people used to always say to me when i talk about henry kotten, it couldn't happen now. well, it would not happen exactly that way, but it could happen. you could have some damaging remedy take hold and then be out of control and hard to stop. and you see figures like michael pullen, for example, who has become a cult figure because of his very interesting writings on the food chain, now touting this -- it sounds like timothy leary reborn. and it is very dangerous. i do worry about exactly those developments very much so. >> do you have any idea compares to canada or europe with regard to the treatment of the mentally ill? and so forth? especially with socialized medicine, are they worse off than us? better than us? >> i am most familiar with the english situation. i know little bit about things in europe and i was just there. homelessness was somewhat less visible in london in the last time i visited and i was a little surprise. out of the blue, a british psychiatrist i know who's is a member of the house of lords, elaine murphy, wrote to me and said, you know, one of t