. >>> and later, noted historian and film maker, henry louis gates joins me to talk about his highly anticipated new pbs series, making black america. we begin with the global resurgence of fascism. brazil held the first round of the election. bolsonaro emerged in second place, five points behind the front runner, leftist former president, dela silva. because no candidate received 50% of the vote, brazil's elections are headed to a runoff at the end of the month. according to the associated press, de la silva had 48% of the vote, and president bolsonaro had 43%. bolsonaro outperformed the polls. bolsonaro like the former american president claimed that the election was rigged. unsurprisingly, like trump, bolsonaro has openly praised dictators, paying homage to the 1964 political coup that resulted in roughly 20,000 people in his country being tortured. a former army captain has used the military as a prop during his recently attacks against the supreme court and other institutions, openly flirting with the idea of a coup of his own. his language much like trump's has increasingly div

henry louis gates jr.tor of the hutchens center for african american research at harvard university. welcome back to the show. it's great to have you. who will we see and what will we learn in this four-part series? >> good morning. it's great to be back. what did black people do when the color curtain came crashing down? you look at a lot of hollywood movies, standard accounts are that all we did was complain and fight back. of course, we did fight back politically. just as importantly, we replicated the social world from which we were excluded by racists. if there was a white version of an organization which we were prevented from joining, what did we do? we formed a black version. whether it was the american medical association, american dental association, american law association, which excluded black people. we formed the national dental association, the national bar association. that was important to refuse to allow your oppressor to define your entire existence. so our people did, just like our jew

point, those reports also identify many of the people surveyed said that they really shows like henry louis gates is, you know, genealogical show, you know, and the history detective, things like that, exactly what you're talking about. and at my museum, at the national museum of african american history and culture, we just created a digital humanities called the searchable museum. that platform, we have a feature called how we know what we know, because we knew people would say, well, you know, where did you get what's the source and how did you figure this out? so the other is we wanted people to understand the methodology that goes into this work. so under how we know what we know, we include oral history, we include genealogy, we include archeology both both terrestrial maritime. we include statistical data databases, and we include so much more of the archival records. and just to help people understand how these sources help us authenticate this history and also hope to excite the learning young people that might want to get into those fields, young and old. and i so, you know, marcelo, i'