do not often understand. >> it is all about the 18-49 number. if you fall outside that, you really do not exist. we have a great following, fortunately. most of them are over 50. it does not make sense to me because this is all dictated by madison avenue who are trying to find choppers, obvious